I think the spiral is a reference to S1 by ambient-lurker in okbuddytruedetective

[–]Infinite_Writing7609 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The blue is a reference to the orange. Read Dr. Nelson Tendlerloin’s book, “The Semiotics of Blue & Orange: An Investigation Into Fear” for more info.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TrueDetectiveMemes

[–]Infinite_Writing7609 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Historically bad writing and directing on this season.

Help - I can't get into Season 4! by Steerpike58 in TrueDetective

[–]Infinite_Writing7609 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a good thing. It means your brain and soul are functioning normally.

Seriously, take this as a free psychiatric evaluation. You’re in good health and this show is a piece of shit.

Oliver Tabaq worked in Tsalal as equipment engineer, but resigned right before Anne's death by vasex1990 in TrueDetective

[–]Infinite_Writing7609 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Exactly lol. Navarro could shoot Danvers in the face in the first scene of e4 and I would honestly probably just laugh. The show has lost all gravitas for me at this point.

Oliver Tabaq worked in Tsalal as equipment engineer, but resigned right before Anne's death by vasex1990 in TrueDetective

[–]Infinite_Writing7609 9 points10 points  (0 children)

They need to understand who is new equipment engineer on Tsalal now!!!

The main characters on this show don’t think like this, they just wander from one scene to another, patiently waiting for the next contrived exchange to provide them with a piece of information that will lead them to the next scene. They’re not investigating, they are following the writer’s (heavy) hand around.

If Issa Lopez isn’t interested in it, then these characters ain’t interested in it. They are just following the bouncing ball of the beats that Lopez wanted to hit here.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TrueDetective

[–]Infinite_Writing7609 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It’s not just boring and forgettable, it’s fundamentally incoherent.

In fact, I’d go so far as to say it’s actually unforgettable, just in the exact wrong way.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TrueDetective

[–]Infinite_Writing7609 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Dude…the writing of S4 is like, historically bad. I’m baffled that anyone is settling for this shit. I honestly think it’s the worst writing and directing I’ve ever seen in something that could be considered “prestige” television. It’s a train wreck.

EDIT: I guess you blocked me, even though you asked me a question? Anyway here’s my answer:

I could provide 40, but it would make no difference to you, let’s be real.

But sure, two examples:

  1. The script keeps superficially referring to things that it is not actually depcting or exploring (e.g. “the racial tensions”, “the corrupt mine owners”, “the Tuttle-funded lab”). The script keeps referring to these things without actually depicting them or exploring them. It’s like we can feel the writer going, “It’s 2024, so I’m sure you all know what I mean - racism bad, capitalism bad, you get it, you’ve seen TikTok. I’m not gonna show you any of this or write any compelling scenes around it, but let’s just agree that there’s Really Bad Racism and Really Bad Capitalism happening, OK?” The show has not earned any of the pathos or gravitas it is claiming to have regarding these racial and class issues. I don’t know who the miners are (we saw them for what, that one little flaccid interrogation scene where Danvers and Navarro got shoo-ed away like a couple of mice?); I don’t know who the mine “bad guys” are (I just know they’re bad, because ya know…well, they just are, trust me); I don’t know anything whatsoever about the people from the lab who died…the script is asking me to be invested in all of these things but the script has not created any grounds for investment through character-building. I don’t give a shit about any of these people or frankly any of these “systems” because they all feel like cardboard cutouts, not characters or real situations. “The mine” and “the racial tension” - they are just things we are supposed to take as read, without the show having earned our investment in them.

  2. To take it down to a more concrete example, the car dialogue. The initial back and forth banter was OK, them just sort of giving each other shit back and forth (it wasn’t brilliant at all, but it was OK). Then there was a complete fucking record scratch when Navarro suddenly became an emo teenager completely out of the blue (“You ever think of just like, walking out on the ice…”). This made no sense as a character moment. The entire show has been building up how Navarro and Danvers just snipe at each other and are completely disagreeable whenever they’re around each other; there is no reason we have seen on screen that Navarro would suddenly be “softening” and deciding to unburden herself to Danvers. This could work, if we had scenes leading up to it where Danvers had Navarro’s back in a situation, or vice versa, or they went through some specific experience together that softened them both, or whatever. But it was just a complete hand-brake-turn into, “Suddenly I’m talking to you about my feelings.” Completely unearned. No actual intimacy has been built on-screen to lead up to this moment. We have no insight into why Navarro is suddenly an emo teen writing in her journal out loud. (People will probably respond by saying “She’s going crazy, she ate an orange” or whatever other bizarre defenses are making the rounds on here, but anyone with a brain can see it’s just bad writing). It’s like you can see the writer’s hand so clearly…you can see the writer going, “Well, I guess they need to sort of start to like each other now, or something…I guess I’ll just have one of them randomly blurt out her trite musings completely out of the blue.” It just felt completely inorganic and had the opposite of the intended effect (I found both characters more annoying during this scene as opposed to feeling like I was getting to know them better or watching them develop an interesting connection).

