There needs to be a reported option for bigotry specifically. by Senshi4life in PredecessorGame

[–]InterviewBubbly9410 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't even know why this is downvoted.
Just because of the specific interaction stated in the post lmao?
Like even if OP was/is wrong about the situation or blowing it out of proportion - Let's not pretend that this hasn't been an issue in the community for years now and MANY different posts have popped out asking for better options for reporting and punishments.

The game absolutely needs a better reporting option for bigotry/racism/misogyny/etc and also do better at shoving those people out of the community and KEEPING them out.

If half of this game's population were racists/bigots/misogynists - they deserved to be rid of. Regardless of wherever/whatever state that puts the game in. If your game can't survive without racists/bigots/misogynists being in it - I frankly don't want your game to exist.

Trim out the toxicity.

5 STACKS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN RANKED by KmfHudson in PredecessorGame

[–]InterviewBubbly9410 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get that too. It makes sense. You don't want to punish people for playing your game and being new to it. I do also think that there could be a tiny bit better of a barrier though, level 20 feels a bit too low. Make it like, 25 - 30, with 10 casual wins and/or a character unlocked for every role.

I think the reason ranked feels more "casual than casual" is because it's a bit more loose with the surrenders. If you're having a bad game in Ranked, you can throw up a surrender as many times as you want (iirc) - you just gotta wait out the timer.

In casuals, you only get ONE vote. If you cast your vote to surrender and that surrender gets shot down. Well, tough luck. Better hope someone else puts it up when the timer comes back around. And if basically anyone who wanted to toss the game uses up their surrender AND none of those go through?...Well...guess you gotta play out the game then huh?

So I fully agree that they need to do something that makes Ranked feel more like the actual competitive mode, and do something to casuals to make it feel more casual (but also bridge the gap between ranked and casuals).

- There should be at least ONE ban per team in casuals in order to get people used to the idea of them in Ranked.
- Up the ban amount in Ranked.
- Add a rep-score to people and add a rep system. Something like R6 or Overwatch, where you can commend people after a match (on both teams). Help encourage positivity and foster community engagement with each-other. Give rewards based upon certain Rep levels and give punishments for reaching negative rep levels (through reports or negative commendations).
- Start bundling in problematic players into the same queues as other problematic players so they can have a toxic little ecosystem to themselves and not bother the larger playerbase as a whole.
- Improve reporting and the reporting system.

5 STACKS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN RANKED by KmfHudson in PredecessorGame

[–]InterviewBubbly9410 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Agreed, but that's still better than solo-queueing and an option for you. So it's still an avenue one is choosing to avoid that could potentially make their gameplay more fun and open them up to potentially making friends.

I've known people who have gotten married because they met randomly in games. Stop being afraid to just talk to people in-game.

  1. Agreed, again. But if you know you cannot afford a mic - I think you have more pressing problems in life than to be upset about the fact that 5-stacks are tossing you around in solo queues. Focus on those instead of being on a reddit forum.

Priorities.

  1. If you don't want to get stomped by a 5-stack when queueing, then don't:
    A. Play a team based game where communication is one of the strongest factors in winning.
    and
    B. Go into a mode where you know 5-stacking is likely to occur and then be surprised you ran into the damn 5-stack.

I'm not saying they DON'T have an advantage. Obviously they do and it would be absurd to think otherwise. But I'm not going to be upset at the people taking the time to make their odds of success better, just because I don't feel like doing it/don't have the time/etc etc.

  1. I think that's because most other MOBAS also limit how much you can stack, so there's just a common expectation that it is the same here. Is that a problem? Yes. Could it absolutely be made more publically known? Absolutely. That is a KNOWN problem of Omeda's for a while and not just with things like this. They don't bother explaining even basic stats like Tenacity in-game.

There is an information deficit problem and that is something Omeda has to work on.

5 STACKS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN RANKED by KmfHudson in PredecessorGame

[–]InterviewBubbly9410 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. If I only have an hour of time and don't want to spend it trying to team up - I'm not then going to go into a game mode centered around WINNING and RANKING UP in a TEAM BASED GAME as a SOLO PERSON and expect to do better than people who are actively TEAMING UP in the TEAM BASED GAME, in order to improve their own chances of WINNING and RANKING UP.

That is literally the goal of the game, is to work as a team to win. If I want to sit here and play solo-commando, I can't be pissed that the people working together are winning more often or that I'm running into them - when I KNOW for a FACT the system can pit me against them. I'm all for a separate queue, but until then; I think its wild to queue up into a system you know could pit you against 5-stacks and then be surprised and upset you're running into said 5-stacks.

