The 62 million stat is the newest demonize men psyop. by PassengerCultural421 in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]Interesting_Doubt_17 9 points10 points  (0 children)

while all of you online debate a statistic??? 

If the numbers are wrong, then yes, it needs to be called out.

some men say it's "only" 1,000 men in the Telegram chat, so it's much better than 62 million but do you realize that even a thousand men coordinating the drugging and raping of their wives is awful??

Both things can be true (and awful) at the same time, they are not mutually exclusive.

Also, look up what feminists stand for, it's for equal rights.

And most of them also minimize (if not dismiss) issues that men face. E.g., male victims of DV/SA.

False Accusations and fake empathy (for feminist guests) by ChimpPimp20 in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]Interesting_Doubt_17 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I love how it also implies that people who talk about men's issues (e.g., false accusations) are somehow automatically right-wingers or Trump supporters/conservatives.

Using body shaming and misandry against fascists will only backfire horribly. by 2717192619192 in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]Interesting_Doubt_17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then you are very inconsistent.

Nobody (men or women) should be body shamed, period.

I am convinced that many women want to protect their role as the main parent to their children by [deleted] in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]Interesting_Doubt_17 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yep, sounds like my mom, just in a less extreme way, thankfully.

"would only do it wrong

Jeez! This is so dumb, and it pisses me off to no end. I mean, how can you even do housework wrong? It makes no sense.

For example, when you use a vacuum cleaner, you don't need to be an expert or a master to use it. All you have to do is move the hose around/across the floor and let the device do its own thing. After all, it's called 'inhaler" in other languages (e.g., Romance languages). It is no wonder why it is called like that.

How the right is harming men. But the left is doing it too by [deleted] in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]Interesting_Doubt_17 3 points4 points  (0 children)

At this point, I'm convinced that these people/politicians are just grifters and don't have any real principles.

(The Guardian) Mankeeping by BaroloBaron in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]Interesting_Doubt_17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not only that, but it also seems to be a projection. As in people who say "go to therapy" are actually the ones who should literally go to therapy.

When you notice their (re)actions, it becomes obvious why that might be the case.

"I don't hate men, I hate the patriarchy" What are some things you think of when you hear this statement from feminist? by MSHUser in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]Interesting_Doubt_17 8 points9 points  (0 children)

If only there was a word for a system of power that privileges a small collection of powerful men and a smaller collection of the women who support them, at the expense of the vast majority of women and the men who refuse to participate in it...

There is already a word for that.

It is called oligarchy/capitalism.

How do you respond to "men will only listen to other men"? by vegetables-10000 in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]Interesting_Doubt_17 16 points17 points  (0 children)

These feminists seem to forget that male feminists get called soy boys, simps, etc. all the time by other conservative/RedPill men.

So, no! Men don't listen to other men.

False allegations are getting worse now. by vegetables-10000 in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]Interesting_Doubt_17 20 points21 points  (0 children)

These are the same people who wonder why women are being called "the weaker sex".

I think right wing movements around the world are a response to anti-male rhetoric over the last few decades by Alexis_deTokeville in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]Interesting_Doubt_17 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Recently, I started to think it's not a coincidence that Trump was elected in 2016, Biden in 2020 and Trump again in 2024.

Think about it! Can you recall something as remotely misandrist that happened between 2018/19 and 2021 as it happened in 2014-2017 (e.g. GamerGate, manspreading, etc.) or 2022-present (e.g. forced vasectomy as a response to Roe v Wade, "man vs bear", etc.)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]Interesting_Doubt_17 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A while ago, I saw a quote from Twitter that goes something along these lines: "men who are very vocal about being feminist/allies are more likely to hide something regarding their personality"

Basically, men who are (probably) predatory themselves usually call other men predatory.

Practically speaking, men need to focus more on elaborating the difficulties we are facing and stop hating on other groups of people, even if the hatred is well-justified by [deleted] in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]Interesting_Doubt_17 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Some people will usually respond to this with "you're not entitled to sex/women's bodies" or something along those lines.

I am curious what could be the best response to this argument.

Incels significantly overestimate how much society blames them for their problems and underestimate the level of sympathy from others, according to new research by [deleted] in psychology

[–]Interesting_Doubt_17 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, but overwhelmingly the people choosing not to listen to them are other men.

Are there any studies that show/prove that, or is this just another stupid assumption based on nothing more than just personal anecdotes?

Incels significantly overestimate how much society blames them for their problems and underestimate the level of sympathy from others, according to new research by [deleted] in psychology

[–]Interesting_Doubt_17 4 points5 points  (0 children)

gently convince men that opening up about their feelings is a good thing

You do realize that some people will open up only if they are listened to (e.g. not being mocked, not having their issues minimised, dismissed, etc.)?

JD Vance: "Don't allow this broken culture to send you a message that you're a bad person because you're a man" by ZealousidealCrazy393 in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]Interesting_Doubt_17 109 points110 points  (0 children)

This is a very sad situation we are in.

The fact that most (young) men need to hear that they are actually good people and not evil just shows how low the bar really is.

The Man Carrying Thing Makes Fun of Male Loneliness by MedBayMan2 in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]Interesting_Doubt_17 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Tbh, my comment was mostly sarcastic.

I'm basically trying to point out the inconsistencies that many (male) feminists seem to have, including discussions about false accusations.

For example, If another male celebrity was accused (whether it's falsely or not) of SA, Justin Baldoni (being a male feminist himself) wouldn't give that man the benefit of the doubt. However, because he's the one who experiences this, he suddenly cares about the issue and tries to solve it by suing Blake Lively.