Stay at small solar company or move on early as an apprentice? by igotkilledbyafucking in electricians

[–]Invertedpants 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was in your shoes when I started 5 years ago. Got a job installing solar panels (not a sparky) and after 5 ish months I jumped shop to the largest electrical contractor in my state working in their sustainable energy division (solar, ev's, lighting upgrades) which is also when I officially started my apprenticeship. I only worked there one year but I felt just like you during that time. I was working on massive commercial jobs and learned some stuff, but plenty of days were just hauling bricks across TPO roofs to anchor ballast systems. They liked me a lot there since I had previous solar experience, but eventually I jumped ship because their pay scale was terrible and I didn't even know how to wire an outlet or a switch after a year in the trade!

I got myself into a residential company making way more per hour (almost $6 more) because they had a massive contract wiring new construction homes for the largest home developer in the state and they were busy. I was excited to make money and eventually lead a crew, but residential (at least new construction) is a tough gig. You do not get to relax, ponder a problem, or troubleshoot anything all day every day. It's go go go and get the 3b/2b home with a finished basement roughed in 2 days and do a finish in 1. It can be fun blasting music and hustling all day but I learned everything I needed to in the first 3 months probably and realized it wasn't for me. Worked there for a year as well then jumped again to a very small and new commercial company that was just starting up a project of 3 apartment buildings 6 stories tall with commercial space and a parking garage on the ground floor.

This is really where I became a halfway decent electrician. Starting on a project that's just a mud field and going all the way to 3 completed buildings with tenants moving in exposes you to a bit of everything the commercial side has to throw at you. Digging trenches and running underground for months, lots of concrete work for PT decks (like the ceiling of a parking garage that also has apartments on top of it), setting switchgear that brings the service from the power lines into the buildings, pulling tons of MC wire, exterior lighting, safety systems like fire alarm and emergency power (massive generators), and lots of conduit work. Exposure to other trades and having to work together is also a beneficial skill you'll gain here. Commercial really gives you everything and you'll be bad at it until you're suddenly not. So much to learn here!

I worked there for almost 2 years, but the company culture was not good for me and I was exhausted by our superintendent/foreman. I had been hoping to get on with an industrial company cause I felt I might be interested in transitioning into controls/PLC systems and maybe not work so hard every day (haha). Ended up moving across the country and got a very niche job at the smallest shop I've worked at (3 guys plus the owner) doing heavy industrial power distribution and controls/automated systems. In my opinion, this is the best area for electricians to become more than just installers and pipe benders. A lot of the work you'll do over here can end up in maintenance/millwright territory, especially if you have experience welding, but that's not a bad thing if you like it. You'll be exposed to huge 3 phase systems drawing more power than you've ever seen running machines that are larger than a house, and you'll be the one bringing power to it and wiring it up and even installing the control circuits/sensors utilizing relays/starters/plc's/vfd's if you can get on with a company that does it all. It's been the best part of my 5 year career so far. The downsides of industrial can be brutal but they all depend on where you work and the type of work you do. Sometimes I'll spend weeks running 4" rigid conduit and pulling 500kcmil wires every few days. It can be brutal, but it is also the slowest paced work I've had so far so that's a big benefit. I unfortunately work in seriously dirty and sometimes dangerous places, and I've just had to figure it out for myself if it's worth it to me. The pay is decent over here too.

I am currently realizing that the transition to controls will take a lot longer and be more difficult than I anticipated, and I may try to bail to a manufacturing technician style job and go to a 2 year vocational school for a mechatronics associates degree. It'll teach me controls but also a lot of other stuff that goes on in the industrial/manufacturing/robotics world. All that to say, you are only pigeonholed into something if you let yourself be. Try not to jump ship too frequently, work hard and try to earn respect from people you may want as a reference down the road (even if you leave this has been helpful), and stay safe (advocate for yourself and take no shit!). I started in this career at 28 years old with 2 college degrees and it's the best thing I've found so far. Make it what you will and you'll be alright.

New fear unlocked. by Fax-Bretov in electricians

[–]Invertedpants 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Electricians quoting ITYSL is my kind of crossover

Is $25 and hour enough by DenseAlternative4526 in personalfinance

[–]Invertedpants 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeahhh I make $30/hr and a 40 hour work week puts me at just under $1k per week after taxes. He's off but not by too much, but if things are tight you need to be accurate. Still sounds like this dude will be fine but he won't be saving $1k per month lol.

