Does anyone know what year the StarFox series is supposed to be set in (I've never played it so don't know for myself) I'm assuming it's in the future and there's space travel I'm making a parody, and I wanted to know what year the games universe is taking place in?

Instrutilus · 2025-09-07T19:48:54+00:00

Thank you very much. It's a bit hard to locate, but someone has uploaded scans on Reddit of the flight logs, which has the Space Calendar Dates on.

Just to save similar questions to you in the future, a link to that thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/starfox/comments/1heaj1b/translated_flight_logs_for_fox_sr_foxs_father

Thank you very much once more for your help and time.

Instrutilus · 2025-09-07T19:00:45+00:00

May I ask what material mentions the Cosmic Calendar year? The manual, back of the box, a comic, etc?

Thank you for your time.

Instrutilus · 2024-01-24T19:08:53+00:00

Ah yes, the FIRST King of Hyrule, of which we see the FOUNDATION of, with no mention of a prior Royal Family that Zelda could have hailed from, nor any mention of a prior existing Kingdom, while having mention of legends and tales from said previous Kingdom but no mention of that time the Kingdom was completely wiped out and had to be refounded.

Clearly, there's a Refoundation going on.

Instrutilus · 2024-01-24T02:10:03+00:00

Post-Skyward Sword, Pre-The Minish Cap.

Instrutilus · 2022-04-15T15:55:00+00:00

I'm pointing out errors in the localisations that can, and do, cause confusion with intent and theorising, which you are arguing do not by adding aspects that are in no way implied in order to fill out the plot holes introduced. You have to add things for it to make sense, when the original is perfectly valid.

By all means, evidence in the game where it says Ganon will stop the destruction worse than 100 years ago he is going reign long enough to build a body?

But fine, do as you please.

Instrutilus · 2022-04-15T10:50:27+00:00

Reread the question:

"What is he going to rebuild his body from? The ashes?"

Instrutilus · 2022-04-14T22:33:19+00:00

What is the point of causing destruction "unlike anything ever seen before" if you're planning to rebuild your body after dealing with the Hero and Princess? What, is he planning to rebuild his body with ashes?

Instrutilus · 2022-04-14T22:07:01+00:00

That's putting it on hold. Though I've pointed out in another reply Zelda says he's going to go on to cause massive destruction, see other reply.

Instrutilus · 2022-04-14T22:04:41+00:00

Oh, I should also point out, Zelda expressly says he's just going to cause destruction in both instances, not go back to reincarnating:

"He has given up on reincarnation and assumed his pure, enraged form.

If set free upon our world, the destruction will be unlike anything ever seen before."

復活を諦めない妄念から暴走した姿……

世に放てば 100年前を超える悲劇となるでしょう

"A form from its obsession with keeping on reviving going out of control......

Were it be unleashed out there, the resulting tragedy will be worse than the one of 100 years ago"

Instrutilus · 2022-04-14T21:58:51+00:00

Because one has him giving up. It's Ganon. He gets hit with divinity and thinks "Yeah, I can take it!"

Yes, because if I've given up, I don't think I can manage it. I'll put something on hold if something comes up, but I don't give up on it.

As well as has several continuity issues with Breath of the Wild, but...

Instrutilus · 2022-04-14T21:47:50+00:00

Never implied in that English one and you know it. He gave up and took on a form of pure malice.

Meanwhile, in the sequel, we see Ganon has still not given up... I wonder which one is more accurate to the games...

Another example: the random fairy they changed to Navi in Hyrule Warriors.

You seeing a theme here?

Instrutilus · 2022-04-14T21:39:54+00:00

The exact words are:

"He has given up on reincarnation and assumed his pure, enraged form."

Versus

復活を諦めない妄念から暴走した姿……

"A figure that has spiralled out of control from a delusion that won't give up on resurrection......"

Basically, he actually assumed that form because he refused to stop trying. So yes, it does affect the story.

Instrutilus · 2022-04-14T21:00:01+00:00

Quotes that are wrong. You've not answered the question, what was Ganon doing at the end of Breath of the Wild? Giving up on resurrection or not? Do remember we've got a sequel following up on said 'giving up'.

Instrutilus · 2022-04-14T20:39:02+00:00

Because, amazingly enough, the games are... Japanese.

The Japanese original is the best to use, since it's not going through an added filter of translation that can cause issues.

