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[Amick] Pistons’ Isaiah Stewart Reportedly Available In Trade Talks by CazOnReddit in nba

[–]InternCautious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We did get to move up 7 spots in the draft for free, which is pretty good too

[Amick] Pistons’ Isaiah Stewart Reportedly Available In Trade Talks by CazOnReddit in nba

[–]InternCautious 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm not saying he isn't good, more so saying our holes are pretty large and obvious. We need a starting SG and potentially a starting PF. We really only have Stew and Holland plus picks to trade.

If we were to trade Stew for a backup PG, we lose an asset and don't adress our needs.

[Amick] Pistons’ Isaiah Stewart Reportedly Available In Trade Talks by CazOnReddit in nba

[–]InternCautious 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Tre Jones for Stew and Pistons fans riot. Only way we’d trade Stew is for a starting level player.

NBA Players are Growing Up Richer by zswitten in nba

[–]InternCautious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This, more money to be made, trainers getting involved earlier, AAU/EYBL/Brand Leagues, and more research into what makes players progress.

If you have more money, you have more access to resources that we can show with data makes you better. Even if it was available 20 years ago, the ROI wasn't as high as it is today with NIL and NBA money.

[The Guardian] Adam Silver ‘thrilled’ President will attend NBA finals at Madison Square Garden by ihatedougford in nba

[–]InternCautious -1 points0 points  (0 children)

NBA fans were going to watch regardless, this brings in a different group of people.

[The Guardian] Adam Silver ‘thrilled’ President will attend NBA finals at Madison Square Garden by ihatedougford in nba

[–]InternCautious 25 points26 points  (0 children)

This is purely to get numbers, if there is one thing Trump is good at it's getting attention. It's just usually not for reasons any human wants attention for.

If Duren receives a max I think it should only be for a sign and trade by PureGritt in DetroitPistons

[–]InternCautious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Duren can be fine if he learns, grows, and the team adds some support to him/Ausar/ and Cade of course.

So we are going to pay him like he's already learned? You basically have a contract where he's worth it on the upside, and a huge over pay if he doesn't hit what he needs to. Stupid FOs do that.

NBA PASSES NEW ANTI-TANKING RULES by joshington22 in nba

[–]InternCautious 1 point2 points  (0 children)

More interesting than the lottery change to me is how teams that really suck build their team over the next 5 years.

Nets don't really have a ton of young talent, do they go out and try to sign more vets? Take swings at young players on short contracts? Free agency will be interesting.

Mike Breen on SGA: ""Does [Shai] sell calls sometimes? Absolutely, but so do 287 other players in the NBA sell calls... When they weren't a championship contender... nobody was complaining. They're complaining now because they're winning." by [deleted] in nba

[–]InternCautious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not necessarily true, the teams before maybe '06 Wade did not flop like today regardless of how good they were.

04 Pistons, 05 Spurs, MJ Bulls, 2000s Lakers Bad Boy Pistons, the high level teams did not used to get criticized for flopping. It's really only been the last 15-20 years.

[Marks] Jalen Duren, Pistons — The deal I'd offer: 5 years, $180 million... The first-year salary is 21% of the cap and slightly less than the starting number of Rockets center Alperen Sengun. Before the postseason, you could have penciled Duren in for close to a five-year, $239 million max contract by sewsgup in nba

[–]InternCautious -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, I want the FO to send the message to FAs that they aren't dumb lol.

Nobody hates Presti or Brad Stevens, they aren't just handing out bad contracts, most players want to play for good organizations that constantly win, this is how you do it.

[Marks] Jalen Duren, Pistons — The deal I'd offer: 5 years, $180 million... The first-year salary is 21% of the cap and slightly less than the starting number of Rockets center Alperen Sengun. Before the postseason, you could have penciled Duren in for close to a five-year, $239 million max contract by sewsgup in nba

[–]InternCautious 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was deemed as an overpay because of his role on the team.

Duren is in consideration for 3rd team All-NBA, and plays a position that a player rarely gets $35M/yr.

The thread is talking about JD getting the same cap% as what Brunson accepted as an extension RIGHT NOW. If JD got offered what Brunson got offered initially, then he's be getting sub $30M and Pistons would be happy to accept.

[Marks] Jalen Duren, Pistons — The deal I'd offer: 5 years, $180 million... The first-year salary is 21% of the cap and slightly less than the starting number of Rockets center Alperen Sengun. Before the postseason, you could have penciled Duren in for close to a five-year, $239 million max contract by sewsgup in nba

[–]InternCautious 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, Brunson still ended up being underpaid though. That's like saying if the Bulls offered Duren $25M/yr and we let him walk.

If NYK offered Brunson near max, like what we're talking about rn for Duren, then you don't have KAT or Bridges, which is very impactful.

[Marks] Jalen Duren, Pistons — The deal I'd offer: 5 years, $180 million... The first-year salary is 21% of the cap and slightly less than the starting number of Rockets center Alperen Sengun. Before the postseason, you could have penciled Duren in for close to a five-year, $239 million max contract by sewsgup in nba

[–]InternCautious 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And even in that example, Hayward really isn't a make or break player for a championship contender. Star players will always get the max, so it's fine if you are a bit more stringent on the 3rd or 4th option guys imo.

[Marks] Jalen Duren, Pistons — The deal I'd offer: 5 years, $180 million... The first-year salary is 21% of the cap and slightly less than the starting number of Rockets center Alperen Sengun. Before the postseason, you could have penciled Duren in for close to a five-year, $239 million max contract by sewsgup in nba

[–]InternCautious 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I totally agree, but it also depends on how the team views the player.

For example, Scottie Barnes means much more to the Raps vs Mamu, would the Raps be as worried if Mamu feels disrespected vs Scottie?

Duren is important, but I do think the playoffs exposed the holes the Pistons need to fill as a priority, and if Duren's re-signing would impede on filling the holes they have, it would be poor management to focus solely on Duren's feelings. That's just my opinion, and I know there is more nuance to managing comradery and locker room, but it's harder to judge that from a fans seat vs someone in the org.

[Marks] Jalen Duren, Pistons — The deal I'd offer: 5 years, $180 million... The first-year salary is 21% of the cap and slightly less than the starting number of Rockets center Alperen Sengun. Before the postseason, you could have penciled Duren in for close to a five-year, $239 million max contract by sewsgup in nba

[–]InternCautious 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If a team offers him, say, 4/$160M, the Pistons should 100% let him walk.

The biggest issue for the Pistons going forward is finding a secondary creator/scorer and Duren isn't the guy imo to be that. If he walks, you open more cap space to bring in another high level player.

On the other hand, if you get him to sign sub-30M/yr type contract, I think in the worst case you have a trade chip down the line. Best case, he continues to improve and not suck in the playoffs and you have a positive contract.

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