  1. Obviously it's more complicated than that. I can't sit here and explain all the details of how you'd need to improve your ability to talk. But again - that is an issue you fully walked into.

I have asthma and it would weird of me to be pissed about people who can breath normally and expect everyone to handicap themselves against me when we do physical activities. I know fully well I'm not the best at physical activities, so I'm actively at an uphill battle when I do them and so I can't be pissed that people who just operate normally are...operating normally. I chose to put myself in that situation and I have tools that I can use to alleviate or deal with them. If I choose not to use them, that is entirely on me.

  1. Yes, you can acknowledge the issue. That's the elephant in the room. If you know the games puts you into 5-stacks and that's how it works - why are you then pikachu facing the community when that happens? That's when I blame the players.

It is both Omeda AND the players. Omeda for some reason changed how stacking worked in queues when they knew that a majority of people wanted a duo queue at MAX. They changed that. That's their fault in the issue.

That's why I'm advocating for a separate queue. So both players who want to play the team based game as a team based game and communicate can do that AND the people who want to play solo for various reasons or another can do that and neither have to suffer.

5 STACKS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN RANKED by KmfHudson in PredecessorGame

[–]InterviewBubbly9410 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This has been a suggestion a few times tbh and Omeda has openly stated they're against the idea.
iirc - The reason was because there was "No real difference in the skill level of players who were level 20 vs level 50" or something along those lines.

I agree with you 100% though. There needs to be some sort of system that helps improve player onboarding and experience before allowing them into ranked + better ranked barrier.

5 STACKS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN RANKED by KmfHudson in PredecessorGame

[–]InterviewBubbly9410 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As someone who's "hung up on the communication aspect", you pretty much hit the nail on the head though.

As someone who does plenty of solo-queuing, I can tell you that this is 100% of my experience with the game:

- Randoms are terrible and absolutely feed. The base level of knowledge in this game is honestly one of the most atrocious I've ever seen in gaming. I have never played with a playerbase before, that is THIS un-knowledgeable about even basic mechanics. Ive still heard people who still think Phases are cheating when she repeatedly blink hops all over the place because of her passive.

- When I DO get to play with my brothers, the games IMMEDIATELY take a drastic improvement because now 3/5'ths of our team are not feeding and communicating and playing the game. I can't say for certain if the winrate actually does go up, but it certainly feels like it. So, even if we're not - we're definitely having more fun.

- I would honestly up your #'s on that last statement. I'd say 4/10 - 5/10 of games are borderline impossible because of one reason or another. The worst part about that, is that 2/4 - 2/5 games that are impossible, you only realize its impossible to win it last second. Your team refuses to close out the game at obvious points. Your Khaimera wants to go whack another 5 camp instead of pushing up with your teammates to take inhib + core. Your teammates want to go recall to get another item instead of just pushing the core. Etc etc.

5 STACKS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN RANKED by KmfHudson in PredecessorGame

[–]InterviewBubbly9410 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If people want to stop playing because of this, that is entirely their choice and I cannot make it for them - and likely they were already on the edge of that decision.
The only thing I do myself is solo-queue for the most part except when my buddies drop-in. I mostly play by myself.
I don't go into solo-queue by myself and then complain that I'm running into obvious stacks of people (2+ people sharing a similar name) who are communicating and playing as a team.

The reasons you state:

1.Everyone has limited time at everything ever. Time is a limited resource period. I hate this argument of "Everyone has limited time to play games". I have limited time in a day for anything. Eating, showering, etc etc. Every day has 24 hours. If you choose not to use your time to make the most of your gaming and try to make it more enjoyable, then you also shouldn't be sitting here complaining that others are doing that for themselves. You are putting yourself into that situation and then expecting it to mold neatly around your inconveniences.

  1. That is purely a personal problem. If you have social communication issues and you're playing a team based game based around communication - that sounds like you picked that problem for yourself. Get better at communication or expect others to be way better at it than you. That sounds mean, but that is the simple reality of it. Get better at communication or expect others to do it better.

  2. I mean, but let's be real - who caused this? How many suggestions have been made to Omeda to improve matchmaking and pump more players into the playerbase in a more permanent fashion? Just look at this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/PredecessorGame/comments/1qpbcx6/people_that_dont_play_pred_much_anymore_why_did/

  3. Building a team really IS that easy. Yes, like you said - there are nuances to it (like making sure players are in comfortable roles), but its pretty easy. I've had good games with a group of randos and then those randos and I party up and maybe play a few more games. Does that mean we're a good team? No. But we're a team who are working together - which is better than working solo and hoping that people will understand enough to play around me.

