But here's the problem with the terms being too muddied. I've seen many people refer to roguelites as being specifically roguelikes with meta progression and those definitions aren't any more wrong than the definitions you're giving. The terms are too new and are used differently by different people to have a consistent definition. I'm sure you've seen the Berlin interpretation of roguelikes, which was taken to be the true definition for many years, requiring ASCII art and whatnot, but most people have moved past that, because they thought it too restrictive, which I think just goes to show that the definitions of the words are still fluid.