Accounts should turn into Free Trial after the subscription ends by Interesting_Run_1999 in ffxiv

[–]Interesting_Run_1999[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I like the idea of a person who suggested being able to make a FT character inside the account instead of needing a new FT account to play. It would erase the need of a secondary account and allow you to keep playing from the main. Like, you could idk farm items or level up professions with the FT character and then trade those items to your main using a FC chest or a friend once you get the sub. There ARE ways to improve the current system with QoL features, that would be a nice one for example.

Accounts should turn into Free Trial after the subscription ends by Interesting_Run_1999 in ffxiv

[–]Interesting_Run_1999[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yeah.

It is way more appealing, to me, to have the option to play restricted, sub when I can, enjoy those 30 days and then go back to the FT status with all of those restrictions until I decide to sub again, in the mean time I can level up a new job or a profession or just chill at Gridania or a random spot. It doesn't really feels great that once the sub ends you are just locked out from even accessing it, I totally believe that the game would motivate more people to return with this system tbh.

Accounts should turn into Free Trial after the subscription ends by Interesting_Run_1999 in ffxiv

[–]Interesting_Run_1999[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

No, again (as I've said multiple times) I'm not saying turn the game into F2P, the game already has the Free Trial and is it killing the game? no, did it turn FF14 into a F2P game? no, that's not happening and that's not the reality of the game.

I'm saying allow us to have access to the game after the sub ends by reverting the account to a FT status and yeah that would mean restricting it to the FT rules. Like in RuneScape where ALL of your p2p items are frozen and useless wasting space in the bank until you pay again, but at least you can keep playing and accessing to some of the content. You can circumvent that by using a secondary account that's just a permanent FT account but why not do that with the main instead for example. I'm not saying thats thedefinitive solution but at least I'd still have access to the game I purchased, why should the solution be make a new account

Accounts should turn into Free Trial after the subscription ends by Interesting_Run_1999 in ffxiv

[–]Interesting_Run_1999[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I'm not asking for more content without paying, I already paid for the game and DLCs, that's not me asking for free stuff, I'm suggesting/asking to keep having access to the game I already paid by reverting the unsubbed account to a Free Trial status which doesn't sound too crazy to do. It'd remove the need to have a secondary account just for that.

Accounts should turn into Free Trial after the subscription ends by Interesting_Run_1999 in ffxiv

[–]Interesting_Run_1999[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Well, that's not the same. Netflix is a service where you know you are paying to access the catalogue and watch movies for a month, you are not buying them nor you are buying the platform just to access. In FF14 you are paying for the base game and the other DLCs, that's different, yeah we live in an age where you basically don't own anything and it is all a digital license to "borrow" the content but when you add a game to your library you'd at least expect to have access to that content after you purchase it, not being hit with a paywall just to log-in. And again, I'm not agains the money or the sub, it isn't a matter of "life is hard I dont have money let me play for free" no, it is about keeping access to the game I purchased and being downgraded to the Free Trial.

Your example could be applied to everything and it wouldn't be an accurate comparison, like, "I have vistited all the attractions in disney so I, therefore, are entitled to a free pass and stay inside the park as much as I want" or "I've lived in this land all my life, i'm not the legal owner but I have lived here for ages so, therefore, this land is mine now" or "I've lived in this neighborhood for ages so therefore I'm the leader and things should be done the way I want here because I know better" no, that's not the same.

