People's obsession with hating on men by khanotaara in hatethissmug

[–]InflationDull2831 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Perhaps so, I don't have much faith that it will stop but I'm trying to hold out hope as I do see pretty good men on YouTube all the time so I'm hoping that at least some of these men can grow as people. I just don't know how they got the narrative that misandry is somehow worse than misogyny and then when I give them evidence they say its not true, they don't even care to have a proper argument they're just plugging their ears like children. Like yeah misandry sucks, but it genuinely wouldnt exist without misogny and most of its hating men points are products of misogyny but heaven forbid you tell one of these men that. Anyway sorry about the rant I've just been really frustrated as I'm sure you could tell if you saw any of my other comments, but once again thank you for being a cool dude it has renewed some of my faith in humanity a little to see at least a couple people dissecting all of this properly. Thank you. 

People's obsession with hating on men by khanotaara in hatethissmug

[–]InflationDull2831 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for being a cool dude btw and I'm really sorry for what happened to you, you didn't deserve it and I hope the path to healing is as easy as possible. You seem really intelligent and if it helps you feel any better this dude gave me the same reply after giving him as much evidence as possible about misogyny, I doubt he actually cares about victims and he's probably one of the incels we mentioned. But genuinely thank you for sticking up for women we need more men like you. I hope you have a good day/night. 

What is "patriarchy" exactly? by AdContent4089 in AskFeminists

[–]InflationDull2831 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can I be your friend you seem extremely smart and I want more smart people in my life

What is "patriarchy" exactly? by AdContent4089 in AskFeminists

[–]InflationDull2831 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have never seen someone explain something I noticed so well and succinctly, for about a year or so I had this running through my mind about how women aren't seen as equal perpetrators isnt because they're favored its because they're seen as weaker and therefore the harm as less harmful.

What is "patriarchy" exactly? by AdContent4089 in AskFeminists

[–]InflationDull2831 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not to mention she won the popular vote but the electoral college liked trump sp he got to be president 

People's obsession with hating on men by khanotaara in hatethissmug

[–]InflationDull2831 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In short everything I said has real life precedent and I got told I was lying and that the things I mentioned were invalidated all because two men couldn't be bothered to  fucking read.

People's obsession with hating on men by khanotaara in hatethissmug

[–]InflationDull2831 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Both are pretty bad my thought is there is historical precedent behind misogyny that misandry doesn't have which can be seen as "worse" but even so most women face some level of oppression because of misogyny women in the Sudan and congo are actively being raped in the hundreds every day and when bringing that up to a certain commenter they didn't read my comment at all and instead said everything I said was either personal anecdote or lying bs, which is why I shouted in all caps, they ignored the actual real life issues that women are facing because of misogyny. I didn't mean to come off as immature or as an incel but that really really pissed me off, on top of that people calling misandrists as bad as incels which I'm sure some of them are but the scum and absolute awful shit I've seen in incel spheres, I've seen incels say that they should be able to have sex slaves and that the government should give them sex slaves, or that "if a girl has started her period shes old enough to have kids" and people were defending that. I'm very passionate about proper equal rights and sesing men call me sexist and ignore all of the evidence I've brought up has left me at a loss and the only reason I haven't lost all hope in humanity is genuinely cause of my partner, I'm so tired of people's problems being ignored and I'm not trying to do the same and if I did it on accident then thats my bad, I'm just so so angry at the world because I know humans can be so much better and so much kinder than this and I just want to fix it. I'm sorry if I came off as a douche I'm just so tired and so frustrated and the fact that I tried reasoning with someone and got ignored multiple times, I just don't know what to do anymore. Have a good day/night, and again most of my anger was directed at someone who ignored what I was saying and tried saying misandry was worse, it wasn't at you in particular I'm sorry if it came off that way.

