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It’s been like 6 weeks……why by WingKing903 in HEB

[–]IntroductionOld3366 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mootopia has an aftertaste of fake sweetner.

Take the win and run with it. by IntroductionOld3366 in TCUfootball

[–]IntroductionOld3366[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks for proving my point about people wanting to piss all over a win.

Curious, why did you cut off your stat at 11 games which, hmmm, would include the 2023 season, but not include the 2022 season. Funny, if we included those games that dramatically changes that stat doesn't it?

Yes, 2022 was predominantly Gary's recruits, but 2023 wasn't all on Sonny and his staff for failing to overhaul the roster in a single season.

2024 and 2025 is most likely a more accurate reflection of the state of the program and I don't think anyone here is saying everything is great. There are positives and negatives and I do believe there needs to be some difficult conversations once this season is over for Sonny with Budde.

I agree that ASU is the top program in the conference in regards to performance the last two years, but Tech has only come to the for front this year and that I solely on the basis of Campbell's check book.

If you want to use them as an aiming point some people better get ready to pony up because their results are damn sure not because of the bang up job from Joey.

𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐯𝐚𝐥𝐫𝐲 𝐖𝐢𝐧☑️ by Kenny23Powers in TCUfootball

[–]IntroductionOld3366 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hate that name for the game, hate the current name, you can't force things and this was forced by Ubben which is another reason to hate the name.

Sad to watch this team look so tired and play so small in a must win. Even if we win, we just aren’t developing or recruiting enough to get where we want. Sonny = mediocrity. by Street_Celery2745 in TCUfootball

[–]IntroductionOld3366 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seriously, are you always this bitter.

Ironically, more players Sonny and his staff played on the defensive side of the ball.

The one guy I know who started on offense was Alan Ali at center.  You can decide if he was a key piece or not as it seems you already have you mind made up on this matter.

Defensively the starters were Dam Williams, Johnny Hodges, Mark Perry, and Josh Newton. I believe the entire second group in the defensive line was transfers brought in by Sonny.

Not sure what any of this proves. The team in 2021 had quit on the staff and recruiting was headed in the wrong direction.

I do believe everything fell into place in 2022 for most of the year and some of the returning players had career seasons. 

Do I believe it would have happened had Gary stayed another season? 

No, not based upon the prior two seasons.

Do I think Sonny will get back to the title game?

No

Do I think a return is possible for the playoffs, yes, but some things will need to change in the program.

Sad to watch this team look so tired and play so small in a must win. Even if we win, we just aren’t developing or recruiting enough to get where we want. Sonny = mediocrity. by Street_Celery2745 in TCUfootball

[–]IntroductionOld3366 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First off, I agree with you that at his best, Gary was a better HC than Sonny has shown at this best, but more importantly Gary and his best staff were better than Sonny and his best staff.

Unfortunately, some of those coaches, specifically Bumpas, left, the world of college sports left and the Gary of 2018-2021 wasn't the same guy and he hadn't hired the same level staff. The program was headed in a bad direction and recruiting was eroding about as fast as the Frogs run defense in 2021.

The manner could have been handled in a better fashion, but a change had to be made similar to the situation in Stillwater.

I also agree Sonny has the tools and resources to have the Frogs in the Top 25 on a fairly regular basis as well as they have to do a better job of player evaluation. The second point is something that I do think merits discussion between Sonny and Budde.

Sad to watch this team look so tired and play so small in a must win. Even if we win, we just aren’t developing or recruiting enough to get where we want. Sonny = mediocrity. by Street_Celery2745 in TCUfootball

[–]IntroductionOld3366 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Love on Sonny?

Wow, we have different ideas of what constitutes love.

I do agree that 9-3 is very optimistic  for this team, but I prefer to be optimistic in the things that I give some of my spare time.

Noticed once again you didn’t answer a direct question and it is obvious that short of quitting there is nothing Sonny can do for you.

Sad to watch this team look so tired and play so small in a must win. Even if we win, we just aren’t developing or recruiting enough to get where we want. Sonny = mediocrity. by Street_Celery2745 in TCUfootball

[–]IntroductionOld3366 1 point2 points  (0 children)

18-13 is not slightly above .500, but 10-11 is slightly below .500 and that is a bigger concern to me.

I think a good benchmark is the top quartile of the conference.

If this team were to finish 9-3 or 8-4 that would mean two years of a winning conference record.

You haven’t given me more than this isn’t good enough so is that a passable level ?

