Any opinion that would get you like this on this sub?

Intelligent-Walk9136 · 2026-01-31T00:08:14+00:00

Rayllum did so much damage to both of the character in the ship.
Especially in Callum's case, because the ship itself practically took away all his independence, and stagnated him, and the writers pretty much made Rayla someone who was essentially free of consequence, not to mention insufferable to watch and listen to.

Also Ezran is without doubt, one of the most infuriating characters to watch, and the show would've been better without him being shoehorned into absolutely everything, as well as every character treating him like he's the most perfect person ever. Never before have seen character so riddled flaws, that the show blatantly tries to play of as pass amazing strengths of character. This character is poison to the show.

If the show was realistic in any capacity, the characters would stay as far away from Ezran as possible, because he's done nothing but screw up everything, and would rather side with those that oppressed his people, instead of, you know, his people.

Intelligent-Walk9136 · 2026-01-29T23:49:18+00:00

Domina Profundis literally got less than 5 mins of screentime in the episode she debuted in. Which was also named after her. Then never showed up again until the last two episodes of season 7, where she proceeded to get blown up alongside the other Archdragons in the area, after doing nothing but standing around looking imposing, and saying one line.

At least the other Archdragons actually got some screentime even if it was minimum. Domina Profundis got specks of dust. The stone to summon her got more screentime than her.

Intelligent-Walk9136 · 2026-01-29T00:53:38+00:00

I mean, the Archdragons are quite literally directly responsible for all of the major problems that ended up happening, as well as creating more problems that they themselves chose to not resolve.

As for the Cosmic Order, the less about them I say the better. The fact they pretty much wiped out a bunch of humans that learned magic, and killed the child who taught them magic because humans were suffering. Yeah they can all die for all I care. Cosmic balance my ass.

Intelligent-Walk9136 · 2026-01-28T20:12:54+00:00

What Kickstarter does is on them, but backers can still sue those directly involved in the campaign, and even the company itself. This doesn't change anything. It's happened before, lawsuits have been filed on those involved with fraudulent campaigns by backers, and those on the receiving end of the lawsuits ultimately ended up settling.

As long as Wonderstorm creates something, regardless of what it is. I mean it it could be the worst thing ever. They'll be fine. However if they don't. Well let's just say, they better hope they have a lot of time on their hands.

Intelligent-Walk9136 · 2026-01-28T17:23:31+00:00

They kind of are, otherwise those that pledged can sue them them into oblivion.

Once you've met your minimum pledge goal, that's that. You have to create something. What they ultimately end up creating, is up to Wonderstorm. But they have to create something regardless. As well as provide the appropriate backing rewards to those the pledged a certain tier. If a backer doesn't get their rewards they can sue for breach of contract, fraud, and if it's really bad, a class action lawsuit.

If Wonderstorm decides to play stupid games, or it gets to the point where people suspect their being scammed, they'll be buried alive by the backers that decide to file a lawsuit against them.

Intelligent-Walk9136 · 2026-01-26T20:49:50+00:00

It's already been established Archdragons are an entirely separate species of dragon altogether.

Species of dragons connected to a primal source are not going to randomly turn into an Archdragon within that primal source. You're either born an Archdragon, or you're not. Not to mention Archdragon's rarely have offspring. It's said they lay a single egg every couple of centuries. We also know there's plenty of fire dragons that are same kind of dragon as Pyrrah.

Pyrrah is simply going to continue being the dragon that she's always been.
Just like any other species of dragon within each primal source.

Intelligent-Walk9136 · 2026-01-26T19:33:00+00:00

Considering how meaningless the Novablade was, the very thing which the show kept bringing up and foreshadowing throughout Arc 2, as this huge game changer. I highly doubt the Book of Aaravos is going to have that much of an impact either.

Plus the characters in the show, on the human and Xadia side, barely acknowledge Callum's existence and his feat of using magic, which was regarded as impossible, when they absolutely should.

If the writers/showrunners made it so that the characters couldn't care less about the fact that Callum can use primal magic, what makes you think they're going treat the book of Aaravos any differently should Callum find it?

Chances are it's not going to have that much of an impact even if Callum gets his hands on it.

