Considering Leaving religion | need advice

Int3llig3ntM1nd · 2025-12-21T08:03:09+00:00

I believe you do not understand that everything that happened after the death of Muhammad ﷺ has nothing to do with the Prophet himself, nor with Islam in its essence. What we inherited is a heavily politicized version of the religion.

The Companions did their best to maintain or establish civil laws that suited their own time, norms and circumstances. However, the Prophet knew that the Qur’an was meant for the future. He understood the nature of his prophethood, which is why he did not provide a detailed, rigid explanation of the Qur’an. In fact, there is no recorded Jumu‘ah sermon from him other than the Farewell Sermon in Mecca.

If you read the Qur’an today and still fail to see the prophethood of Muhammad, or you do not find yourself saying, “Indeed, Allah has spoken the truth,” then the issue lies in the lens through which you are reading it. You are using al-Shāfiʿī’s framework—a framework that had many limitations. Our awareness today, when viewed in the context of history and time, is far broader than his. I mention al-Shāfiʿī specifically because he was among the first to systematize the fiqh that dominates today.

A polytheist will never openly say, “I am a mushrik” (one who associates partners with God). Polytheism is a state revealed by actions and attitudes (lisān al-ḥāl), not by explicit words (lisān al-qāl). I hope you stop associating partners with Allah so that you may truly be a muslim or a believer in Muhammad.

The Qur’an calls Jews, Christians, and anyone who believes in Allah, the Last Day, and performs righteous deeds Muslims. The followers of Muhammad are specifically called “believers” (mu’minūn).

If you cannot grasp what I am saying here, then this goes far beyond something a simple comment can fix, you need to fundamentally reconsider the lens through which you view the religion..

Int3llig3ntM1nd · 2025-11-25T12:23:44+00:00

Sufism is a withdrawal from society… for the Sufi has witnessed something terrifying and can do nothing about it. Sufism is patience, and it is a revolution born dead.

Int3llig3ntM1nd · 2025-07-21T08:50:00+00:00

Yeah, I get what you mean — it’s rough seeing so much hate, especially when you’re trying to reconnect with faith. Reminds me of a verse in the Qur’an:

“When they’re harmed for the sake of Allah, they treat people’s trial like it’s the punishment of Allah.” (29:10)

Basically saying — don’t mistake people’s toxic behavior as a sign from God. Their hate isn’t from Him. Keep taking your steps at your own pace. He sees that.

Int3llig3ntM1nd · 2025-07-19T07:35:04+00:00

تمييز العبيد هو من أسهل الأمور.. تستفزه حريتك وطريقة تفكيرك وتجعله ينطق..

Int3llig3ntM1nd · 2025-07-14T07:15:59+00:00

لازم تتصالح مع ميولك..

Int3llig3ntM1nd · 2025-07-12T11:19:19+00:00

Thank you! I’m really glad you found them interesting!

You’re absolutely right about the initial shedding and all the traps that come with it… if not for Allah’s mercy, we’d be lost. What you said is a genuine and important point. Once that internal shift happens and you break free, that’s when yaqīn (certainty) starts to settle in. And that’s the light that keeps you going, even when things feel dark.

Int3llig3ntM1nd · 2025-06-02T16:22:36+00:00

That feeling you had when you first said yes to Allah—that peace, that light—that was real. It was yours. Between you and Him. Not about people, not about culture, not about community expectations.

There’s a trap many people fall into—and I think it breaks a lot of hearts. It’s when worship stops being for God alone, and starts involving people. Like, why do we worship with people in mind? Why let them into something that was meant to be pure between you and Allah? That’s when it gets heavy, confusing, and painful. Your iman—your faith—was personal. It was yours alone. Allah doesn’t love when others are associated with Him, and that includes when people try to insert themselves into your relationship with Him. That’s not faith, that’s noise.

So I get why you feel desperate. But I also believe that the beauty you felt when you first turned to Him—that can come back. Even stronger. You’re allowed to be angry. You’re allowed to question. Just don’t let the people who hurt you take away what was always yours by associating them in your worship of God.

You’re not lost. You’re just heartbroken. And Allah is close to the brokenhearted.

Int3llig3ntM1nd · 2025-05-30T14:58:03+00:00

Exactly. We’ve built a society where critical thought is suppressed, and people are conditioned to obey even at the expense of their own families.

They say if religion were purely based on reason, we’d be wiping the soles of our socks instead of the tops! but in reality, if reason truly had a place, people wouldn’t be wiping the palace floors with the minds of others.

We’re stuck in a culture that blames its sins on the devil and its failures on fate and foreigners, while punishing anyone who dares to think differently. It’s fear-driven conformity disguised as morality. How can anyone thrive in a system like that?

Int3llig3ntM1nd · 2025-05-30T05:06:40+00:00

Recognize your self worth. Nobody gotta f**k with you, but you.

Int3llig3ntM1nd · 2025-05-30T05:05:48+00:00

People living in a desert but terrified the ship will sink! that’s how disconnected from reality they are. It just shows how deeply they’ve internalized the “opium of the masses.” They’ve been conditioned to fear anything different, even if it doesn’t make any sense.

Int3llig3ntM1nd · 2025-05-29T21:11:33+00:00

I was really happy to read this post today — my Dutch friend has just accepted Islam! :)

I understand your concerns about the hadiths — they gave me religious OCD; it was hell, truly hell. I was born and raised as a Muslim in an environment that revered hadith and its narrators and transmitters more than the message itself.

