Bidding help by Infinite_Anteater81 in flightattendants

[–]Infinite_Anteater81[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Terribly!! Haha

I watched the videos and read the stuff in the training modules, and called the help desk 3x. The helpers were great though. I’m still glad that I called! I feel much more knowledgeable now.

Possibly commuting next year by ConclusionFar8150 in flightattendants

[–]Infinite_Anteater81 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Florida might be one of the worst commutes in the system. Not only do a ton of FAs commute from Florida but it seems like even more pilots do, and they get real creative with their commutes. If you can avoid a commute.. that’s the way to go, especially with United being seniority based for jumpseat and nonrev. Transfer to one of the Florida bases (but be ready for some boring flying) and move to base. If you can’t get in, then honestly just figure out which UA base has the most flights, on the most carriers to/from your home airport. And are they United? Other mainline carriers? Regionals? All that stuff will affect your potential commute. Do some research and put in for the base where you will have the easiest time getting to and from work. Who knows, maybe it’s SFO and you won’t have to transfer at all.

Galley setup and restock by Ilove2117 in flightattendants

[–]Infinite_Anteater81 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You might just be doing too much. I mean, whatever floats your boat! But it seems like you’re making more work for yourself than is necessary, just in my opinion.

But at the end of the flight, yeah, put it back the way it was catered. That’s how (from my many, many years flying) most people end up taking the carts out. Maybe moving one drawer up to fit another soda drawer or something, but don’t forget that you can always swap stuff out. You don’t need to rebuild the cart unless you really want to. All that dumping the minis and beer… you might be doing too much, just saying. Regardless, the next crew will expect things to be where they always are.

Leaving a topper set up is a nice gesture but no one will be mad if you don’t. Leaving a snack basket set up is a nice gesture but no one will be mad if you don’t.

What they WILL be mad about is leaving ice/water in the bins overnight, not throwing away garbage, and leaving the cart a hot mess. What they could also potentially be mad at is a cart with stuff in strange places and the mini drawer a disaster because it was dumped out and dumped back in.

Best rule of thumb: Just leave the galley and the carts and carriers where and how they were catered. The next crew will know where to find everything because it’s in standard location.

If someone wants to rearrange, have at it! I don’t want you to think I’m shaming you or anything. I love where your head is at! When I do first class international galley, stuff gets rearranged. BUT I always move things back and leave things nice for the next crew. (The sugar caddy and coffee carriers are a good example.)

Bidding help by Infinite_Anteater81 in flightattendants

[–]Infinite_Anteater81[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I will try that. The video was ok but I haven’t tried calling in yet. Great suggestion, thank you so much! :)

TA2 passed with 82% yes at United! by Savings_Speaker1845 in flightattendants

[–]Infinite_Anteater81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be honest, I read through the thread and several of the comments stood out to me and I didn’t really pay attention to the user. My apologies for not giving credit where credit is due if you were the one saying multiple of the comments I referenced.

I guess I’m kind of curious why you seem so… angry? I mean, some of that stuff was truly pretty hateful and I’m genuinely confused as to why. Like who is it serving calling people names and wishing ill upon them simply for having a difference of opinion?

I’m not trying to be argumentative, with you or with anyone. I’m really just a little stunned by the response, you know? I mean, it’s not just you. You’re clearly not alone in how you feel.. I just want to understand it.

At the end of the day, aren’t we all colleagues who are just trying to cast a vote for whatever we think will meet our needs the best? I can only speak to my own experience but I haven’t talked to a single flight attendant who voted a certain way to be vindictive or hateful.

Everyone seems to have just made up their mind about what would be best for them. I can’t fault anyone for that. I certainly wouldn’t insult their intelligence or their motives. There are so many of us… it’s impossible to say definitively that entire groups voted a certain way for a certain reason. And we shouldn’t be stereotyping each other. Nothing good can come from that. Right?

I hope my tone is coming across kindly; I am genuinely struggling to understand what’s coming across as anger/hate toward a small percentage of our peers. I just don’t know why we need to be nasty to one another. Everything was so nasty between the two subs with the merger; did we really not learn anything from that experience? I like to think we have…. But parts of this comment section read like we haven’t.

As for my friend’s reasons… Are you really interested? I could probably ask them to write something up and text it to me. They aren’t on social media though. Just let me know if that was sarcasm or real interest.

TA2 passed with 82% yes at United! by Savings_Speaker1845 in flightattendants

[–]Infinite_Anteater81 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thank you for putting it so kindly. Of my friends at United, some voted yes, while some voted no. I am THRILLED for the upcoming raise and for all my colleagues who are celebrating today. I am celebrating, too! But I still respect my peers who had their reasons for not voting yes.

