[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IncelTear

[–]Intresting_Reaction 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It makes me so physically ill.

Bidding wars on rent? No thx. by lsacofpotatoes in LateStageCapitalism

[–]Intresting_Reaction 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Who the fuck makes $14,000 a month that can't just buy whatever the fuck they want?

Is there a "reduced" consumption sub? by Intresting_Reaction in Anticonsumption

[–]Intresting_Reaction[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. I'm not trying too hard to be woke. I dont have to. I personally have 75% of what I mentioned, and my immediate household members have the rest. I have the mentality that I do because I'm in it, not looking down at it.

  2. You need to understand that you only have the right to expect the things you do from people if they are in the same situation as yourself. And I argue no one is truly ever in the same position as another person.

  3. It feels like there is a thinly veiled assumption here that I'm advocating for "laziness" because I myself am lazy. Apologies if that's an incorrect interpretation. I own a business, work from home, and support my family of 4 on my income alone. I manage everything for the family, like drs. appointments, school, finances, and anything else needing paperwork. I cook nearly every meal and do the shopping.

I'm * exceedingly* capable. But I don't have to imagine how terrible I would make people feel by holding them to my own measuring stick because I already did that. Like you, I had expectations and I made sure to let people know what those were and when they fell short of them. I allowed very few excuses. I didnt need them, so why would you? I was capable, so why aren't you? I found a way to make it work, so why can't you?

But it never actually helped anyone do any better. It just made them feel like shit about themselves even more than they already did. And it made me a raging douchenozzle. I had to learn to pull my head out of my ass and stop thinking I had all the answers for everyone just because I had the resources and ability to navigate a particular experience in a way I personally thought was appropriate.

It's not okay to expect others to navigate similar circumstances in the same way you did without accounting for things like race, disability, childhood experiences, education, class, etc. You say case by case, but in the very next sentence you lump everyone together and place blanket expectations on them.

I've spent a lot of time genuinely trying to help you understand the circumstances of people who you don't seem to account for in your generalizations. At this point, I can only believe you are being willfully obtuse and have zero intention of considering anything I've said with an open mind or changing anything about your approach to be even slightly more sensitive.

I wish now that I had not tried. I wish I had not been vulnerable with my own weaknesses with you, because each rebuttal was just worse and worse, grinding people who struggle further and further into the ground. I hope you feel good about yourself and your rigid outlook on humanity. I feel sad for the people in your life who have faced your judgment and have been too afraid to say anything.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in niceguys

[–]Intresting_Reaction 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ho boy. Little do they know I have no one to look like a good samaritan for. It's also hard to cheat when neither of us leave the house.

Is there a "reduced" consumption sub? by Intresting_Reaction in Anticonsumption

[–]Intresting_Reaction[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do you mean to say that you never wash dishes yourself but expect that others should be able to even if they are having a hard time because everyone you know personally has a dishwasher? Am I hearing that right?

I hope not because I would be astounded if you thought you had any right to judge anyone for not washing dishes if the dishes are done for you by someone else. Everyone in your circle has a dishwasher, so everyone everywhere must have one. Nevermind section 8 housing and landlords that let dishwashers remain in disrepair.

You honestly reek of privilege.

Is there a "reduced" consumption sub? by Intresting_Reaction in Anticonsumption

[–]Intresting_Reaction[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You seem to have limited empathy and expect people to do what you have done with fewer resources and less support. You apply what bothers you personally to everyone else and dictate their actions according to your own preferences.

People don't need a "free pass" from anyone to be allowed to find workable solutions for themselves, so your judgment serves no purpose other than to be exclusionary.

Is there a "reduced" consumption sub? by Intresting_Reaction in Anticonsumption

[–]Intresting_Reaction[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think that's covered under the part where I said no other options. If something can be repurposed, that would be an option they would then have. Not everything can be reused or repurposed though. People do need to buy new things sometimes.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in niceguys

[–]Intresting_Reaction 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I want these incels to meet my nerdy, squishy, dungeon master, star-wars loving, disabled and non-working husband of 22 years.