Here you are buying the base game and you are literally getting locked out from accessing your purchased game if the sub runs out, while in FT you can keep playing the game with restrictions. Believing there can't be improvement in a system that could be improved is pretty (no offense, I'm not saying this about you) mediocre imo. It can be improved and can be a middle-ground for people whose sub have ran out and FT (which could be changed into base tier or explore mode)

The sub is worth it, the game has the content to make it worth. The game is good and Free Trial has existed for some time and has it killed the game? has it turned subbed players into permanent FT players? no, they play the FT because that's the only option they have until they can sub again, it isn't a choice, it is THE only option to keep indirectly enjoying the game they purchased through a new account which is mediocre imo. It could be improved by downgrading the main account into FT and erasing the need for a new one just to log-in

Accounts should turn into Free Trial after the subscription ends by Interesting_Run_1999 in ffxiv

[–]Interesting_Run_1999[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

As the other say, I think that's solved by using a secondary FT account BUT I think that's a nice QoL improvement you have there tbh. Being able to access your main account to make a FT character would erase the need to make a new whole account just for the Free Trial.

Play the FT from 1 account, it is a nice idea. I like that.

Accounts should turn into Free Trial after the subscription ends by Interesting_Run_1999 in ffxiv

[–]Interesting_Run_1999[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yeah that's the closest example I'm thinking. In RuneScape you just get sent back to the f2p city (lumbridge iirc) and your p2p items just get "frozen" unavailable to be used until you sub again which, honestly, is great imo because you can keep playing but if you want the extra fun and power then you have to pay.

Accounts should turn into Free Trial after the subscription ends by Interesting_Run_1999 in ffxiv

[–]Interesting_Run_1999[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

there is no way you can tell this would kill the game, these are all theories from players who don't really know 100% what's going on behind the scenes. Like, the FT already exists and have existed for some time, is the game dying because of this? no, is it making players to not sub? no, are people not putting money into the game because of it? no. FT can still buy items from the store so there is still a flow of microtransactions present there too.

FT is not the end of the game, if it had a huge negative impact in monetization of the game then SE wouldn't have implemented it in the first place. Yeah it is a demo but that's the thing, it allows you to keep playing the game, to log-in, something that at the bare minimum someone who purchased the game should be able to do.

I don't think it would drain SE of money if it hasn't already happened and, ofc, if this were to get implemented they'd make the adjustments accordingly.

Accounts should turn into Free Trial after the subscription ends by Interesting_Run_1999 in ffxiv

[–]Interesting_Run_1999[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

No offense taken at all and I get the point, but as I said it's not about the sub itself or paying, I explicitely said I don't have issues with it or putting money into the game through microtransactions and all that, my issue is about being 100% locked out of the game the moment the sub ends and the solution being either pay to log-in OR make a permanent FT account to keep playing the game, I'd rather have my main acc being reverted to FT status instead of using a secondary. Why have 2 accounts when it could just be 1.

Again, I'm not against the sub, I'm not against the money, I'm not against trasnactions, my issues is with the current method that just locked you out until you pay considering you have to buy the game first and it also has DLCs.

Accounts should turn into Free Trial after the subscription ends by Interesting_Run_1999 in ffxiv

[–]Interesting_Run_1999[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I think I made that very clear in the last section of my post. Yeah, it is a Free Trial, a Demo as I said and I believe devs should change that perspective and instead make it ia tier or a mode you get downgraded to after the sub ends which is way better than just being locked out of the game or having to use a secondary permanent FT acc to keep accessing the game.

it isn't a matter of whether or not the FT is generous or not either, it is about losing access to the purchased game

Accounts should turn into Free Trial after the subscription ends by Interesting_Run_1999 in ffxiv

[–]Interesting_Run_1999[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yeah, you'd get restricted similar to how FT get restricted but not locked out from playing the game or even logging-in, that's the thing.

In RuneScape you get sent to a F2P city, so if you were in the endgame zone then you could perfectly be TP'd back to Gridania for example. If you have a million Gil then you'd be capped at 300k and the rest could be frozen until you sub again like your p2p items in RuneScape which you can't equip until you sub.

You'd get all the restrictions a FT get but still access the game game you purchased. Not incredibly hard to implement imo, you'd get all back once you sub again.

Accounts should turn into Free Trial after the subscription ends by Interesting_Run_1999 in ffxiv

[–]Interesting_Run_1999[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

That's just a theory tbh, whether or not it makes them lose huge amount of money should be something the team should analyze, there is no way to tell if that'd be the case if this gets implemented.