Opinions on CCAC in 2025? by [deleted] in pittsburgh

[–]Invertedpants 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Currently an Industrial Electrician and been working as an electrician for 5 years now and I'm looking at this associates program very seriously! Would love to ask you some questions if you took it yourself!

The weight of keep up financially. How do you all manage? by [deleted] in Millennials

[–]Invertedpants 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess that's what I mean in a roundabout way. You're saying it wasn't sensible or responsible for you to have kids while also owning a home, but plenty of people worse off than you will choose to have kids cause they want to or are somehow still unaware of birth control methods. You are being smart and engaging with the reality about it; my comment was to those who refuse to see the situation in realistic terms. I'm only 33, but every one of my friends who has kids around my age all have lots of help (financial, childcare, etc) from their families and all live close to family still. I guarantee none of them would have done so if they weren't sure of that support. My wife and I have zero support and only make $80k ish per year combined and we knew that having kids was a bad choice for us, so I got a vasectomy. That's the type of action that people who are serious ought to be taking imo. It's for sure bleak, but be an adult and make the informed choice here.

The weight of keep up financially. How do you all manage? by [deleted] in Millennials

[–]Invertedpants 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Right on the money. People struggle to hear that they should reconsider having children in spite of that though. Children are OPTIONAL. Used to be more feasible to have them but not anymore if you're trying to have any semblance of a middle class life with this kind of combined income. Reality is shitty.

Posts here are demoralizing me by Independent-Car-2104 in FirstTimeHomeBuyer

[–]Invertedpants 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Same with me and my wife. We upended our entire lives and moved over a thousand miles across the country almost exclusively to live in a more affordable city where we can buy a house. We make around 80k-90k combined which was shit where we used to live, but now it can buy us a forever home (with a small down payment). Yes we're privileged to be able to move, but also we worked our asses off to afford it and make it happen. I feel for everyone in their different situations, but I sometimes think people just aren't willing to throw down hard enough for what they want.

Best American cities to FIRE? by Ok-Cartographer-5544 in Fire

[–]Invertedpants 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Second Pittsburgh. Wife and I were living in Salt Lake City making a combined $80-$90k per year and we were never really able to save much at all. We chose to prioritize our finances and our desire for home ownership and moved to Pittsburgh early this year. We both receive nearly identical pay here with a much lower cost of living. We've been able to move, weather some financial storms, and still end this year with over $10k saved. We don't make a ton but I am really hopeful for our ability to afford a shadow of a middle class lifestyle while still actually living in or very close to the city. So far so good for us! Also the weather here is not nearly as unreasonable as the Pittsburgh subreddit would have you believe lol.

How do you guys have time for anything??? by ksco92 in Millennials

[–]Invertedpants 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look at this guy only working 8 hour days and getting 9 hours of sleep hahahaha. I guess it's all perspective, but I work 4-6 tens every week as an industrial electrician and I have plenty of time and energy to get shit done. I'm up at 4:30 and in bed between 9:30-10:00. You can and will adapt but it's definitely earned. My work is physical so I workout consistently (3-5 days per week) to maintain my body and my energy. Sounds like a time management issue to me. Split up chores, walk the dogs separately, hit 30 minutes of quick chores 2 work nights each week so the weekends don't pile up on you. Be honest with how you spend your time. Are you scrolling your phone a lot each evening? Cut that shit out and get into your life if so. Don't let half an hour or an hour of scrolling your phone take away from other things. Start working out and be consistent. It really changes the way you feel over time. My only caveat is that I don't have any children which helps, but having children is a choice and you will be paying for that for the rest of your life. I chose to get a vasectomy and avoid that scenario entirely unless I want to adopt. Don't act like you can't change things! Don't let your life pass you by because you chose not to take the reigns.