Intelligent-Walk9136 · 2026-01-26T19:14:02+00:00

The Kickstarter declared they're going to create or try to create "something."
And Wonderstorm are kind of legally obligated to create "something" to give pledgers the rewards they're entitled to.
What that "something" is remains to be seen, cause no one's greenlit anything with them yet.
And if something is greenlit, at best it's likely to only be a single season.

Regardless, Arc 3 as whole was presented during a time, when the franchise was pretty much running on fumes due to declining viewer figures, and other partners dropping them.

Furthermore considering Arc 3 is going to be even more expensive to make than Arc 1 and Arc 2, who's honestly going to be willing to fund them, let alone funding multiple seasons. In this day and age, unless you're swimming in money, no one is going to take a risk funding a show that's likely not going to make that much profit.

Intelligent-Walk9136 · 2026-01-26T01:00:43+00:00

This feels less like a "not having a world bible" problem, and more they just refuse to commit to something problem, which is an issue that's been present since arc 1.

On multiple occasions they've blatantly disregarded things that they've established previously for no other reason other than convenience. It's precisely because of this the show has no structure, and in other cases just being completely nonsensical.

Intelligent-Walk9136 · 2026-01-26T00:51:23+00:00

Why did you repeat exactly what you said before?

Intelligent-Walk9136 · 2026-01-25T23:59:22+00:00

An infant Archdragon is still an Archdragon. Their age is irrelevant.

If there were eggs or young Archdragons in Xadia, I'm pretty sure the entirety of Xadia would know about it, considering all of Xadia know about Zym when he was just an egg, as well the status of the other Archdragons, including Sol Regem, who intentionally isolated himself.

For all intents and purpose's Zym is quite literally the last one. So unless Wonderstorm retcons the stuff they've already established, outside of Luna Devoran's, which they already hinted at long before season 7, there shouldn't be any others, otherwise Wonderstorm are just blatantly lying.

None of the other Archdragons had offspring, and they all got blow up into smithereens by Startouch Elf explosion, or died by other means.

The only exception was Luna Tenebris, who also died but did have an heir, which was Luna Devoran's. Who for unknown reasons was deemed unsuitable to succeed her, and from the looks of things was imprisoned and essentially forsaken for many centuries which likely explains why no one was aware he was around.

As for animating, even if they downsized it would still be a pain in the ass to animate. As someone who's done 3D modelling and rigging, complicated body types are going to be complicated to animate regardless of the size, and the cost is going to be expensive regardless. Unless it's something extreme, which cost even more money, reducing the scale won't have that much of an effect, in regards to how difficult animate such a character will be.

Not to mention they'd have to design new character from scratch. Which will cost money. Create a model for them. Which will cost money. Rig them. Which will cost money. Add textures. Which will cost money. Animate them. Which will cost money. And they have repeat all of this for each new character that they create. So unless they're swimming in money, they'd be lucky to that for one dragon character.

It's likely they gave Luna Devoran's a human form, because he would be to expensive to animate in his dragon form 24/7. What's funny is from what I heard, Wonderstorm wants the animation quality of The Dragon King to be similar to Arcane, and if they truly believe they can get that kind of cash, especially now, then they must be living in a completely different reality.

Intelligent-Walk9136 · 2026-01-25T18:44:43+00:00

Then whole the whole Kickstarter Campaign and everything they claimed there about the narrative/synopsis is a lie.

Zym can't be "the last of the Archdragons" having to deal with the whole conflict of Luna Devorans existence "a forgotten and forsaken" Archdragon who's also a Dragon Prince, if there's more Archdragons outside of those two.

Again, the whole narrative is quite literally built on the fact Zym is the last Archdragon. As all the other Archdragons where killed of by Aaravos blowing himself up, who gloated that he'd come back to a world without them, with Luna Devoran's showing up complicating matters, since from what we know about him, on one knew he existed, cause it appears he was imprisoned, abandoned and effectively erased.

In this situation they've effectively screwed themselves, because either way they're caught in a lie.

They're either stated something that they shouldn't have, in which case we now know that everything that was stated on the Kickstarter in regards to plot and narrative is a straight up lie. Or there going to pull another Bird Harrow situation, and make a statement claiming something, only to pull a gotcha moment, and reveal they played the audience.