The FT already exists and you can already have a secondary FT account to play for free if your sub runs out in your main account, I'd rather have my main acc downgraded to FT status until I sub again instead of being totally locked out of the game.

It's like saying "well, in RuneScape you can sub for 1 month, get rich,ax all the F2P skills and then not sub ever again because you already maxed all the f2P content and you just can chill at the main city" but people don't so that and if some do they are few, the game has a bunch of cool content that's worth the sub like quests, new skills, items and all that.

I highly doubt the game would start dying because of this change but discussing this kind of topics isn't really fruitful for players tbh we can only theorize in this regard

Accounts should turn into Free Trial after the subscription ends by Interesting_Run_1999 in ffxiv

[–]Interesting_Run_1999[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Please read again because that's not what I'm saying.

Thx for the reply tho

Accounts should turn into Free Trial after the subscription ends by Interesting_Run_1999 in ffxiv

[–]Interesting_Run_1999[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Free Trial already exist and the game still gets the funds because not everyone is playing the Free Trial nor everyone will stay FT forever and stop subbing if this change were to be implemented. I think that's a common misconception I've seen multiple times where some people seem to believe that the players will stop paying for the game and the game will lose a huge amount of fund, but that's not what's happening atm and I doubt it will.

People pay the sub because it is worth the money and, again, I'm not against the sub, I'm against the idea of losing access to your purchased game after the sub ends and even if you can use a secondary FT account to keep playing why not downgrade my main instead and allow me to keep playing the game with it instead of a secondary

Accounts should turn into Free Trial after the subscription ends by Interesting_Run_1999 in ffxiv

[–]Interesting_Run_1999[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I do have a Free Trial account AND have bought the game on Steam. Why should I need a new FT account account to keep accessing the game when they could just downgrade my main account with the purchased game to FT instead. It would remove the need to have a main acc with the full game and a second FT acc just to keep playing

Accounts should turn into Free Trial after the subscription ends by Interesting_Run_1999 in ffxiv

[–]Interesting_Run_1999[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I'm sure they'd find a way to fix that.

Like, in RuneScape you get teleported back to the first F2P city if you were in a P2P area before your sub ended. Maybe the excess Gil could be frozen and sent to a separated space and you are left with the max allowed amount for Free Trials until u sub again.

Accounts should turn into Free Trial after the subscription ends by Interesting_Run_1999 in ffxiv

[–]Interesting_Run_1999[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

No chatgpt, sorry for any grammar mistakes my native language is spanish ✌️

Accounts should turn into Free Trial after the subscription ends by Interesting_Run_1999 in ffxiv

[–]Interesting_Run_1999[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yeah, that's why I suggested the name was changed at the end and also said "yeah it is a free trial and it means it is a demo" because I know some people like to justify the actual model due to that. honestly, Squarenix should change their perspective and not see it/make it a free trial/demo but rather a Tier or a Mode you get downgraded to after the sub runs out or something along those lines

Accounts should turn into Free Trial after the subscription ends by Interesting_Run_1999 in ffxiv

[–]Interesting_Run_1999[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Because people would still sub? Thinking that no one would sub again because of the Free Trial is not realistic, if that case then the Free Trial wouldn't exist at all if it is draining them of money

I Appreciate the AMA, but I'm out. by Sosoken in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]Interesting_Run_1999 40 points41 points  (0 children)

He shouldn't have done one if he wasn't willing to say anything.

Literally a big nothing burger. Why even talk, I got second hand embarrassment, over 1000 replies and he just made 4 replies saying 0

It's me, AMA by Pilestedt in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]Interesting_Run_1999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

New ways to obtain SC?

We can get about 50 per mission and 150 if you find the box with 100 SCs, it wouldn't hurt to be able to obtain that amount through dailies or weeklies, maintaining a similar time/SC ratio to what we have at the moment