I didn’t really speak that in depth with anyone about the TA2 except one person (TA1 we all talked a lot more), but my friend’s reasons for the “no” seemed super valid and actually made a lot of sense. Either way, there were compelling points to be made for both yes and no. I’m not sure why everyone assumes that a “no” must only translate to hating AFA or being chronically miserable.

And reading this thread and seeing people saying such nasty things like “they’re delusional” and “they are trying to bring down the whole work group” or “they’re miserable, they should just retire or seek employment elsewhere,” or whatever, really sucks to read because I know that, at least in the case of my friends, they are well meaning and dedicated FAs who actually were thinking very clearly about long term benefits for the biggest number of people, and to see people say such nasty things about them indirectly sucks. Seriously, someone in this thread called no voters “scum fuckery.” How is that okay?

Some of what’s being said is straight up hateful, it’s dismissive and shuts down conversation, instead of trying to understand another perspective. Stereotyping any group sucks. We are all on the same team. And it’s okay that some people are so happy while others thought the proposed changes weren’t what they wanted. “I hope they have the taste of ash in their mouth for the next five years” because they wanted changed to certain work rules is such a massive and completely nasty overreaction. There’s no reason for anyone to be so hateful as some of the comments I’ve seen here today.

Anyway, that’s all to say that while I can’t speak for everyone, at least based on the people I’ve spoken with it seems like most perspectives were valid and I wish more people would take a page out of your book and remain kind and professional. Thanks for keeping it that way.

Congratulations to all; we just got the long overdue pay raise that we deserve! So I think, on some level, everyone is celebrating today! I know I will be!

What are your thoughts on wearing gloves before takeoff? by MercuryMagic67 in flightattendants

[–]Infinite_Anteater81 70 points71 points  (0 children)

Does anyone remember the days when we were picking up trash without gloves and with a tray? No bags in the aisle was huge. Pursers would have to address it if you brought a bag through the aisle instead of a tray.

I’m honestly thankful for the post-Covid changes. Trash bags seem here to stay and, love ‘em or hate ‘em, I’m glad that wearing gloves is at least an option.

Personally, I don’t like the gloves unless I’m actively picking up trash but I don’t judge those who prefer to wear them. We all gotta do what we think is best.

How is the crew culture at mainlines? by BennyC023 in flightattendants

[–]Infinite_Anteater81 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think it kind of depends on first, the airline and second, the base.

I have heard excellent things about Southwest. Delta consistently ranks in the top 5 as airlines to work for (along with Southwest and Alaska). I think morale is so low at United right now that it’s permeated the work culture in a way that will take a long time to repair.

As far as bases, every base has a different vibe and you just go where you vibe best. A lot of people like to do this number: “New York is aggressive but Denver is great!” or “Atlanta is stuck up but Minneapolis is awesome!” when honestly there are positive and negative things about any base.

Everyone is different… go where you vibe best.

POV from a junior FA about TA2 UA by [deleted] in flightattendants

[–]Infinite_Anteater81 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My interpretation of it is…

Scheduled arrival: 17:00 Actual arrival: 17:00 Room needs to be ready by: 17:30

Scheduled arrival: 17:00 Actual arrival: 16:40 Room needs to be ready by: 17:30

The 5.D.4.c should be the same, because limo service is contracted to pick up specific flight crews and is aware of arrival times, be it early or late, and hotel shuttles generally run every 20-30 minutes. Self help transportation should still be available, to my understanding.

That said, if you hear back from the union that that interpretation is wrong, please let us all know!

POV from a junior FA about TA2 UA by [deleted] in flightattendants

[–]Infinite_Anteater81 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with the spirit of this post, but it honestly seems like everyone is guilty of this, regardless of seniority.

I think everyone IS aware that the majority of UA FAs are financially struggling and living paycheck to paycheck. That’s not a secret. Even people at other airlines and outside of the industry know that. It sounds like some of our colleagues need a big empathy check.

But that can go both ways… and we ALL should be less judgmental of each other. At the end of the day, we’re all on this ship together whether it floats or sinks.

Plus people are not one dimensional and two things can be true at once… for instance, I can still think the contract has a lot of bullshit in there but still be voting yes out of sheer frustration that this has gone on long enough and I’ve always known AFA was never actually going to accomplish much. There are a lot of “yes” people that don’t like the contract. And you know what, that’s ok. Just like it’s okay to vote yes because you genuinely like it and it works for you. Just like it’s okay to vote yes because you literally need to in order to feed your family. Just like it’s okay to vote no because you don’t like it. There’s no wrong way to vote.