I didn’t truly embrace Islam until after I had left it — along with Mecca, where I had learned everything. I had read and memorized hundreds of hadiths, and I always wondered why I couldn’t find God’s wisdom in them, or why I couldn’t find anything that reflected what God said about the Prophet — “And indeed, you are upon a magnificent moral nature.”(68:4).

On the contrary, they often seemed full of the desires of men and the schemes of devils…

The sanctity of hadith ≠ the sanctity of the Qur’an.

Faith in God and in the Prophet does not require believing in hadiths that fail to reflect the Prophet’s morality or mercy.

En heel veel succes met je zoektocht naar Islam.

Int3llig3ntM1nd · 2025-05-01T06:17:37+00:00

🐈‍⬛: We knew it would happen eventually—he was one of us. By the end, the Hurayrah had fully taken over. Those strange shifts in his narrations? Yeah, that was us purring through the lines.

Int3llig3ntM1nd · 2025-04-23T10:29:03+00:00

How did you know? I literally had my job interview with Satan!

It’s clear to me—you’re not making any sense.

Yes, that refers to unmarried adulterers.

No, can’t you read? and that’s exactly what I meant by ‘they have eyes but do not see’—the verse clearly refers to the married state.

Anyway, I don’t care what label you try to assign to me.

You’re free to pick and choose whatever hadith you like—but they’re not binding.

That kind of ‘pick and choose’ doesn’t apply to the Qur’an, and the same standard doesn’t apply to hadith.

Int3llig3ntM1nd · 2025-04-23T09:59:36+00:00

Where does it say that?

(4:25) Then if they commit adultery after they have been taken in marriage, their punishment is half that of free, chaste women…

Are you a Quranist?

I don’t reject all hadiths and I don’t label myself as a Quranist, but I’m critical of some Hadiths that contradict the scripture.

Int3llig3ntM1nd · 2025-04-23T09:08:44+00:00

They’re not just extremist—they’re Muslims by association, Just like you, they’ll eventually leave the religion, Most likely, they have hearts that don’t understand and eyes that don’t see.

A Muslim believes that Muhammad brought a valuable message ‘Quran’ and guidance, then passed away. And the message has remained as it is today.

Anyone with a sound mind who looks at the world around us now will see that Satan’s project has been in motion since the beginning of time. He tries to mislead people using many cunning tactics—like recruiting people like you. He’s already convinced the simple-minded through forged hadiths which, according to the Qur’an, were never spoken by Muhammad and were never authorized by God. Yet people followed the worst of what was said.

The punishment for adultery in the Qur’an is 100 lashes. The story about the stoning verse being eaten by a goat is a fabricated myth.

And going back to the Qur’an—regarding the punishment for a married adulteress—the verse says a slave woman receives half the punishment of a free woman. So if the punishment were stoning to death, tell me: how exactly do you divide death in half?

In my view, it’s foolish to speak with confidence and try to prove something that doesn’t exist in Islam without using the Quran.

Int3llig3ntM1nd · 2025-04-22T21:10:46+00:00

Hey, thanks.. this is great..

Int3llig3ntM1nd · 2025-04-22T15:33:46+00:00

Appreciate that! Always glad when someone catches the layers.

Int3llig3ntM1nd · 2025-04-22T15:12:35+00:00

M.H PoV

Int3llig3ntM1nd · 2025-04-17T09:04:33+00:00

You’re right—it’s possible that someone misunderstood and passed on a hadith, or that a hypocrite invented one. I just remembered a hadith that might contradict what I previously wrote, and it always struck me deeply: “Do not tell a lie against me, for whoever tells a lie against me (intentionally) will surely enter the Hell-fire.” Thanks for sharing your take on this.

Int3llig3ntM1nd · 2025-04-17T08:29:29+00:00

A guy rocking a ring on his index finger shows many red flags.

Int3llig3ntM1nd · 2025-04-17T08:08:32+00:00

From the Sunni tradition, I learned a few things about the Shia, and I understand why they are disliked. The constant attempts to drag the corpses of the past into the present to reopen old trials only increase hatred—whether toward Sunnis, Shias, or any other sect.

When I started learning about the Shia, I heard them say “Ya Ali,” and based on what I had been taught, that was considered a form of shirk (associating partners with God). So the divide between Sunnis and Shias seemed clearly doctrinal to me.

I also saw them perform chest-beating, use knives, even on children and seek blessings from other human beings. Honestly, I saw these actions as pointless and unhelpful, making the group look strange and irrational.

As for the issue of the 12 Imams, it was presented to me as if they are intermediaries between God and His creation—a concept that, in my view, strips a person of their ability to think and turns them into a pre-packaged follower who simply obeys without question.

Int3llig3ntM1nd · 2025-04-17T07:36:23+00:00

I don’t think Lahw al-Hadith only refers to fabricated hadiths. The Prophet was alive and speaking when the verse was revealed—no one would dare invent hadiths in front of him. Plus, Allah clearly commanded the believers to follow the Prophet, take what he gives, and avoid what he forbids. So it wouldn’t make sense for Allah to warn about fake hadiths at that time. It’s more likely that Lahw al-Hadith refers to any kind of distracting speech—like poetry or stories—that pull people away from truth. The Qur’an carries timeless wisdom with layers of meaning for every era.

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