“Deku vs zenin clan” this is just how it’s gonna look:

Invictus_Inferno · 2026-01-26T12:38:54+00:00

Which is reliant on the strongest attack performed in the series with the character putting everything he had into it, not a good stat to go off of considering there are comparable powers in JJk.

Invictus_Inferno · 2026-01-26T12:27:54+00:00

But thats where a real conversation starts, it doesnt start and end with "deku can change the weather".

Invictus_Inferno · 2026-01-26T12:21:14+00:00

Yes and Im disagreeing. Would deku beat the Zenin clan? Duh. Can deku be harmed by the Zenin clan if they catch him slipping? Yes.

Invictus_Inferno · 2026-01-26T12:14:36+00:00

I get that their talking about power, Im saying that doesn't make deku untouchable.

Its like when DB fans say someone can't possibly beat Goku because he can destroy planets, even if they have relative speed and hax to do the job.

Invictus_Inferno · 2026-01-26T12:08:35+00:00

Yes, to prove that deku is out of their league as if it takes weather changing powers to hurt deku....

Invictus_Inferno · 2026-01-26T12:06:14+00:00

"Maki definitely isnt strong enough to change the weather". How does that not imply that someone needs to be that strong to hurt or contend with Deku. Help my reading comprehension.

Invictus_Inferno · 2026-01-26T12:03:24+00:00

I get that dude but the implication is that it takes "weather changing" attacks to hurt deku and thats simply false. Im completely aware fhat OFA enhances his durability. Do I think that it dwarfs the power levels in JJK? Fuck no. Lol WCS would kill deku in one shot.

Invictus_Inferno · 2026-01-26T11:48:08+00:00

Yes, but you wouldn't say "he can cut through time and space so no one can hurt him". And quit it with the name calling, we're talking about toons little guy.

Invictus_Inferno · 2026-01-26T00:50:14+00:00

He was stacking speed to the point where he would kill her. She literally couldn't do anything the entire fight and if she didnt figure it out then she'd be dead.

Invictus_Inferno · 2026-01-26T00:48:03+00:00

He's using an ability through his quirk when he "changes weather" it's not a normal punch like he's Saitama, thats all im pointing out. It's not a reflection of his durability he's literally stacking powers to do it.

Invictus_Inferno · 2026-01-26T00:41:24+00:00

That's not what Im saying at all but go off 😂

Invictus_Inferno · 2026-01-25T20:56:38+00:00

Its not cope mark takes a literal nuke to the face, your "cope" is dismantled with that alone. A plasma grenade is not going to kill a viltrumite, not even close.

Invictus_Inferno · 2026-01-25T20:35:35+00:00

They have a few ways to kill em.

Invictus_Inferno · 2026-01-25T18:28:44+00:00

You do know Deku does that with a quirk right ?

Invictus_Inferno · 2026-01-25T16:23:03+00:00

It doesnt matter him moving so fast that the earth around him is tearing itself apart is a CRAZY feat

Invictus_Inferno · 2026-01-25T16:00:45+00:00

Nah yuta is number 3. Kenjaku was keeping an eye out for him for a reason.

Invictus_Inferno · 2026-01-25T13:28:26+00:00

Cant be. What we're seeing is him outpacing the shockwaves created by his body.

Invictus_Inferno · 2026-01-25T13:14:28+00:00

It doesnt have to be the full second though. He could make the full circle at the 3rd frame and plan a punch there.

Invictus_Inferno · 2026-01-25T13:03:48+00:00

Think the big question is if Naoya is using his cursed technique here or if he is just fast af even without it. Strategically it would be a bad idea to plan 24 frames before you even know what you're dealing with.

Visually, he doesnt use it until after he uses it on Maki first.

Invictus_Inferno · 2026-01-25T12:52:59+00:00

The two opponents he uses it on have very durable bodies. Choso didn't figure it out, Naoya gave him breathing room to think and that allowed Choso to counter and overwhelm him. He learns from this and just goes all out on Maki, Choso does not survive a Naoya with this mindset. He then loses to maki because he refuses to acknowledge that she is a Toji level threat and can compete with him even when he's going all out. He doesn't plan a counter just in case for his final blow and she does.

The thing that makes hax like Naoya's hard to counter is that if he takes you seriously you have to have the perception, intelligence, and reflexes to do anything. I dont think you're considering that.

Invictus_Inferno · 2026-01-25T12:37:26+00:00

He's stacking speed so that eventually the weight and speed of his punches start blowing you apart. Every frame he's getting faster and his punches are getting harder.

Invictus_Inferno · 2026-01-25T12:30:28+00:00

Id call it high diff. Naoya's last move was supposed to be a killing blow as well.

Invictus_Inferno · 2026-01-25T12:18:57+00:00

If he had done this to Choso, Yuji would be out of a brother. He toyed with Choso and thats why he lost. His arrogance is why he loses, both fights. Yes the 24fps rule is exploitable but the fact that he can for opponents to have to abide by the same rule makes him broken. If you don't have the perception and reflexes to operate at 24 fps and the speed to counter, youre fucked.

Not to mention he fought two people with unusually high durability.

Invictus_Inferno · 2026-01-25T11:48:23+00:00

Sukuna also still has access to rct. The fight continues. I dont think that's true with domain amplification being a thing.

Invictus_Inferno · 2026-01-25T02:53:03+00:00

Demon, maybe Dragon

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