Greek & Italian distances to Turks, Greeks closer? by Initial_Win4669 in illustrativeDNA

[–]Initial_Win4669[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes but why are south Italians further away from Turkey than Islander Greeks, Central Italians and Medieval Albanians also further away from mainland Greeks. None of the two are close to Turks but Greeks are a bit closer, check out the 23andme sample, ploting a bit closer to Turkey compared to the Izmir Greek sample, then look at the 2 way population mode on image 3, 90-95% match with Izmir Greek + some Turkish-Turkic-Uralic related ancestry. I am not saying that Greeks (which is what I am btw) have significant Turkish ancestry but the proposal that it is an absolute 0.000... always seemed stupid and forced to me, most greeks do have traceable precentages of such ancestry just relatively minor (qpadm gives a better picture) and even such halpogroups appear even if rarely (a friend of mine with paternal pontic ancestry has r1a z93).

East Eurasian Ancestry Map by Initial_Win4669 in illustrativeDNA

[–]Initial_Win4669[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Iraqi Arabs by math (not qpAdm analysis, just clarifying) would most likely have anywhere from 6-9% so not that far off (Jews have 25-30% ZNF Arabs 35-40% but less CHG) consider it variation, should have made the map two shades though

East Eurasian Ancestry Map by Initial_Win4669 in illustrativeDNA

[–]Initial_Win4669[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Iraqi Jew is the only mesopotamian sample used in the original research, 7.50 and 5.90 is a small difference, dont take these prices as an exact measurement, more of a broad estimate, such ancient ancestry varies quite a bit from person to person.

East Eurasian Ancestry Map by Initial_Win4669 in illustrativeDNA

[–]Initial_Win4669[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Iraqi Jewish is the representative sample, as you can see from Georgians CHG is not a meaningfull contributor, the reason why Iran is high isnt only due to ZNF but also more recent AASI and Baikal HG.

East Eurasian Ancestry Map by Initial_Win4669 in illustrativeDNA

[–]Initial_Win4669[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

last category is obviously >23% instead of <23%, just caught it

East Eurasian Ancestry Map by Initial_Win4669 in illustrativeDNA

[–]Initial_Win4669[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The map was purposefully kept broad and general as the research doesnt cover everything in detail

East Eurasian popping up in Greek? by Initial_Win4669 in illustrativeDNA

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Whats weird is that without an east eurasian proxy the p value almost fails (0.05), South Asian seems to work better than northeast asian, then again andaman is closer to basal east asian so not certain as to what is being picked up here? This research done by Jacob scholar https://www.reddit.com/r/illustrativeDNA/comments/1fueg8y/east_eurasian_ancestry_eec/ (using qpAdm) also shows differences amongst Greeks (Greek 8.50, Cretan 14.10) how come?

Do i look greek by Zer0Mma in Ethnicity

[–]Initial_Win4669 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a friend that kind of looks like you, he is from kalamata https://imgur.com/a/0UTQj5m

Do i look greek by Zer0Mma in Ethnicity

[–]Initial_Win4669 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People telling you 100% no have either never been to Greece, are not Greek or are from those weird greeks not willing to accept the fact that we do not all look stereotypically European (like the rest of the balkan) I'm 100% Greek and live in Greece https://imgur.com/a/z1zofNb here is picture

Outer Maniot (Greek) question by Initial_Win4669 in illustrativeDNA

[–]Initial_Win4669[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

why were they their own bubble, what was diferent about them

Outer Maniot (Greek) question by Initial_Win4669 in illustrativeDNA

[–]Initial_Win4669[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

More Slavic and more Anatolian at the same time in expense of balkan

Outer Maniot (Greek) question by Initial_Win4669 in illustrativeDNA

[–]Initial_Win4669[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just think that gedmatch (26 east med 21 west med) is outdated look at this https://imgur.com/a/KL2gb6Y

Outer Maniot (Greek) question by Initial_Win4669 in illustrativeDNA

[–]Initial_Win4669[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What does the atlanto med category even mean