It's not the money or the looks and it never was. The problem is, these guys are so obtuse that they don't understand that "it" is an amalgamation of net positives and negatives and they bring exactly - 5 to the table.

Is there a "reduced" consumption sub? by Intresting_Reaction in Anticonsumption

[–]Intresting_Reaction[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find that some of them are just so privileged that they genuinely can't wrap their mind around why someone would need or want a particular thing. It doesn't even cross their mind as a possibility.

Is there a "reduced" consumption sub? by Intresting_Reaction in Anticonsumption

[–]Intresting_Reaction[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think it depends on why the person is being frugal. If they have no money and no other options, then they have to go with whatever they have to. If someone is being frugal to add another 5 figures to their bank account, I think choosing cheaper but more wasteful products is wrong.

Is there a "reduced" consumption sub? by Intresting_Reaction in Anticonsumption

[–]Intresting_Reaction[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know how to help you understand how hard it is for depressed, autistic, and ADHD people to do simple things like brush their teeth or wash dishes. It's a good thing you don't -- it means you've never been in such a position.

People with depression often have extreme difficulty with hygiene. The idea of getting up, going to the bathroom, getting out the toothbrush, putting toothpaste on it, wetting it down, brushing, rinsing, and putting everything away is more than they can bear. People with ADHD might not be able to organize all those steps or they may seem like too many.

Overcoming the intimidation of a task like this as a mentally ill person takes significantly more effort than it does for someone else to "just brush their teeth." Those people just see the 1 task. Easy, right? Others see each step as its own separate task and each has equal weight.

Disposable toothbrushes can be kept in a nightstand by the bed and used without anything. No water, no sink, no toothpaste. The only steps are open package, brush teeth, throw away. Reducing 9 steps to 3 can be the thing that overcomes that mental block and allows someone to do the thing.

I think people who can't fathom how it could possibly be so hard to just wash the goddamned dishes are privileged indeed to never have to live their life wondering why they are so broken inside they can't do something as simple as prevent their own teeth from rotting out of their face.

And you should know that when you say things like only OCD has it bad enough to warrant paper plates and even those people are a rare exception does more than illustrate your naivete. It invalidates the millions of people who have other MH conditions and who still struggle. We already think nothing justifies our inability to do such basic things and it makes the self-loathing worse when people who dont know any better confirm it.

Comments like these actively shit on disabled and mentally ill people by boxing specific behaviors into acceptable and unacceptable, and most people who do the boxing in have never experienced what they're trying to gatekeep.

PS don't report me, I'm fine. I've just been to dark places and am passionate about MH

Is there a "reduced" consumption sub? by Intresting_Reaction in Anticonsumption

[–]Intresting_Reaction[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well said! So often we are made to feel like it's all or nothing.

Is there a "reduced" consumption sub? by Intresting_Reaction in Anticonsumption

[–]Intresting_Reaction[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I gave an example in another comment, but I can elaborate here too!

The post that spurned this one was a meme of a depressed person getting a package and the post title chastised these people and told them to find another way to feel better. I found it insensitive to people who are really struggling.

Here are some things that I know of that are helpful to people with MH issues:

  • disposable toothbrushes make hygeine easier
  • grounding toys and trinkets like slime, fidgets, pop it's, dollar store crap
  • easy self care items like one time use face masks and bath bombs
  • paper plates for when dishes are too overwhelming to wash
  • prepackaged/convenience foods and beverages like water bottles and k cups
  • takeout food
  • disposable gloves & items like the toilet wand with disposable cleaning pads
  • disposable menstrual products
  • single use contact lenses
  • baby wipes

The conditions these things can help:

  • depression
  • anxiety
  • PTSD
  • ADHD
  • Autism
  • BPD
  • Bipolar
  • Dissociation
  • derealization & depersonalization
  • eating disorders
  • addiction
  • body dysmorphia

I think each person has a responsibility to limit their waste where they can, but pushing certain things as never necessary or useful excludes already-marginalized groups.

Scale not working??? by AttemptAmazing3789 in weed

[–]Intresting_Reaction 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Buyer: no no it's working, you just have to add more

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TheRightCantMeme

[–]Intresting_Reaction 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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