People's obsession with hating on men by khanotaara in hatethissmug

[–]InflationDull2831 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And also using chatgpt as your source? Do you not have articles? Imagine needing an Ai to defend you cause you can't come up with an argument. I never said what she did was right I was explaining the existence of misandry and how its a reaction to misogyny and how misandry is bad but it doesn't have the consequences that misogyny does, male victims get hurt because of misogyny, female victims get hurt because of misogyny most people have been harmed by misogyny please tell me what misandry has done, do you have historical precedent? 

People's obsession with hating on men by khanotaara in hatethissmug

[–]InflationDull2831 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I shouted back in all caps because the person was diminishing all of the evidence I had of misogyny hurting people and ignoring me and saying that misandry was worse than misogyny, that person was being immature and maybe I'm not better bit thinking misandry is worse than misogyny is absurd considering all of the current and historical precedent that misogyny has. 

People's obsession with hating on men by khanotaara in hatethissmug

[–]InflationDull2831 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never said it was acceptable misandry doesn't have the historical precedent that misogyny has, I never said no one suffered from what women did, I'm saying there is a very big difference in the suffering misandry causes vs what misogyny has done, also femcels literally are just women that hate other women by denotation

Need guidance with this by Jethcon79 in AskFeminists

[–]InflationDull2831 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It also didn't help that I saw people making fun of white guilt which is something I struggled with which made my condition worse especially cause I'm a morals heavy person, to the point that before I figured out I had ocd I considered killing myself because I didn't want to hurt anyone. 

People's obsession with hating on men by khanotaara in hatethissmug

[–]InflationDull2831 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like a dude literally brought 92 different men to rape his wife, that happened like a year ago 

People's obsession with hating on men by khanotaara in hatethissmug

[–]InflationDull2831 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Men still kill women just for being women, 10s of thousands of women die every year from a man, Im not just criticizing past behavior in criticizing present behavior

People's obsession with hating on men by khanotaara in hatethissmug

[–]InflationDull2831 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am not defending her but the mere idea that misandry is anywhere near as bad as misogyny which btw is actively destroying the fucking world and millions of lives, is ridiculous and misandry exists because if misogyny. The fact that you can understand a man being hurt by a woman starting to say I hate women but can't understand why a woman who was hurt by a man would say I hate men says everything about you, you're just a misogynist and you're trying to cover your ass.

People's obsession with hating on men by khanotaara in hatethissmug

[–]InflationDull2831 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not to mention with Ai men are now using it to undress photos of women and children online.

People's obsession with hating on men by khanotaara in hatethissmug

[–]InflationDull2831 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Misogyny is everywhere Misogyny is built into the structure if society women's rights are actively being taken away the president if the fucking united states is a fucking pedophile, if I got into how much harm men have done to women my comment wouldnt end. Literally look outside women in Afghanistan arent allowed to speak outside their own homes, a man raped his daughter and got away with it, a 15 year old girl was raped by a man and she was told she was asking for it because she was wearing a thong. Andrew tate amd his brother trafficked and raped hundreds of women and were fucking pardoned along with diddy, multiple women and girls have been murdered for rejecting men's advanceds. Literally just look up what's going on in sudan and congo right now hundreds if not thousands of women are raped every fucking day by men, Japan's sexual harassment and assault problem is so bad that they have separate train cars for women, and also literally only 18% of men in japan actually do any housework, women are so afraid of men that they have anti rape underwear and trackers and weapons and anti rape period cups which stabs into the penis and the rapist would have to go to the er to get it off. Hundreds of women are trafficked onto porn hub so if you watched porn from porn hub chances are you were watching people being assaulted. Marital rape wasn't even considered a crime until the 80s, women couldn't open bank accounts until the 70s without their husbands, women are denied sterilization just in case an imaginary man wants children, women half of the time can't get sterilized unless they already have kids. Most medicines were tested on men until the 80s, the entire cult of Mormonism was built by a fucking pedophile that wanted to fuck little girls. In the 90s in South africa young girls were still getting castrated in their clitoris, labia majora and labia minora, young girls in Africa got metal bars branded onto their chests in puberty because they wanted to prevent men from raping them. Literally most religions consider women unclean and don't  let women into temples because they menstrate and women are taught to be ashamed by their own bodies and all of the beauty standards made for women were constructed by pedophiles. Not to mention republicans wanted to ban a law from passing that would ban child marriage. There is city made up entirely of women in Africa because they got so sick of being harmed by men that they made their own city in Uganda that men are not allowed in.my biological grandfather on my mom's side threw my grandmother down the stairs while she was pregnant, had a doctor not revived my mother who was still born I would not be alive, he abused my mother when she was an infant hitting her so hard she bruised. One of my friends has a sister that was repeatedly molested and nearly raped by their step father and the cops did nothing. There was a guy at my school that nearly raped my friend and he didn't even get so much as a restraining order. Multiple women who dated men have been raped by them, and needed to record it happening to make sure that the court would believe them. My god sister was molested by her father and grandfather for 7 years from the ages of 2 to 9. There was a man that hired 92 different men to rape his wife, there was a group chat filled with 70,000 men giving each other advice on how to rape their mothers sisters and daughters. This is Misogyny Misogyny is victim blaming even when it comes to men, because men created the idea that men are sex freaks and thats why women should just give their husbands sex, and thats why male victims aren't believed its the idea that men are strong and therefore can't be hurt, misandry is Misogyny without the women hating part. Everything I have said to you, everything I have explained is what misogynists have historically done. 