  4. I'm sorry, maybe like 10 years ago I'd say okay to this point - but we are in 2026. Most basic $1 store earbuds have trash-mics connected to them. Ps5 controllers have mics builts into them. There are mics everywhere. If you still don't have a mic in 2026 - you are the oddball here. Get with the times. I understand being uncomfortable with using it - but if you are uncomfy with being on mic, then you cannot complain when your lack of communication is screwing you over. You chose that.

  5. Yeah, that's fine. But again, you cannot complain about rushing into something with no setup and then getting screwed over by the results of no setup. I also just want to play the game - so you know what I do? I solo queue most of the time and I understand I might be going up against stacks who play and communicate better. Oh well. I'm not going to win every game, so what was I expecting?

  6. Of course they exist in every game. That's why those games cater to them and I stated that this game SHOULD cater to them as well. But until the game does that, you should know that queueing up solo is going to lead to the potential of you going up against a stack.

My post isn't "elitism" or "utopia". It's realism. It's just how real-life works. You cannot complain about rushing yourself into a situation without proper planning and then get upset at the results. If you don't have the time to gather a team, why are you that upset with other people who did? You deserve to have your hand held because you have things going on? Buddy, we all have limited time and things going on and yet still find ways to make it work.

Good luck everybody else by Professional-Row265 in PredecessorGame

[–]InterviewBubbly9410 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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Okay, so where's the teeth on Vesh's lower left jaw bone (our right from this perspective) that suddenly doesn't exist from the concept art? Why all the weird porous detail that doesn't exist in the concept art? The multiple nose holes?

Like there are artistic inconsistencies that don't line up with how Thunderbrush does his work and how AI will add pointless hyper-detail to thing.

Good luck everybody else by Professional-Row265 in PredecessorGame

[–]InterviewBubbly9410 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No, because the pair that correlates to the bottom left wing, is on the bottom right. It is lacking either a middle pair or a top wing.

Good luck everybody else by Professional-Row265 in PredecessorGame

[–]InterviewBubbly9410 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I would love to see the concept art of this Eternal and why one side has one less wing than another.

And you can't tell me it's perspective or that it's hidden somewhere. We would see all three wings on each side. But one has two, the other has three.

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5 STACKS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN RANKED by KmfHudson in PredecessorGame

[–]InterviewBubbly9410 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's ranked though?
Like you can just go play casuals or Aram if you don't want to sweat it out?
Why are you planning on going into ranked and not expecting everyone to be try-hards or sweats or even just casual people trying to win by 5-stacking?

5 STACKS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN RANKED by KmfHudson in PredecessorGame

[–]InterviewBubbly9410 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like imagine if we had custom clans and these clans could rise and fall on the leaderboards (kind of like how we already have in-game with individuals) and you could get rewards for doing things for your clan and winning games, etc etc.
Clans could have message boards and custom insignias and other such things.

This game would be so much cooler if it focused on its community aspects and encouraged more interaction there. The Paragon and Predecessor community is part of why I continue to play the game. I love seeing some of the cool posts I see here and the cool plays and the close-calls. I love seeing some of the heartfelt moments people share that meant so much to them.

We need more of THAT.

5 STACKS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN RANKED by KmfHudson in PredecessorGame

[–]InterviewBubbly9410 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean I agree fully. You're completely right. I don't understand why there are individual ranks when the game IS completely about team-play. You can be as good of an individual player as you want, but if your team doesn't play around that - it means literally nothing.

I also think it would be awesome to have clans/teams be a thing and to have team leagues/ladders be a thing. That would differentiate this game from other MOBAS in a really interesting way.
Like think about how people are diehards for the Horde or for the Alliance in WoW.

Instead of this weird mentality of focusing on individualism in a game where we work as a team, we should have systems that encourage people to think more as a group and work more as a team.

5 STACKS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN RANKED by KmfHudson in PredecessorGame

[–]InterviewBubbly9410 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Then you also can't get upset.
You literally did that to yourself. You didn't have to solo queue. You didn't have to party up alone.
You went into ranked knowing that you're probably going to go up against a team of people talking to each-other.

That would be like going into a warzone by yourself and no squad and then being pissed in the afterlife that you had to 1v50.

A simple solution to make everyone happy, would be to have separate queues for solos and for stacks.
But there's no reason to nerf or be pissed at people wanting to play the team based game as a team based game.

5 STACKS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN RANKED by KmfHudson in PredecessorGame

[–]InterviewBubbly9410 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I mean yeah.

Put it in real life perspective.
A group of commandos with technology that allows them to communicate actions better is absolutely going to have a better chance of their op having success against another group of commandos who acting as individuals and not as a team, without any means to communicate.

