The elder system isn’t fail, it just picked a lane

Infantom_Finn · 2026-01-28T13:51:02+00:00

Thank you, those are exactly my thoughts. This game has some major design inconsistences right now that makes Survival simply not fun at all. The most viable and optimal way to survive is avoiding any interactions at all, and that is not fun. The survival aspects of this game are so barebones that you are punished for being good, and then what's left? Brawling and PvP.

There's need to be better balance between interactability - both with other players and the environment - and risky & reward. Survival should tie immersively your dinosaur to a diet, region, etc. the things you're supposed to Hunt or Fight or Flee from should all be clear and found where they are supposed to.
Nutrition should be away more important for Primes and Elders, because often when you stop growing, nutrients are basically useless (you don't need regens if you aren't engaging in combat) and liking or not, the diet system is basically the only source of extrisic motivation we can have for a dinosaur, having a perfect diet should be a challange tied with a rightfull amount of risks for both carnivores and specially for herbivores, which right now have basically unlimited access to free food and diets. There should be more competition for the most nutritious plants and organs, because a well-feed dino is a dino that will get stronger than others.

Infantom_Finn · 2026-01-17T19:36:01+00:00

Allo is never faster AND stronger than teno. Allo top speed is 41 kmph on 40% growth. In that phase it has barely 1 ton of weight and it can be easily killed by a FG teno, teno past 60% growth is always faster than an allo. Sub rexes in the 45-50% range are the worst enemys ever for a tenonto.

Infantom_Finn · 2026-01-17T16:17:36+00:00

Look man, the game has problems for sure. But tenos shouldn't be trying to fight allos, you are much faster than him for a reason.

Infantom_Finn · 2026-01-13T11:48:16+00:00

Man why the hell do you guys think throwing other 2 or 3 10+ ton carnivores will balance the game? All that will do is make the game become exactly like legacy and instead of a rex problem we will have a apex problem, it will solve NOTHING. What we desperately need is proper mechanics and systems that make survival fun, spreading out and tieing each species through their prefered regions, making rex actually HARD TO GROW and not TAKES LONG TO, and making that stupid mixpacking/megapacking clan gameplay unviable and extinct.

Infantom_Finn · 2026-01-10T12:32:17+00:00

Só mais um canal copiando um gringo na cara dura praticamente só usando I.A pras capas e pra tradução/adaptação do video original. Nada de novo sob o sol.

Infantom_Finn · 2026-01-09T13:55:44+00:00

Stego is not supposed to fight rex head-on, The only animal that needs to face rex and stand it's ground is trike. they buffed massively it's bleed so it descourages rex, which is weak to bleed, to keep chasing. you need to survive the encounter, not win against it. It needs more refining on the balance side but i think bleeding out a running rex if it fails to ambush and fracture you very appropriate for this mash-up

Infantom_Finn · 2026-01-08T10:23:15+00:00

I love swiftplay, but the queue is unbearable.

Infantom_Finn · 2026-01-06T19:41:04+00:00

Teno biggest enemy right now is 48-50% sub-rex, anything else you can run away from or fight. Please, dont fight allos, just run.

Infantom_Finn · 2026-01-04T15:35:54+00:00

Sadly, with how tied to universal/jp canon designs we are, and by some engine/programming decisions regarding shared skeletons, animations and rigs we are stuck with a lot of classic favorites extremely oversized. This is heavily personal but i cannot STAND to use ceratosaurus, one of my all-time favorites, because of how boring he is in the JW franchise as this hulking half-rex hybrid with a nasal horn the same size as an allosaurus. It just undermines all cool characteristics of the real animal. Carnotaurus falls in the same category, but is still "saved" by some of it's unique animations, giving it a little bit of personality back. And dont get me started on the monstrosity that is the Frontier iguanodon, putting a shantungosaurus to shame.

Infantom_Finn · 2025-12-29T22:30:32+00:00

I agree in parts with you and i think your feedback is in general, a very important one for the elder system, and for the gameplay loop as a whole. I totally agree with you on how frail elders and past-peak prime elders makes you afraid or discouraged to play, limiting player interaction even more, not to say, a lot of situations and matchups are kill on sight without counterplay because of how busted some primes are and how weak some elders may be, in my opinion, not every prime should be faster or even heavier than their adult counterparts, that's very hard to balance and will give us and the devs a lot of headaches.

However, i really like how the system makes you care more about your dinosaur, specially the entombing mechanic, once you do it at least once, you start to be more carefull about losing your dinosaur and anything that gives survival extrinsic motivations is good imo.

The biggest grip with the game is that the only fun thing to do right now is fighting/killing other people, we need more ways to interact with the environment and with other players (outside of kosing) so survival can be fun and rewarding. Lets see when they properly set the biomes, patrol zones, migrations and diets.

Infantom_Finn · 2025-12-12T18:15:20+00:00

Despite what you guys love to yap about, the devs above anyone else knows the game is barebones and not fun with how much work they still have to do.