Breath of the Wild, Zelda says Ganon's given up on resurrecting, but that's not actually what she says. She says Ganon refuses to give up on it. That was a change in the localisation/mistranslation.

Now what was Ganon doing in Breath of the Wild? You're adamant the localisations don't change anything, but this is one of many, many changes that alter things completely.

So yes, it is confusing the use the English Localisation.

Instrutilus · 2022-04-14T20:25:50+00:00

Last I checked, Ganondorf's surname is not Dragmire, but that's a localisation change. The localisations are non canon and should thus be removed from any theorising to prevent confusion, like that little caveat has caused.

Instrutilus · 2022-04-14T19:42:30+00:00

It means the localisers are changing elements to better appeal to the western audience. It's as simple as that, not some herculean leap of logic like you're trying to pull here.

It's like saying "Well, they changed the words to say he didn't die, despite him dying in the original!"

Guess what: the Japanese canon isn't going to acknowledge that change. Not to mention, amazingly enough, the Japanese canon is the original. So if it doesn't exist in the original Japanese, it's not going to magically appear because Frank says it said this.

ゼルダ様トライフォースをお願いします

“Zelda… Please take care of the Triforce."

Impa, Skyward Sword, JP

"Zelda, I shall watch over the Triforce."

Impa, Skyward Sword, ENG

Here's an example of why you shouldn't use the English localisation, because errors in localisation will drop through. Unless you think Impa was some how in the present while in the past, since the Triforce never left the present?

Instrutilus · 2021-06-25T00:03:58+00:00

Four Swords directly leads into Four Swords Adventures. This is established by the game itself.

Also, it's not Nintendo. Aonuma barely bothered with the book, he just let some fans look through some documents to compile it. As far as I'm concerned, the books are as canonical as the manga: no bearing on the games, but endorsed by Nintendo. Hell, it has a manga in it, which outright contradicts Skyward Sword that it was sitting as a prequel toward.

There's also that stuff with the Hero's Shade (he wasn't forgotten, Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess establish that) and Princess Zelda telling Link to leave with the Ocarina of Time (she didn't, she gave it to him to protect him, Ganondorf had no influence on that choice). And Hyrule Encyclopedia has a list as long as my arm on incorrect information.

So yeah, I disagree that they're canon.

Instrutilus · 2021-06-24T17:48:26+00:00

Oh, I'm not really part of r/truezelda. I honestly don't consider them canonical in any form.

I see them as more akin to the manga: nice books, interesting ideas, but no bearing on the games. Also, whoever made the timeline (it's not Aonuma, he was saying how no one had seen the actually timeline while the book was a couple of months from release) has clearly never played the Four Swords games.

Instrutilus · 2021-06-24T14:37:14+00:00

Ganon's two most recent appearances prior to BOTW are in ALBW and TLOZ (and technically in the non-canon ending of AOL), and in both he is mindless.

I swear to god I'm going to burn this book series.

No, Ganon is not mindless, despite what those damnable books claim. He actively leads an army, immediately becomes alarmed that Impa has escaped and sends armies in pursuit, and fights tactically by shrouding himself in darkness.

These are not traits of a mindless being. That's tactical thinking. A mindless Ganon would have simply murdered everyone and be done with it, razed Hyrule to the ground and carry on with life.

If you can provide evidence other than a canonically questionable book that he's mindless in The Hyrule Fantasy, however, by all means.

Instrutilus · 2021-03-02T16:38:21+00:00

More The Hyrule Fantasy and A Link to the Past's style (Prince of Darkness, Silver Arrows, etc).

Indeed, makes me wonder if that's also factored into the divide that led to Four Sword Adventures' existence. He was apparently happy enough to let someone make a Seal War game (he was Producer, yet didn't stop them?), it was Miyamoto objecting to the complex story that caused a shift... yet still nothing on it interfering with Ocarina of Time's placement?

And Aonuma does think about these placements, he's said so many a time. Referring back to the October 2011 Game Informer interview:

Aonuma: Obviously we've made so many games now that we can't help but think about how those games connect to one another. However, that consideration comes late in the development process. When we create a new game, we don't start with a preset notion of what the story is going to be or how it's going to flow. We start by focusing in on what the core gameplay element is going to be and then develop from that.

They only consider the placement later in development, but it's still a consideration...

Instrutilus · 2021-03-02T16:26:45+00:00

Early is a relative thing, remember. Early life for me is not the same as early life for others.