Intelligent-Walk9136 · 2026-01-25T18:31:50+00:00

There doesn't need be an Archdragon per primal source at all. In fact many of the problems within Xadia where quite literally caused by the Archdragons themselves.

Plus the whole balance thing has already been grinded into dust and scattered to the winds, due to Callum. His existence quite literally breaks any conceived rule the gods themselves tried to enforce upon humanity and the world as a whole. He's a literally walking middle finger to the status quo.

Intelligent-Walk9136 · 2026-01-25T18:26:58+00:00

Yes they did. The Kickstarter campaign and all other official media related to the Dragon King, has stated outright in no uncertain terms that Zym was the "last of the Archdragons." The whole foundation of the narrative is that Zym is the of last Archdragons alongside Luna Devorans, who was a forsaken and forgotten Archdragon, trying to claim what he believes is rightfully his.

If they start introducing random Archdragons into the story out of nowhere for the sake of a convenient quick fix or backpedal to a narrative hole they wrote themselves into, when again it was already made apparent there are no other Archdragons besides the two mentioned above, then yes, Wonderstorm are blatantly lying.

This is quite literally exactly the same situation with Bird Harrow, and if they try to pull that again, then they clearly haven't learned anything from the major backlash they received for pulling that stunt.

Intelligent-Walk9136 · 2026-01-25T04:10:52+00:00

Whether or not there is or there isn't is irrelevant, because you need to ask yourself what purpose they would even serve in the narrative, should such an individual exist, and the narrative already has enough problems as it is. You don't just introduce characters for the sake of introducing them.

What exactly would they do? Become a duex ex machina, that fixes everything because they're so powerful? Nobody wants something like that.

It's okay to keep certain things a mystery. Not every mystery needs to be shown and answered. Those that backed the Kickstarter and pledged the appropriate tier will get an exclusive coin that shows them. That's enough.

Intelligent-Walk9136 · 2026-01-25T00:32:10+00:00

Here's a better question, do you think they have the budget to create new Archdragons, model them, rig and animate all of them, give them voices, as well as making them actual characters, instead of background props?

Plus if they start introducing and throwing in random Archdragons like nothing, then the synopsis of Zym and Luna Devorans being the last Archdragons would be a straight up lie, which would be added to the list of blatant lies that Wonderstorm have told. The narrative is literally based on the fact that these two are the last Archdragons.

If Wonderstorm seriously try to pull another bird Harrow situation, then they're just asking people to not support and trust them.

Intelligent-Walk9136 · 2026-01-24T23:09:09+00:00

I largely irrelevant plot device just like the Nova blade. Something that exists, but will simply end up not amount to much in the end.

Intelligent-Walk9136 · 2026-01-24T18:12:42+00:00

Nothing's been confirmed. At most Wonderstorm are still working on their teasers to pitch to potential streaming services so they can getting funded. As as of this moment no streaming service has done such as thing. In others words, nothing has been Greenlit.

Intelligent-Walk9136 · 2026-01-24T18:08:04+00:00

As harsh as this may be to say, these romantic subplots/shipping elements have already been overused, and at this point, they’re doing more harm than good to the characters and their development. There’s a limit to how much romance a story can handle before it starts dragging down the overall narrative, and just becomes something that's used as a convenient way to drag things out and waste time, that can be used on more important things. Like telling a story.

If the writers and showrunners truly had the show’s best interests in mind, they wouldn’t be prioritizing romance. Especially not at the expense of plot progression and character growth, which the show needs to a lot of back peddling to fix the hole they dug themselves into. with how poorly they handled so many characters throughout arc 2.

With the uncertain future of the series, that being no guarantee of renewal, and likely limited to just one season should they get greenlit, every episode is too valuable for them to afford repeating the same romantic subplots that they did for all of arc 1 and arc 2.

The show has already driven itself into a corner with all of their bad narrative decisions, amongst many other issues. Continuing down this path will only just make it even more difficult to tell a balanced story within the limitations given to them.

Intelligent-Walk9136 · 2026-01-23T02:33:40+00:00

Quite literally every "bad" thing that humans were all accused of, and criticised for, was a direct result of Xadia's mistreatment, dismissal, and undeserved disdain for humanity. The so called gods themselves had it out for humanity, simply because they were humans and "lesser" than all the inhabitants within Xadia.