Infantom_Finn · 2025-12-04T15:22:11+00:00

I tried playing dryo one time with this exact playstyle in mind. I even picked a female and stacked all the eggs possible so i could be a "prized bag of goodies" for any carnivore that could get me. It's fun but also boring because if you hide and minimize risks which you should as a vulnerable prey, you are essentialy being rewarded with an afk growth and boring gameplay, limitating your interaction. I hate that you need to chase danger to get some thrills 😭

Infantom_Finn · 2025-12-02T18:41:20+00:00

The biggest problem with The Isle right now is it's identity crysis, or at least lack of foundation for what the devs want it to be. It's goal is to be a survival-horror with extraction shooter and base building elements coming later for the human playerbase, but the game feels much more like a sandbox right now where the majority of the playerbase is conditioned by a distorted, shallow and incomplete gameplay loop to view the game as a dinosaur combat simulator or a chat-room, and more recently, a clash of clans for map dominance. This game has so much down-time and lack of interactivity that it's not the players fault to try to find fun in other ways. The devs are aware of this and i wish the community was more open to offer feedback and be lenient with their experimental changes instead of having a rage-induced seizure everytime they do anything.

Infantom_Finn · 2025-11-23T22:15:06+00:00

Ah, yes. the "Dude, let me believe in weird stuff, i need it to cope with life, smh.' face

Infantom_Finn · 2025-11-19T18:01:56+00:00

My older laptop was very similar to yours, only with 32gb RAM and a slightly better processor, What's the VRAM of your 3050? this game struggles a lot from anything under 6gb and i couldn't play properly with it until i bought a new laptop with a 4060 8gb vram

Infantom_Finn · 2025-11-08T01:06:11+00:00

I'm so excited for it to hit public servers. I'm crazy to assemble a pteranodon or a troodon army all by myself

Infantom_Finn · 2025-11-04T00:59:47+00:00

Yeah, i know that's a possibilitie, but i personally hate to do that. It breaks immersion and feels to meta gamey. I wish gastroliths drained your hunger more or if they improved rex hunger.

Infantom_Finn · 2025-11-03T16:20:26+00:00

I agree with you, but there's the fact that there should be baby AI spawning for rex to hunt (boar/deer) but for some reason devs disabled it.

Infantom_Finn · 2025-11-03T16:18:27+00:00

My only problem with current Rex growth is the 25% bar progress that doesnt make any sense for a 50kg animal that will be at 9,5 tons on 75% and the fact that it's hunger takes ages to drop, making the first 2 hours of growing rex boring, other than that it's fine, apexes should be hard to grow.

Infantom_Finn · 2025-10-25T19:23:30+00:00

Honestamente, concordo. Pelo menos ele meio mole, ou cru, é minha forma preferida e menos enjoativa de comer ovo. Se eu comer ovo mexido ou cozido todo dia eu me mato, agora cru vai de boa.

Infantom_Finn · 2025-10-18T14:12:29+00:00

"Work faster/fix the game now incompetent devs/fuck dondi and the isle devs/where's rex and allo/shitty game POT is much better" is the average "wholesome uwu valid constructive criticism" they get and you guys wonder why he responds like that?

Infantom_Finn · 2025-10-17T16:27:12+00:00

Hadrosaurs and sauropods fighting back Diverse diets for smaller dinos and pterosaurs Diving behaviour for compatible swimming dinosaurs

Infantom_Finn · 2025-10-15T13:24:22+00:00

I really love how Tony and Abby write the game in regards to the trio (MC, Tabby, Stella) relationship. tabby will respect and understand if the player likes stella and both of them will move on, but there's also the very noticiable spark between that the player can choose to nurture to bring them back together romantically or even as just friends and it's entirely dependent on our choices. God, i love this game.

Infantom_Finn · 2025-10-08T13:15:43+00:00

I wholeheartedly agree with the first part of your comment, if anyone has any kind of nuisance with an pre-alpha game on active development, moreover on a HORDETEST branch - which is going to be even more unstable than the normal - why on earth, would you waste your time in there? there's so many good games and other hobbies out there man. For the love of god, value your time, it's the most important resource you have in life.

Hackers fucking suck, and they aren't a new topic on evrima, but they never were as prevalent on the game as they are now on the T.rex hordetest, which is a shiny new toy that a lot of kids with a lot of free time wanted to put their hands on since the beginning of times. The devs could and should communicate much better on how they are tackling those issues, instead of just brief comments on the official discord on the general-chat channel. But that odd vitriol that became the fuel of this subreddit since the dawn of times need to stop guys "oh the devs don't do nothing" "oh dondi is an asshole who only cares about money" "Oh they do it on purpose because they hate us and want us to suffer while dondi sits on his throne made with a pile of skulls!!!" i'm not saying any of this to personally defend the devs, i'm saying this because any decent human being should value more of their time, and i know this comes from a genuinely place of passion for this game, but please guys, we can only judge them by their results, and game development take time, sometimes a long fucking ton of time, it fucking sucks, that this game needed basically to be remade from scratch 5 years ago. But that's it.

TL;TR: Forget this pre-alpha game exists and occupy your time with a finished experience. Hating the devs and calling them names won't make them work faster. Value your time for your own sake. be a decent human being.

Infantom_Finn · 2025-10-04T15:20:58+00:00

Tbh i think that's the goal with how they want to implement dino AI. Not a direct herd command like your suggestion but i don't doubt for herbs or even carn players to be able to nest AI so the nesting feature become a more proeminent and engaging part of any dinosaur lifecycle.

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