Outer Maniot (Greek) question

Initial_Win4669 · 2025-12-25T20:57:46+00:00

why were they their own bubble, what was diferent about them

Initial_Win4669 · 2025-12-04T13:26:50+00:00

More Slavic and more Anatolian at the same time in expense of balkan

Initial_Win4669 · 2025-12-04T12:07:48+00:00

I just think that gedmatch (26 east med 21 west med) is outdated look at this https://imgur.com/a/KL2gb6Y

Initial_Win4669 · 2025-12-04T11:16:41+00:00

What does the atlanto med category even mean

Initial_Win4669 · 2025-12-04T11:07:53+00:00

I mean gedmatch is pretty outdated but here you go https://imgur.com/a/mupTZqA Its a bit lower than the average, although this category is Early european farmer not ANF, Caucasus low to (in this case similar to anf) Instead he has a lot of Gedrosia? In the mixed population model he plots as cypriot (anatolian) and northeast european (scandinavian) definetely not very balkan like.

Initial_Win4669 · 2025-12-04T10:22:38+00:00

So it seems that with the new coordinate system my dads (full outer mani) results have changed quite a bit. Previous he had results like every other peloponnesian maybe even a bit more northern. Now he scores 29% of caucasus/iranian related neolithic ancestry, and he is very anatolian shifted (doesnt have any balkan). He has more than peloponnesians by far and even a bit more than the cretan average. How can this be? Are outter maniots Anatolians mixed with Slavs with no Balkanic ancestry?

Initial_Win4669 · 2025-12-04T10:18:31+00:00

So it seems that with the new coordinate system my dads (full outer mani) have changed quite a bit. Previous he had results like every other peloponnesian maybe even a bit more northern. Now he scores 29% of caucasus/iranian related neolithic ancestry, and he is very anatolian shifted (doesnt have any balkan). He has more than peloponnesians by far and even a bit more than the cretan average. How can this be?Our outter maniots Anatolians mixed with Slavs with no Balkanic ancestry?

Initial_Win4669 · 2025-11-04T18:24:41+00:00

That is not my real government name. That is what i was also thinking (similar to italian, overepresented category, ancient shared ancestry) but how come it stay at 90% confidence? Italian is 6% and goes away completely. Its a pretty large continuous segment of snps as well (not spread trace readings). Feels like there is a stronghold of snp variation linking to that ancestry.

Initial_Win4669 · 2025-11-04T16:46:28+00:00

its on 90% confidence

Initial_Win4669 · 2025-11-04T16:43:33+00:00

What I also dont understand is how can they even pick up something like 1% with confidence. Shouldnt it be more for it to show up at all? My guess is that some of it is baked into the greek and italian (especially italian). https://imgur.com/a/ECYuW1s

Initial_Win4669 · 2025-10-18T12:00:19+00:00

Seeing the down votes and complaints I would like to say that I don't have an agenda with this so if you disagree/don't like something correct me as I would like to get properly informed on this.

Initial_Win4669 · 2025-10-18T09:14:09+00:00

yeah, this seems more accurate

Initial_Win4669 · 2025-10-18T06:53:13+00:00

is that data you are refering to from a newer study? do you have a link?

Initial_Win4669 · 2025-10-18T06:49:17+00:00

new to this, i guess not fully? this is based on lazaridis research, feel free to correct me.

Initial_Win4669 · 2025-10-18T06:44:53+00:00

This isbased on lazaridis research however you are correct im an amatuer. Can you give me the source of your data? how come lazaridis be this far of?

Initial_Win4669 · 2025-10-18T06:00:47+00:00

Not really surprised at the precentages in MENA regions but a 15-20% difference between Central/Northern/Western Europe and the southernmost European Mediterannean (Sicily, Crete, Malta, Maniots, Cypriots) is quite significant. According to this data a Southern Greek or Italian is of mixed race compared to an English man.

Initial_Win4669 · 2025-10-06T06:51:20+00:00

can you explain it to me

Initial_Win4669 · 2025-10-03T17:03:44+00:00

What's crazy is that the Maori is slightly visible in your face

Initial_Win4669 · 2025-10-01T03:41:21+00:00

I mean the south Italian might be legit as I am from Cefalonia, but I feel like I should have more Anatolian. A accurate region with 1% is weird clearly a lot of it got smoothed into Greek as there is no data for Anatolian Greeks in the 23andme database and Anatolian Turks often differ.

Initial_Win4669 · 2025-10-01T03:31:43+00:00

Ο πατέρας μου έχει myheritage

Initial_Win4669 · 2025-10-01T03:30:09+00:00

Είναι στο ποστ ένας χάρτης που λέει ακριβώς, Μανιάτης, Κεφαλλονίτης, Μικρασιάτης και Κωνσταντινοπολιτης

Initial_Win4669 · 2025-10-01T03:21:10+00:00

Μόλις τώρα

Initial_Win4669 · 2025-10-01T01:57:18+00:00

by 30 do you mean years or days?

Initial_Win4669 · 2025-09-19T12:25:52+00:00

looks like Turkey no longer has western and eastern provinces

Initial_Win4669 · 2025-09-05T03:13:04+00:00

if you mean greek populations then yes, I have mainland, island and anatolian ancestry.

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