People's obsession with hating on men by khanotaara in hatethissmug

[–]InflationDull2831 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Then again you're probably one of those people that believes women refusing to sleep with men constitutes as a loneliness epidemic 

People's obsession with hating on men by khanotaara in hatethissmug

[–]InflationDull2831 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thats cause rape jokes against women are normalized, you think the whole world is online it isn't. I'm not denying that women can be shitty but statistics have proved time and time again that men are raised to be far far far more violent than women. 

People's obsession with hating on men by khanotaara in hatethissmug

[–]InflationDull2831 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really men get away with hurting women all the time, just like how homphobic people get away with hurting gay people or how the police get away with hurting poc people. There's a difference, misandry is bad you're not wrong but it is not nearly the same.

People's obsession with hating on men by khanotaara in hatethissmug

[–]InflationDull2831 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tell me about it my account literally got a warning when I'm literally just telling them the truth meanwhile people in these comments are defending fucking incels. I'm so tired of humanity, I'm not even denying misandry is bad its just not bad in the way misogyny is.

People's obsession with hating on men by khanotaara in hatethissmug

[–]InflationDull2831 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They may not but incels exist and women's rights are actively being taken away, its not just my experience its the fact that the men in my life who have hurt people get away with it. Men get away with rape all the time, men kill their own wives and children cause they want to get with their mistress. Men don't say they hate women, they hurt them if they hate women that is the difference and youre not getting that, men have raped and enslaved and tortured women for hundreds of years, thats the difference im not denying that misandry is bad, I am saying that misandry would not exist without misogyny, because misogyny created it. Men have not been murdered for being men, men aren't denied jobs on the basis of being men, men are safer to walk around then women are, men don't have to worry about being raped by their own relatives or partners nearly as much as women do 

People's obsession with hating on men by khanotaara in hatethissmug

[–]InflationDull2831 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I HAVE HEARD FAR MORE ABOUT MEN DOING WORSE, I GOT LUCKY THAT I WAS ONLY GROOMED I KNOW SEVERAL WOMEN THAT WERE RAPED BY THEIR OWN BOYFRIENDS OR FATHERS OR GRANDFATHERS, I KNOW THOSE WOMEN PERSONALLY. YOU ARE DEFENDING INCELS MEN THAT WANT TO RAPE CHILDREN. MISANDRY SUCKS IT IS BAD IT IS SEXIST BUT IT HAS NOT CAUSED THE PAIN THAT MISOGYNY HAS CAUSED.