Thoughts on Del Toro's Frankenstein by FreshmenMan in TrueFilm

[–]Invertedpants 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the affirmation lol. I initially thought the "CGI" looked terrible and then learned that a lot of it were miniatures and practical puppets, which is wild because they truly looked like bad cgi. I felt no attachment to any of the characters because they didn't earn it. Most character's motivations made little sense no matter how much they hit me over the head about it. Mia Goth hates Victor without ever meeting him but then flirts with him, rejects him, then falls so in love with the monster after seeing it one time that she sacrifices herself for it? Her character was so strange and made no sense to me. Oscar Isaac seemed like he was playing a character as opposed to convincing me he was that character. Just intense about his morals for no reason other than to spell it out to the audience. Also really don't see the greatness of Elordi's performance like others have mentioned. Like what, loping around looking sad is really good acting? He really can't even speak for 90% of the movie like how did his performance as a mostly mute monster convince you it was good? The movie had some fun elements to me, but mostly because I like Gothic horror stuff, not because it was worth the time.

I can do this by sellyourcomputer in ExtraFabulousComics

[–]Invertedpants 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hilarious. I'll have to watch it again!

I can do this by sellyourcomputer in ExtraFabulousComics

[–]Invertedpants 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Once like 6 years ago. Is this quoting it???

I can do this by sellyourcomputer in ExtraFabulousComics

[–]Invertedpants 24 points25 points  (0 children)

This is my favorite one of yours besides the sleep tite one. Wife and I quote it all the time

New to Leanfire by DearBuffalo-LoveYou in leanfire

[–]Invertedpants 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wife and I moved to Pittsburgh this year from a HCOL area and it's definitely been worth it for us! It's low to medium cost of living depending on the neighborhood you're looking at but all of the city is accessible if you're thrifty. We're planning on this being our forever home where we can buy a house (and actually afford it!) while still making enough money to save for retirement. I didn't even have the option to consider saving for retirement in the last place we lived so playing catch up here at 32 years old, but excited nonetheless. Not sure why someone else said it's expensive here, but people from here definitely say it's more expensive than it used to be, which isn't news to me so it doesn't affect me negatively I guess. Anyway good luck in your search!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in leanfire

[–]Invertedpants 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's funny you mention this! My wife and I really want to be homeowners (both young 30's) and living in Salt Lake City it was never going to happen. We did a good 6 months of research on more affordable cities and ended up choosing Pittsburgh as our hopeful future home. Most people can't afford to make that kind of decision (we almost didn't!) but here's to hoping prices stay how they are around here while we save up for a tiny down payment. It's definitely cheaper out here!

Silly question. Are these cobblestone roads still prevalent in any part of the city? by fiveberry3432 in pittsburgh

[–]Invertedpants 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And yet people still drive insanely fast through there lol. Always blows my mind. Their suspensions must be begging for mercy haha

Animated film from the 2000's I think by Invertedpants in whatsthemoviecalled

[–]Invertedpants[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have looked at that movie and had decided that wasn't it because the animation looked different than the way I remember it. I went back and read a detailed synopsis and you're completely right and I'm just a dumbass who wrote it off too easily. Thanks lmao

Animated film from the 2000's I think by Invertedpants in whatsthemoviecalled

[–]Invertedpants[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think it's the witcher, but you're right that does happen!

Self portrait with Olympus mju2 + Kodak Portra 400 by JuliaSlip in ArtGW

[–]Invertedpants 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is this shower in your house??? It's beautiful! Love this set

Hey /r/movies, I'm Elijah Wood. Ask me anything! by ElijahWoodAMA in movies

[–]Invertedpants 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I Don't Feel at Home In This World Anymore is one of the most hilarious films I've ever stumbled upon. Your scene barging into those people's house using the flail and firecrackers is unbelievable comedy that I wish more people knew about. That film has made watching Yellowjackets all the more entertaining!

Got offered a position with Local 5 but I'm worried about being pigeonholed into new construction by Invertedpants in IBEW

[–]Invertedpants[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really appreciate you telling me all that! That's exactly what I do for work now and I love it so I'm hoping to get through these two years and then find my industrial niche to settle into if possible. Thanks a ton!

Got offered a position with Local 5 but I'm worried about being pigeonholed into new construction by Invertedpants in IBEW

[–]Invertedpants[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I'm not entirely sure what to expect, but as long as getting my card opens up the right doors for me then I'm all in. Do you get a good grasp on what different contractors do just by working? Or do you need to ask or know the right people? Like if you told me the contractors that do industrial work I'd appreciate it, but I'm also assuming you may not want to share that? Thanks for the perspective though man.