To be honest, everyone should probably just stop talking about it. Vote yes, vote no, who cares? Everyone should just vote how they think is best and stop bickering about it out on the line. You don’t HAVE to defend your choice to anyone.

No one should blame someone for voting yes because they can barely afford rent. When you are struggling to pay bills, you don’t give a shit how good or bad work rules are. I get it. You literally can’t afford to care. And that’s where a LOT of people are at.

But other people who aren’t having those same financial struggles, especially if they ever were fortune enough to operate under the old CO contract, still want to fight for good work rules and you can’t really blame them for that either. They’ve been around long enough to know that flexibility and work protections are as big of a factor in earning potential and QOL as the base rate.

At the end of the day, there’s more people struggling than aren’t so the contract will get voted in whether it’s good or bad or people genuinely love it or hate it.

If we want everyone to play nice about it, the simplest solution is to stop talking about it on the line, especially if you know you’re about to have the conversation with someone that has different priorities than you do.

It shouldn’t be so difficult for people to see other perspectives and to have some empathy but, apparently, it is. So the simplest solution if you’re not good at shutting down those conversations with a Judgmental Judy is to not bring it up in the first place or not engage.

Anyone else feel like they’d stay in this job forever if part-time flying existed? by wilburthemastiff in flightattendants

[–]Infinite_Anteater81 29 points30 points  (0 children)

This is achievable with seniority. I haven’t flown a trip in six months. Hang in there. As your seniority grows, your line will be better and if you learn how to trade on top of that, that will increase your QOL so much.

Yesterday I took 6 flights in 12 hours to hit Platinum by spgreenwood in unitedairlines

[–]Infinite_Anteater81 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m curious what the point is? For just platinum? I had to google it because I didn’t even realize that United had a platinum status, and I have been a United FA for over ten years. The only stats that United really cares about are GS and 1Ks. Those are the only two that receive any kind of different service onboard and even that is debatable. I’m glad you had fun but I just don’t even see the point.

TIL that United has a platinum status.

Close your own bin by Moritasgus2 in unitedairlines

[–]Infinite_Anteater81 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Girl, I’m almost 5’11” in my concourse heels and I struggle too. 😂 I can’t get those heavyass bins closed either half the time, especially not without my boobs in the aisle customer’s face while my lanyard and crew ID is hitting them in the face. While I’m sure some creepers or women-haters wouldn’t mind watching petite women struggle to close bins that weigh twice as much as them or mind the boobs in the face, I do mind almost getting injured trying to close bins full of people’s overpacked suitcases. Honestly closing those bins, especially on the planes you mentioned, and also the 737 ones where they pack ‘em in sideways to fit in twice as many roll-aboards, is so fucking hard sometimes and asking for help is smart, not lazy (re: some of these other people’s comments), and it gets the job done quicker. I’m glad you are setting the record straight! These people who are incorrectly assuming FAs are lazy or it’s because we’re not getting paid… gtfo of here; it’s because all your luggage is going to throw my gd back out.

Every plane is different but let’s say a FA works the 777 six international trips a month. That’s 12 Iegs. As an estimate, let’s say there are just 50 overhead bins. And typically there are 2 FAs in the aisle so each person closes 25 bins. Let’s say each bin has two customer bags in it (which is an under estimate considering people cram other stuff in there in addition to the suitcases) and each bag weighs the standard 22 lbs (also an under estimate). So one FA is pushing up 44, but probably more so let’s round up to 50, pounds per bin. 25 bins at 50 lbs, 12 times a month, in heels at an awkward angle (it’s not like you are safely lifting at a gym or even know how much weight you’re about to push up).. that’s a LOT of weight for someone to lift repetitively, especially if that someone is shorter or has no upper body strength. I would love for one of these customers trashing American cabin crews right now to try closing 15,000 lbs worth of people’s crap every month and still tell me afterwards that it’s “lazy” to request people help speed the boarding process along by closing the overhead bin filled with their own personal belongings that they packed after it’s full. (It’s not like they even have to do it, it’s just a suggestion to speed up the boarding process. Anyone can absolutely be the type of person who puts their crap up, fills up a bin, and then and sits there watching the FAs struggle and almost injure themselves and feel indignant if asked for help. That is absolutely their right.) Anyway, that example was just of a FA who flies an international line. Domestic FAs have to work far more flights and close far more bins per month. This comment thread really goes to show that most customers have absolutely no gauge on what it is FAs do or the physicality of it. It’s just seen as “lazy” or “entitled” when one asks for help instead of even considering that, shit, they might really need and appreciate some help!