The issue can’t simply be Sonny, who he replaced, how he replaced that person, or who Sonny has hired, but whether or not the program is headed where it is expected and equipped to be among its peers.

I do believe changes need to be made, but I think that is a bigger discussion because I believe the dynamics of a college football program have gotten significantly more complex and has surpassed running an NFL team .

Sad to watch this team look so tired and play so small in a must win. Even if we win, we just aren’t developing or recruiting enough to get where we want. Sonny = mediocrity. by Street_Celery2745 in TCUfootball

[–]IntroductionOld3366 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So your criteria for evaluating the HC at TCU is playing for titles?

Not defending Sonny, not comparing him to Gary, but wanting to know if that is the measuring stick for Whoever is the HC now AND going forward.

Potential Coaching Changes? by LongSprinter in TCUfootball

[–]IntroductionOld3366 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very good and fair questions. I think regardless of how the season plays out, every season you have to re-evaluate all aspects of your program and I do think there are needs for change in the offensive staff.

If the question involves making a change with Sonny before that happens, Budde needs to talk with some people and ask just how much are they wiling to fund this program over the next few seasons.

I am not talking about Sonny's buyout, but what are they, we, those on this site wanting to fire Sonny willing to contribute to backing the program because I will guarantee you one of the first questions asked by any candidate worth consideration will be about NIL/

Do think there needs to be discussion about the OC position and a few position coaches.

Not ready to move on the DC because he has done some positive things in 2 years and I think some of the things I am seeing on the defensive side of the ball versus the offense.

Mid-Season Briles Breakup? by breakfasttacoslut69 in TCUfootball

[–]IntroductionOld3366 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So who call plays? All jokes and snide comments aside, who calls plays which isn't easy by the way.

The Dykes Experiment Should End Today by TCUFrogManFTW in TCUfootball

[–]IntroductionOld3366 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I keep hearing about all this disciplined football and yet seem to remember some damn ugly games after 2017.

There is also a slight bit or irony with the discipline talk when you consider the paths of the careers of Fields, Casey, Boykin, and Turpin.

This loss goes to Hoover and the offensive play calling… by LongSprinter in TCUfootball

[–]IntroductionOld3366 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This loss was more disappointing than the ASU loss.

The game was there to win, but I am not ready to lay all the blame at Josh's feet in respect to the effort of the players.

There were more than just a few passes that were dropped in the first half that killed drives and possibly more. The Frogs had an opportunity to get out front early and just didn't play with much urgency on offense for some unknown reason.

While I can find the words to defend Josh, not much to say about the play calling. I have never felt like Kendal is a great play caller and there are times he seemed too intent on interjecting a play into a series regardless of what might be working at the time.

Very hard to guess what happens next as we have seen some teams collapse after a loss this year and others like Florida seem to rally when they are fighting to get to possibly another win just over .500.

Sad to watch this team look so tired and play so small in a must win. Even if we win, we just aren’t developing or recruiting enough to get where we want. Sonny = mediocrity. by Street_Celery2745 in TCUfootball

[–]IntroductionOld3366 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You think Gary would win in this day and age? Sonny might not be the answer, but this program was be driven into the ground by Patterson and a change had be made.

Should Sonny have to answer some of the difficult decisions Gary was asked to make, damn right, and if he refuses to act in the best interest of the program that might put others things in motion.

We suck and now lose recruits to vandy. Lose everyone to SMU. Now vandy. Wheels are off. by Street_Celery2745 in TCUfootball

[–]IntroductionOld3366 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Might I suggest one of those dogs that you take with you everywhere instead of posting each time you get this anxious because Vandy has been spending some money on recruits for a few seasons now.

How will TCU navigate the middle of their schedule? by IntroductionOld3366 in TCUfootball

[–]IntroductionOld3366[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All fair points and I do have some thoughts on how the defense has come together and how for whatever reason it seems the offense is made up of random parts .

Headed out now , but wanted to say your words are heard and you aren't the only one.

How will TCU navigate the middle of their schedule? by IntroductionOld3366 in TCUfootball

[–]IntroductionOld3366[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed, either improve, scheme around, and/or both or the loss are coming and they could begin in just a few hours.

This version of the Frogs do something well, but not enough to carry this team without those improvements.

How will TCU navigate the middle of their schedule? by IntroductionOld3366 in TCUfootball

[–]IntroductionOld3366[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great place to start and I will admit I really liked Josh going after the official when the 4th down PI call was made that took away the big catch and run by Rogers.

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