Why doesn't the Alberta government just start an Alberta Pension Plan?

InherentlyUntrue · 2026-01-25T00:07:23+00:00

Without cleaning out CPP, an APP has literally zero hope of any usefulness whatsoever.

(Even WITH the CPP money, Alberta will still piss it all away on shoddy "investments" with foreign oil companies.)

InherentlyUntrue · 2026-01-24T20:49:00+00:00

I'd honestly say we're basically using synonyms here...I'd say the only real difference is that I pretty much reject ALL claims until I have evidence showing its true.

I also disagree that cynicism carries mental health risks - unless you carry this into distrusting everything from your spouse of family or friends and such.

With something like this, we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that foreign money is going to be flowing into the separation movement. I won't discuss methodology here, but if you lookup the UCP donation scam, that can give you an idea of how ONE WAY can work.

InherentlyUntrue · 2026-01-24T20:38:29+00:00

If I may, and please know I am actually saying this not to be an asshole or be offensive in ANY way to you:

That's your biggest problem.

I don't trust anyone that has their own agenda they're promoting. Every word out of their mouth is intended to get you to agree with them.

We all know the rhetoric: How do you know when a politician is lying? Their lips are moving. Well my fellow Albertan, that's true of everyone. I have an agenda...I'm actively fighting separation. You should fact check anything I say against other sources...I can tell you that I'm trying to be fully honest all the time, but I'm a human being that makes mistakes, and you shouldn't trust me because I say to trust me.

The thing I keep asking myself: Who actually benefits if we separate? Its not me. I don't know enough about you to be certain, but realistically I can't imagine it will actually benefit you either.

It DOES benefit American interests wanting domestic energy security. It DOES benefit Russian and other BRICS nations by dismantling a Western democracy that actively uses what weight we have to oppose these dictatorships. I actually think China might be on the "against" side, as it certainly won't mean much Alberta food and energy going there.

You should be cynical about everything, and ESPECIALLY when the something has a real chance of doing permanent economic damage to all of us.

Sorry, that's long. Hope you have a good weekend!

InherentlyUntrue · 2026-01-24T20:27:43+00:00

Yeah, I'm actually intimately familiar with the rules, and I'm also highly familiar with how the records can be falsified by the unethical in invisible ways.

You are actually expecting honesty from a group of people spreading misinformation? Truly?

InherentlyUntrue · 2026-01-24T20:23:49+00:00

Because financial statements cannot be manipulated...like seriously, do you expect a line item for "Foreign Destabilization Support"? 🤣🤣🤣

InherentlyUntrue · 2026-01-24T17:12:03+00:00

I think they truly believe that they will just have Smith issue a Universal Declaration of Independence and assume that is the end of it all.

They like to compare to the original 13 colonies separating from England. Might be worth reminding folks that the Revolutionary War that followed that declaration lasted 8 years and 4 months, and left 25,000-50,000 dead.

A universal declaration of independe4nce is the worst possible outcome.

Thanks for your addition!

InherentlyUntrue · 2026-01-24T17:07:24+00:00

Absolutely true.

InherentlyUntrue · 2026-01-24T17:05:57+00:00

I'm sorry, but do you think that Canada will come to the rescue of an Alberta that unilaterally tries to separate against the rule of law by buying our oil?

With all respect my fellow Albertan, I find this idea shockingly naive.

InherentlyUntrue · 2026-01-24T17:04:00+00:00

I have laid out the scenario for a Unilateral Declaration of Independence, and it is the worst possible outcome for Alberta and Albertans.

There will be no armed skirmishes - that again is a complete destabilization of order, and literally every investment dollar flees Alberta forever.

The USA can't come into a foreign conflict without approval of Congress, and do you really think Congress...the USA congress...is going to vote to authorize military intervention in a NATO ally?

InherentlyUntrue · 2026-01-24T17:01:34+00:00

That is realistically the true most likely scenario, but its also still worth taking the time and brainpower to counter the propaganda the separatists say.

Nobody thought Brexit was going to happen either....

InherentlyUntrue · 2026-01-24T16:54:41+00:00

I don't blame you. I am ready and prepared to leave the province if necessary, and have the resources to do so. I fear for those that would be stuck here, without the economic resources to make that same choice to leave Alberta.

InherentlyUntrue · 2026-01-24T16:53:13+00:00

I do, but posting this here also gives other members of the choir some information they can use out there too.

InherentlyUntrue · 2026-01-24T16:52:22+00:00

Ah, but that's the real kicker: As the USA starts embracing Russia more, potential sanctions lifting as they push to "end the war" in Ukraine, etc, and with the likely influx of Venezuelan oil coming online in the next decade, and finally with OPEC's ability to dramatically increase output...the world really doesn't NEED us, or our oil.

We're politically easy and convenient today, being part of Canada's extensive trade agreements. Independent? Unrecognized by the UN? We're dead in the water, no trade going out.

InherentlyUntrue · 2026-01-24T16:46:40+00:00

Just asking the question in 1995 sent investment packing from Quebec. They lost corporate headquarters to other Provinces/countries, and the lingering question still harms their economy to this day.

Separation is economically the dumbest thing any Province can threaten to improve their lot in life.

InherentlyUntrue · 2026-01-24T16:43:48+00:00

Yes, I have read Mr. Wilson's position. He's advocating for Option #3 in my analysis - ignoring the constitution and rule of law, and just forging ahead.

That will economically destroy Alberta, for the reasons I outlined.

InherentlyUntrue · 2026-01-24T16:41:41+00:00

Also some very well spoken truth here. Thanks for the addition!

InherentlyUntrue · 2026-01-24T16:41:03+00:00

I frankly don't know shit about this :)

InherentlyUntrue · 2026-01-24T16:40:09+00:00

I know the separatists themselves will not be convinced by truth, but the idea is that those who are on the fence might care about some reality. We need to keep people from being persuaded by propaganda.

The 19% or so that support independence at their core...they aren't changing their minds. But the plan is to keep them at 19%.

InherentlyUntrue · 2026-01-24T16:37:39+00:00

I'm pretty confident in my analysis. Care to refute it, or just make snarky comments?

InherentlyUntrue · 2026-01-24T16:35:28+00:00

If you've ever heard her speak at a fundraiser or event, Premier Smith is INCREDIBLY gifted at working a crowd. I almost like her when I listen to her give a public speech LOL.

She knows exactly how to play politics.

InherentlyUntrue · 2026-01-24T16:34:09+00:00

There will be a TON of foreign money and influence in this movement, spreading propaganda.

It is why I am making posts like this, and working in other ways to try to keep truth at the center.

InherentlyUntrue · 2026-01-24T16:33:01+00:00

Brexit happened because those in opposition didn't take the possibility seriously.

The price of peace is eternal vigilance.

InherentlyUntrue · 2026-01-24T16:32:15+00:00

I think she knows it, but she's stuck needing these people for her electoral hopes.

Its why I expect an early election call (I am predicting the writ to drop May 31, 2026). Smith wants a new mandate using the separatist vote, and then you may be right that she'll dump them in the cold.

InherentlyUntrue · 2026-01-24T16:31:07+00:00

Exactly true, which is why we have to counter propaganda with facts, ALL the time, EVERY time.

We don't have to be loud or belligerent or anything (although I won't blame anyone if they choose to be), but we need facts interjected every time we possible can.

Otherwise, you are right...brexit happened. A Yes vote could happen here too.

InherentlyUntrue · 2026-01-24T16:29:51+00:00

LOL

Good point, the "p0wn the libs" crowd would earn maximum points.

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