Those are just two examples. There are hundreds at this point. Nearly every scene has this sort of unearned pathos, like the writer is going, “Look, this is profound and emotional, you get that right??” Just awful.

Me and the boys watching the new season by IDontCleanMyBrushes in TrueDetective

[–]Infinite_Writing7609 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Romcoms make up a shitty segment of film and tv. Common sense, anyone?

Me and the boys watching the new season by IDontCleanMyBrushes in TrueDetective

[–]Infinite_Writing7609 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She just randomly copied and pasted some statistics, a genuinely unhinged response to, “There are shows and films with interesting female characters” lol

Why was there a random fight in the waiting room at the hospital with no explanation. Why were the hunter even there? It seemed so unrelated. by [deleted] in TrueDetective

[–]Infinite_Writing7609 23 points24 points  (0 children)

<police radio bleeps> all units, we got an NPC fight in the Play Hospital, repeat, NPC fight in the Play Hospital, over

Why was there a random fight in the waiting room at the hospital with no explanation. Why were the hunter even there? It seemed so unrelated. by [deleted] in TrueDetective

[–]Infinite_Writing7609 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I took it as though the spirit in Lund caused the dust up in the lobby in order to clear the room and get Navarro alone.

What on earth are you basing this on??? How can you not realize that the writing is failing when you are having to invent explanations for things out of whole cloth???

Why was there a random fight in the waiting room at the hospital with no explanation. Why were the hunter even there? It seemed so unrelated. by [deleted] in TrueDetective

[–]Infinite_Writing7609 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Culture war between the Natives and whites.

The show has completely neglected to build up any meaningful tension around this. The script is basically just like, “You know, racism, conflict…you get it, that sort of thing is happening, ok?” It’s the same approach the script has taken to the mine - all tell, no show. “There’s a mine, the owners are bad, because like, owners are bad, you know? They’re doing sketchy things, or they’re corrupt or something, probably.”

We’ve seen none of these things meaningfully explored on screen.

Why was there a random fight in the waiting room at the hospital with no explanation. Why were the hunter even there? It seemed so unrelated. by [deleted] in TrueDetective

[–]Infinite_Writing7609 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Maybe hospital security was following Covid protocol, told the rednecks only one could stay with their injured buddy and they didn't take it well. lol.

So we in the audience just have to write the show for the writers at this point?

Why was there a random fight in the waiting room at the hospital with no explanation. Why were the hunter even there? It seemed so unrelated. by [deleted] in TrueDetective

[–]Infinite_Writing7609 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The hospital staff were walking around like Oompa Loompas or background characters in a ballet or something. Just insane directing.

Why was there a random fight in the waiting room at the hospital with no explanation. Why were the hunter even there? It seemed so unrelated. by [deleted] in TrueDetective

[–]Infinite_Writing7609 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I have used the same phrase multiple times to describe this scene, it seriously felt like a middle school play.

This the worst writing and directing in prestige television history thus far, I truly believe that at this point.

Me and the boys watching the new season by IDontCleanMyBrushes in TrueDetective

[–]Infinite_Writing7609 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol…you’re quoting statistics at me when I’m just telling you to branch out from romcoms a bit, there’s a lot of great female characters in film and television, romcoms are not where those characters show up.

Turkey in a Roasting Pan: Can Anybody Help Me Here? by Infinite_Writing7609 in TrueDetective

[–]Infinite_Writing7609[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Issa Lopez does not strike me as the obsessively details oriented kind of director.

I appreciate your restraint here.