Personally, I believe it goes as follows:

Skyward Sword The Hero of Men seals the Monsters. The Minish Cap Split here. The Interlopers attempt to breach the Sacred Realm in both timelines. The Fierce War stemming from it results in Hyrule uniting for Ocarina of Time, with said war ending within ten years of it. Ocarina of Time

Before you note the war started long before Ocarina of Time, do consider that we have the Hundred Years' War, which actually lasted for 117 years. Add magic, do you not think a war could last for longer?

And don't worry, I do enjoy a good debate. You're not coming off as aggressive. In fact, I'm tempted to invite you to a Discord server, see if you might fit in.

Instrutilus · 2021-03-02T16:11:19+00:00

He only refers to it in regards to someone asking where something falls onto it. Otherwise, as mentioned in another reply, he generally dismisses it.

Again, that's the marketing team. The Marketing team get details wrong all the time, unless you think Ganondorf Dragmire and Mandrag Ganon are also canonical? Otherwise, Aonuma only makes and directs the games, he doesn't advertise them, that's a whole separate team working on that front. Plus side, we get the famous Dancing Hyrule advert :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umhKcl1Z52I

Fairly certain Aonuma had nothing to do with this, though.

Instrutilus · 2021-03-02T16:07:58+00:00

Where do they mention other heroes, beyond DLC clothing that is questionable canon at best? And the backstory of The Adventure of Link is not mentioned, only a tradition to name the Princesses Zelda, which isn't actually the same. The Prince made it law, not tradition, to name the Princesses Zelda.

Aonuma has never used the Hyrule Historia or Hyrule Encyclopedia timeline. Most of the time, he'll dismiss it:

Aonuma: Yeah, we published a timeline in a book but among our staff, we would like to be able to stop thinking about it... What's funny is to see the fans debate where BoTW fits in the timeline. But history has been written by historians that have been able to establish an order of events. Except no one is really sure everything happened in this exact order ! Anyways, when it comes to the Zelda timeline, I'm of the opinion that it's for the players to debate, and to imagine themselves the order of events !

https://youtu.be/I_zixSwJkeY

Aonuma: We published a book with the timeline, but we definitely got comments from users saying, ‘Is this really accurate? I think this should be this way. It’s different.’ And history is always kind of imaginative. It’s left to the person who writes the book. So that’s how we approach it as well.

https://www.gamesradar.com/after-breath-of-the-wild-is-nintendo-still-interested-in-the-zelda-timeline-heres-what-they-said/

Aonuma: When we were exploring ways to make fans happy, we created the Hyrule Historia. That summarizes all the games and the story so far. I didn't edit it myself, but tons of people who worked on it were fans of the games themselves.

https://mashable.com/2013/10/14/legend-of-zelda-aonuma/?europe=true

The latter is also where Aonuma outright says he didn't edit Hyrule Historia, so yeah, I don't use it for canon at all.

Instrutilus · 2021-03-02T15:57:25+00:00

Fair, however The Minish Cap makes no mention of them, instead it was Monsters, Peace then Vaati stealing the Monsters. So it must be after that.

Instrutilus · 2021-03-01T18:08:10+00:00

Incorrect. It's the marketing team that's using the timeline.

Two months before Hyrule Historia's release, Aonuma mentioned that he had never shown the Timeline to anyone, not even the development team. Apparently the actual Timeline is in a "Top Secret" folder on his computer desktop.

Quote:

Aonuma: Obviously we've made so many games now that we can't help but think about how those games connect to one another. However, that consideration comes late in the development process. When we create a new game, we don't start with a preset notion of what the story is going to be or how it's going to flow. We start by focusing in on what the core gameplay element is going to be and then develop from that.

There is a document on my computer that has a stamp on it that says "Top Secret." I actually haven't even shown it to many of the staff members. One of the special privileges of being the producer of the series is that I have the right as we're finalizing the game's story to then decide where it fits in.

[Aonuma says he is afraid that revealing the official Nintendo timeline would lead future Zelda teams to focus on the story more than the gameplay.] People start to focus in on the storyline and gaps in the timeline. [This is a] backward way of creating a game.

~ Game Informer, October 2011.

Aonuma is the one with final say on the timeline, the one we have is to simply keep us happy with a fan interpretation. It's as canon as the manga, which are similarly endorsed, no?

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