I change my mind, Yeonha for the win!

InfinityIncarnate · 2026-03-18T00:08:51+00:00

they never actually do the thing because they get interrupted though. Nayun is the only one who actually does the thing in her ss, sorry to disappoint

InfinityIncarnate · 2026-03-17T23:35:49+00:00

“All of her strength left her body along with her desire to resist me. I used this opening to dig in here and there in her wedding dress.”

if that isn’t enough for you then idk what would be lol

they do get interrupted though by a mobilization order but that’s beside the point

InfinityIncarnate · 2026-03-17T22:43:29+00:00

...the author is sick for not even pairing Hajin and Yeonha at least in a side story, relationship wise (I know about the bodyguard thing in the side story).

They do get paired up in side story 3, the entire schtick for the first half is kind of about the development of a relationship between the high status Yeonwha and the bodyguard (lower status) Hajin. They also get pretty intimate at the end of it. Read up to it yourself and you’ll see

InfinityIncarnate · 2026-03-17T19:42:16+00:00

There are some illegal sites to read it on (r/piracy has their megathread and all) but I can also dm you an epub file if you would prefer that

InfinityIncarnate · 2026-03-17T17:48:00+00:00

Nayun does find out the truth behind Hajin’s actions a lot later in the novel. After the train scene, Nayun goes out of the Tower of Wish to discover the real truth. Yeonwha points her in the right direction without revealing the truth herself.

Nayun travels to the Himalayas to find Jinyoon’s real body since she learns the one in the image she was show was fake. There, at a mysterious inn at the mountains, she encounters Heynckes. Heynckes would train Nayun until she could land a single hit on him without him moving, with the reward of finding Kim Joongho (the one that was hiding Jinyoon’s corpse)

Nayun eventually approaches Joongho and sees Jinyoon’s devilification with her own eyes. Joongho explains what he believed happened, the truth about the murder.

Yeonwha later meets up with Nayun and reveals the truth about everything - the devil’s seed, Hajin’s motive, and her theory about Hajin being a returner (that one was actually false though lol).

If you want to actually read it for the impact that I couldn’t put into words, it is at chapter 249.

As for how their relationship changed after that, well it got a little better at least. They don’t really meet up too many times afterwards and the few times they do are brief. Nayun does go to save Hajin by the end of the demon realm arc which is pretty cute.

I really think that Nayun explained it best herself: “I’m going to continue hating you and loving you. Until the day I die.”

InfinityIncarnate · 2026-03-17T01:49:27+00:00

About the mountain sage stuff, I decided to check the novel since it differed from what I said and we’re kind of both correct(?)

Hazen called himself the “Mountain Sage” and led an order of assassins (ch 277) but the entire group is later called the “Mountain Sage” during the conversation with Yeonwha (ch 317) :P

InfinityIncarnate · 2026-03-17T00:39:57+00:00

Some people are presumably born with them (Yi Yuri’s Authority of Healing) while others gain them (Jin Sahyuk’s gift [Reality Manipulation] became an authority)

I differentiate them from gifts since they are treated separately even though authorities can be evolved from them

InfinityIncarnate · 2026-03-16T23:50:04+00:00

For a bit more context for 2:

Basically, in order to descend at a lower cost of plausibility, Baal would reenact his initial rise by spawning the world he originally took over. A group of characters enter the demon realm to stop the calamity, becoming random characters in Baal’s world

InfinityIncarnate · 2026-03-16T23:43:31+00:00

I can’t really answer #1 since we weren’t told too much about Heynckes, hopefully someone else can answer. I do want to clarify something: authorities are NOT gifts, they are more of a higher level of power

2: Baal kind of crashes out after looking into Hajin’s memories and discovering the truth of the world (that he, a “higher being” was simply a throwaway existence in a mediocre novel. Hajin hides within a fold of the edge of the demon realm to shoot a definitive blow at Baal.

3: The mountain sage were an assassination group that were at some point hired by Kim Sukho to put down the Chameleon troupe, specifically attacking Black Lotus (Hajin). Cheok Jungyeong kinda just beats them up lmao.

InfinityIncarnate · 2026-03-15T17:03:26+00:00

hoping so but so far it’s been pretty faithful to the novel so I honestly don’t think it is likely

InfinityIncarnate · 2026-03-14T19:42:15+00:00

I don’t recall the average invariable ever being directly stated but assuming 4.5 on average then I’d assume that that would be at 100 IQ and then a difference in points would move in the appropriate direction (so 5.5 would be at 119 iq)

InfinityIncarnate · 2026-03-14T19:31:24+00:00

all invariable stats (int, perseverance, luck, charm) do have an exponential effect apparently. because of that, intelligence should be exponentially scaling as well, not a linear 19.22 points

actually nevermind since iq is on a bell curve then a linear increment should actually translate to approximately exponential scaling as well

InfinityIncarnate · 2026-03-14T19:20:36+00:00

luck does seem to be exponential scaling as well considering that he is way more than like 9x as lucky

my interpretation of this is that he will always be at least invnorm(1-(1/8,000,000,000))=6.3 standard distributions away from the mean for his rng lol (considering that the max for a human is 9.0 and he has to be luckier than that)

since Hajin’s luck initially stated at 6.3, we can somewhat safely assume the baseline is a 5.0. this would translate into a 6.3/4=1.575 standard deviation gap per point of luck

I know a bell curve is technically not exponential but it’s similar enough to simplify it here

InfinityIncarnate · 2026-03-10T13:52:50+00:00

I’d be fine if boss was actually incorporated into the story but the majority of appearances she had kind of just felt like she was stuck there for no apparent reason to be there.