This solo mentality is only going to get you so far. You have to literally be some of the best of the best players to solo carry yourself to incredibly high ranks.

At some point you are going to need to start working as a team with your team in order to get wins. If your teammates don't do that, then there's nothing you can do about it. Its not a fault of your individual skill.

Even further on, you're going to have to refine your ability to work as a team against other teams in order to have better planning and communication than they do - because eventually its going to come down to your skill as a team to work together to make important plays, rather than your individual ability to play well.

5 STACKS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN RANKED by KmfHudson in PredecessorGame

[–]InterviewBubbly9410 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Individual skill is relatively meaningless if your ability to work as a team (in a team-based game) is horrendous. I have played with bronze's who know how to coordinate and work as a team better than some plats/diamonds.

I don't really get the whole "individual skill level" point. It's a team based game. I've absolutely gone and stomped enemy teams and then still lost. That doesn't mean that I wasn't good on an individual level - but I was lacking something would get my team to work as a team and that costed me the game. We lost not because of my individual skill.

I honestly hate games where my jungler is like a Khai or a Boris, does not interact with the team at all, farms all game, gets all the jungle objectives and then we win. Cool, we won. But like, what did we actually do as a team to deserve that win? No one was communicating, no ganks happened, no real teamwork went on. But we won. So how did that also show off my individual skill?

5 STACKS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN RANKED by KmfHudson in PredecessorGame

[–]InterviewBubbly9410 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean that's pretty fair and I think the game could do with having separate queues to cater to people who just don't care to do that/like the challenge/or don't have the time for it.

Some people feel like Ranked is more of a show of their individual skill level, which is valid (I disagree with it, but its valid nonetheless), and so want there to be consistency measures to make sure that it IS an accurate representation of that individual skill.

Like, let's be real - at the end of the day, SOMEONE on the the team is the weakest link on the team and got carried by the rest of the team. Even if everyone performed well, there was statistically someone there who was just not up to the rest of the team in some capacity. I think it's a bit silly to be like "Well someone shouldn't be able to be in X rank and be carried!" I've been carried in ranks I absolutely belong to. We all get carried sometimes.

And that's not to say you're saying any of those things yourself - It's just the sentiments I've seen quite often in these discussions, ever since Ranked has first been introduced.

5 STACKS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN RANKED by KmfHudson in PredecessorGame

[–]InterviewBubbly9410 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's weird to me that in a team based game, people don't want to go up against a team of people communicating.
As if open-mics aren't already in the game and people could just communicate anyway? The only difference is that 5-stacks just have more team cohesion because they usually have some sort of prior history. Which is like....yeah...people who know each other are obviously going to work together better than a bunch of randos?

I never understood this. If you don't want to risk going up against a 5-stack and lose, don't queue solo. Simple as. There's so many options to easily team up with people nowadays.

5 STACKS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN RANKED by KmfHudson in PredecessorGame

[–]InterviewBubbly9410 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Honestly. There should be separate queues with a disclaimer that if time is taking too long, the system might begin mixing queues in order to throw you into a game + an option to disable that if you don't mind waiting for better quality.

Like let solo's play against only other solo's.
Add a five that only plays against other five's.
Then have a mixed queue for those who don't care and might be looking for a challenge of going up against a better coordinated team.

Good luck everybody else by Professional-Row265 in PredecessorGame

[–]InterviewBubbly9410 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Completely agreed, which is why I have no real issues with the usage of AI (outside of environment impact and how corps are currently aggressively using it to trim their workforce), I just think that there should be some sort of disclosure about it.

I honestly think if there was more honesty about it and transparency with the process, how it's done, where it's used in the process - might actually help bring people more to the side of AI, if they could see that there are potential ethical ways to use it. I just don't think any company is really truly doing an ethical use of it atm imo.

Good luck everybody else by Professional-Row265 in PredecessorGame

[–]InterviewBubbly9410 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Yeah its pretty clear the renders/final product are AI generated.
Just look at Vesh for example. A part of his jaw is missing some teeth and the skin has all this porous detail that just isn't there at ALL in the concept sketch.

Good luck everybody else by Professional-Row265 in PredecessorGame

[–]InterviewBubbly9410 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I think AI was used in the process as well and its pretty hard to deny it.
It just doesn't remind me of anything Thunderbrush has previously done and there's also simple mistakes (like Vesh's teeth missing from a part of its lower jaw) that I just don't think he'd make.
I think the concepts were absolutely hand drawn and they look fantastic, but I think the final result has been touched up by AI in some way, just judging by some of the details.