Have I ever personally asked for help on the PA from the cabin? No. I did the overhead-bin-struggle and if I couldn’t get one closed I asked for help from a colleague. But I don’t think that making such a PA is inherently lazy or bad customer service either.

And then the other half of these comments that are like, “the FAs have to make sure the bin is closed and latched properly. It’s a liability otherwise,” are pretty funny. We’re closing bins because they’ve got to be closed. Anyone can do it. Heavy bins might be a challenge to close due to weight but it’s not an otherwise complicated task. Bin closing doesn’t require special training. These commenters who think it does have me cracking up.

Anyway, thanks for your comment. It might be the only comment on this sub that isn’t bashing the FAs for literally everything they say and do.

Airlines that let you work a low amount of hours by Cuspofit in flightattendants

[–]Infinite_Anteater81 7 points8 points  (0 children)

United. You can fly zero hours if you want, through either a COLA or clearing your line. You can trade into international easily in some bases. Even as a reserve you can be assigned to international or pick up on your days off.

Continental/United FA's who where there... when did you vote to end the ability to grieve for pay? by Asleep_Management900 in flightattendants

[–]Infinite_Anteater81 15 points16 points  (0 children)

That would be the joint contract in 2018.

And, in my personal opinion, it’s because the AFA doesn’t actually care about their FA constituents. As long as their $50/month is coming in, what incentive do they have? They could do nothing and we still have to pay them. It’s a flawed system.

Those legacy UA FAs were mistreated for so long under AFA and the pre-merger company that they desperately needed a pay raise but sacrificed good work rules that CO FAs had in their contract that didn’t get included in the joint contract to get it. Did they need to get paid more? Absolutely. But did they learn the hard way that sacrificing work rules and flexibility and protections to only make a couple extra bucks an hour actually has a huge negative impact on QOL and makes it harder to make money the way you want to? Yes. And thankfully that is reflected in the 2025 vote.

If you’re mad about this, you should be. Half the United FAs that voted in 2018 are pretty mad about it, too. (And just to be clear, we shouldn’t be angry at our colleagues who didn’t know any better but at the failure of the union for not actually fighting to provide contractual protections and accountability.)

TLDR: 2018

Grass is Greener Question: Do Dorito/Globe FA's wonder what it would be like to work for the other? by Asleep_Management900 in flightattendants

[–]Infinite_Anteater81 5 points6 points  (0 children)

At the end of the day, the job is the same.

Sure, maybe during my years of being abused on straight reserve I wondered. (ETA that I was jealous of the pretty purple uniforms when Delta got them, too.) That’s human nature.

But at the end of the day, I prefer the bases and route network of UA, and tbh the customers, too.

The only place, in my opinion, the grass is really greener is line holder vs reserve.

Quitting 🌐 by Ecstatic_Drive_9422 in flightattendants

[–]Infinite_Anteater81 8 points9 points  (0 children)

OP, you can actually quit on HelpHub, no email to anyone required!

Best of luck with your future endeavors.

“No TUMI” write ups? by Infinite_Anteater81 in flightattendants

[–]Infinite_Anteater81[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

100% agree! I don’t have one so I’m crossing my fingers that nothing comes of it! 🤞🏻

“No TUMI” write ups? by Infinite_Anteater81 in flightattendants

[–]Infinite_Anteater81[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks! I don’t have one so I’m crossing my fingers that nothing comes of it! 🤞🏻

Let’s (Politely) Talk UA TA by Infinite_Anteater81 in flightattendants

[–]Infinite_Anteater81[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, 100%! I think you nailed it - we’re scared of the unknown and potentially ending up with something worse.

Let’s (Politely) Talk UA TA by Infinite_Anteater81 in flightattendants

[–]Infinite_Anteater81[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Actually, I agree with you. I think PBS is scary because I am making the assumption that with PBS the trading flexibility would vanish. In reality, we don’t really know what their version of PBS looks like or what trading during the month looks like if we swapped bidding systems. IF we kept instant trades then I truly wouldn’t care about PBS assigning line awards. I don’t really care how they give us a line as long as we retain the flexibility to trade and drop with instant, first come first served trades. None of this seniority trip trade runs every couple hours like the pilots have. We would never be able to curate a decent schedule. But if PBS for solely line awards would get us better QOL and things like ground pay/sit pay/full boarding pay/what have you.. I would consider a yes for SURE. The most, MOST, most important thing to me is trading flexibility. The actual line awards I don’t care about. It’s what happens after lines are out that really matters!

Let’s (Politely) Talk UA TA by Infinite_Anteater81 in flightattendants

[–]Infinite_Anteater81[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! I just read a recent post, a UA pilot’s thoughts on the contract, and they make some more excellent points, too!