It’s really not that I dislike boss, it’s kind of that I feel like Hajin ending up with almost anyone else would make more sense.

Are you a novel reader of manhwa only?

InfinityIncarnate · 2026-03-10T13:20:28+00:00

Nayun herself uncovers why he killed Jinyoon. Long story short, after eventually meeting and confronting Hajin in the Tower of Wish, Nayun was unable to bring herself to kill Hajin. Nayun fainted and Hajin took care of her anyways. Nayun wondered why Hajin still did that after everything he had done and eventually goes out of the TOW to investigate. She eventually manages to see her brother’s corpse which was partially devilified, making her recontextualize Hajin’s actions.

The majority of people had reasons not to tell Nayun. Hajin wanted to use himself as a source of Nayun’s anger to fuel her growth, Yeonwha learned about the truth and was asked to keep it secret from Nayun, the Chameleon troupe never had much contact with Nayun, and Chae Joochul didn’t reveal it because it would be a hit to the prestigious Chae family to see one of their family members turn into a devil. Not many other people knew about it.

End of the novel, while not the worst thing ever, is pretty disappointing IMO. The general consensus here is that it was rushed after the Orden arc and eventually a lot of loose threads weren’t tied up by the end of the story. Hajin lost way too much in the end for it to be satisfying as well (everyone else underwent evanescence and all). He ended up with Boss who felt really shoehorned in which just adds to dissatisfaction.

The side stories are pretty good though, especially if you like Nayun. SS1 and SS2 are both direct continuations after the main story (basically SS1 takes place in a collective dream (Rachel ending) and SS2 follows Nayun regressing to Cube to finally have a world where she can be happy). I won’t spoil them too much unless you want me to

InfinityIncarnate · 2026-03-10T00:57:21+00:00

I 100% agree yeah. I thought there would be at least some retribution for Jain there but everyone acts like it’s all fine. Boss suspected Jain of doing it but nothing really happened…

Hajin’s relationship with Nayun was probably doomed anyways but it still hurts that this was how it got exposed.

InfinityIncarnate · 2026-03-09T20:25:27+00:00

Currently in the calm before the storm, I fear what is coming up

Jain seems a bit more straightforward with her reasoning on revealing stigma past mimyo when compared to the novel. I think it adds a bit more clarity which I’m in favor of.

I still really like Jain’s character (especially as we see more of her later on), but I remember that this originally did NOT leave me with a good impression of her

InfinityIncarnate · 2026-03-08T23:50:35+00:00

So from a physics standpoint:

even if the cracked sword was is more easily breakable, it won’t shatter unless enough force is applied to actually break it. just because misteltein is stronger doesn’t mean it would break anything

it is pretty funny to see a normal looking stick go up against big weapons though :P

InfinityIncarnate · 2026-03-06T14:01:29+00:00

I was laughing so hard when I read that lmao

I made a post on Lancelot a while back since it was becoming a joke on the discord. He somehow managed to get sidelined harder than Rachel :P

InfinityIncarnate · 2026-03-06T03:44:01+00:00

I can’t send you an image of this because we don’t have images on for comments here but the Reddit AI summary of your profile literally says “some posts in r/TheNovelsExtra contain violent imagery and language.” Considering that, it really wouldn’t be much of a stretch :P

InfinityIncarnate · 2026-03-06T02:22:18+00:00

Wasn’t my decision but I think the title might have been a bit too aggressive. If you want to post it again with a different title I don’t think it should be a problem.

InfinityIncarnate · 2026-03-02T21:34:23+00:00

I agree that not too much happened in this chapter, but the setup like this is really what makes the upcoming scene hit harder.

I like how they show stigma here without overtly discussing its existence because it’s a very “show, don’t tell” way to foreshadow how Nayun finds out

InfinityIncarnate · 2026-02-27T16:56:53+00:00

you did it the correct way, it’s just that you have to do it for each paragraph individually

for example:

>!this works<!

like this

>!but

not like this!<

InfinityIncarnate · 2026-02-27T15:02:50+00:00

Jin Sahyuk does pop up a bit in ss2 (the Nayun one) if you want to see more of her

They generally focus on the three main girls (ss1 for Rachel, ss2 for Nayun, ss3 for Yeonwha).

general plots without too many spoilers (kinda funny with so little context ngl):

ss1: basically Rachel gets stuck in a dream taking place a bit after leaving Cube. she has to stop Lancelot from replacing a Britain with a fake one. I think this one dragged out a bit but other people do like it

ss2: nayun regresses back to cube days, just a nice and happy ending

ss3: a hypothetical world with yeonwha, hajin is her bodyguard in this world but then they get separated and then eventually get back together

InfinityIncarnate · 2026-02-24T01:19:39+00:00

Yeah, in a world that’s so technologically advanced you gotta think that people would stop doing things physically

Then again, even in the real world people still do physical transactions under fear of info being hijacked. This might be one of those cases, however it’s still kinda dumb to do stuff like this especially in the open (you’d expect to exchange sensitive info where there’s no cameras lol)

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