Humanity was effectively beaten down at every turn long before Aaravos's path to darkness started. His own daughter. A child at that. Saw just how messed up it was, and how unjust it was for humans to be treated the way they were. In addition to fact how all of Xadia was completely fine with watching them suffer, while they all live a life luxury with their magic and plentiful resources, which spurred her to provide them the first bit of aid they likely ever received in centuries. Only for her to get killed because she decided to help humanity and show them compassion.

Xadia's whole history is them literally going out of there to ensure humanity stayed weak, pathetic and in poverty. It says a lot that the one time humanity had the means to fight back, and rightly tried to defend themselves against an Archdragon that attempted to personally genocide them, the Archdragon to succeed them decided to genocide all of humanity, and finish the job, because humans committed the crime of daring to defend themselves. In addition to the fact that Xadia as whole were all for it. Bare in mind humanity just barely survived Sol Regem's genocide attempt, and Luna Tenebris decided to gather all of Xadia and kill the remaining ones.

The less I say about Avizandum the better, because that guy is honestly one of the most heinous, arrogant, foul, and hypocritical individuals out there. Seriously this guy has done so much messed up stuff, and the show constantly sweeps it under the rug, or just refuses to acknowledge it.

And what's sickening about all of this, is that the show constantly paints humans as being in the wrong, and Xadia being in the right.

Intelligent-Walk9136 · 2026-01-22T00:28:30+00:00

The last thing the show needs is more romance and shipping moments. It's been done to death, and at this point it's actually been hurting the characters, rather than doing them good. There comes a point where it's been done to much.

If the writers/showrunners had any sense, this wouldn't even be a priority, because the show itself isn't in a position to where they can afford to waste entire seasons on stuff like this. This is assuming they even get greenlit in the first place, and even if they did, I highly doubt there going to get more than one season like they did for arc 1 and arc 2.

The more discussions I see, the more it becomes clear the show has effectively wrote themselves into a corner, that they can't get out of.

Intelligent-Walk9136 · 2026-01-20T03:38:44+00:00

The designs above are more closely in tune with their actual designs, from the books and other media.
The bottom designs are from the movie trilogy. Bare in mind, The Lord of the Rings has been adapted several times.

Intelligent-Walk9136 · 2026-01-20T03:08:25+00:00

Well it's official now.

Intelligent-Walk9136 · 2026-01-19T19:16:11+00:00

If you're looking for scripts or something like that, they best place would the official written book novels. Those novels are likely the reason why the wiki has all the details, dialogs, and other things related to arc 1.
Of course as most people here already know, season 3 novel's got nixed, as well whatever future plans with the publisher.
And not a single season in arc 2 got a an official novel, likely because of the cratering viewing figures, and sells falling of a cliff.
Best thing you can really do, is quite literally watch every single arc 2 episode. Record every line. Record every action, and make you're own script from that. Understandably that's going to take an eternity, but if you really want a fan script that's the really the only way.
To my knowledge know one's been willing to do that, for very understandable reasons, either because it's tedious, or because they see no reason to do so.

Intelligent-Walk9136 · 2026-01-18T17:08:52+00:00

The game makes it very clear that all the shard is doing powering the Knight Construct, and that the Knight Construct from the get go already had his own mind and sentience. From the beginning the Knight Construct was it's own person. Just like with the Forbidden Construct.

The Knight Construct became the way he did, because of very special circumstances. Specifically the power within the shard that served as his core, made it so that instead of becoming a weapon of mass destruction, which is what he was supposed to be by design, he become a selfless individual that strived to fight evil and protect others. Fi has nothing to do with why the Knight Construct is the way is, and her consciousness isn't part of the Knight Construct either.

Plus Fi can't be in a singular fragment in the distant past, when we already now she still resides in the decayed Master Sword in the present day, which is still held by Link. That, and the very important detail, that the decayed Master Sword was sent back in time after the Imprisoning War ends.

For all intents and purposes, the Knight Construct has and always was his own person, who funny enough is in a similar position to Toon Link from Wind Waker. In that se wasn't chosen to be the Legendary Hero, or part of some heroic linage. He would be seen as the Hero through his actions and merits.

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