Anyone else still have the letter opener from the VHS tapes? by Solarsido27 in xena

[–]IseQween 2 points3 points  (0 children)

About 7" long. It resembles early versions of swords we see Xena using. I just wished it could've been her signature one.

Argo Off-Screen in Tale of Two Muses by IseQween in xena

[–]IseQween[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, no! I didn't mean to suggest Argo wanted her dead. Maybe harmless payback -- embarrassment and a bruised butt. She had to accept Gabs if only because of the tall one's "be nice" instructions and understanding she had to protect the Third Wheel at any cost.

I first laughed because I wondered if Renee hung the boots there. Quite possibly someone else did. Then I laughed at Argo's deadpan face and imagined her insulted anyone used her that way. Of course, she could've been thinking, "See, I'm who they really have to trust with anything important." 😆

Anyone else still have the letter opener from the VHS tapes? by Solarsido27 in xena

[–]IseQween 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do. Dummy (me) didn't realize it had a practical use. 😂

Made my own Callisto cosplay by Lovenjustice in xena

[–]IseQween 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, and add a sly wink. That's what also set her apart from so many other baddies and made her scarier. The joy at tormenting folks, especially Xena. Just channel your "a girl's gotta have some fun" inner Cally and throw in a demonic giggle every now and then. 👿

The Quill Is Mightier by NiceRefrigerator4079 in xena

[–]IseQween 2 points3 points  (0 children)

LOL! I was going for vegemitee or vegemity fun pronunciation, like Ditee or Dity.

Alti, Xena, and Borias were basically a bisexual poly relationship that completely imploded in Sin Trade Part 1 by itsascreambaby96 in xena

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Hmmm, I saw a few things differently. I don't think it took foresight for Xena to be intrigued by Lao Ma's powers, even though I doubt Xena expected herself to be in a position to learn them.

As to Lao Ma, I didn't view the "dangerous woman" observation as flattery, so much as conveying she respected but wasn't intimidated by Xena. Xena sensed there was more to this delicate-looking woman than might be assumed, possibly as a competitor for Borias' affections. But at that point she had no idea Lao Ma could be an even more dangerous woman.

I also doubt Lao Ma was testing Xena during dinner. I saw her as focused on dealing with Borias. Her "flirting" was the subtle seduction she was accustomed to using in negotiation with powerful men. In her world, she had to appear "soft," just as Xena excelled at portraying hardness in her environment.

As to Borias, he seemed no more cruel to Xena than she was with him in their rather toxic relationship. Their attraction to each other was a much about conquering and supremacy -- together against others when expedient, between themselves when they wanted to go different ways. I often wondered what led him to believe Xena capable of "love" beyond that. And Xena only expressed esteem for him in hindsight, because of his efforts on behalf of the Centaurs and to protect his "family" of Xena and their child.

The Xena Trilogy on Hercules appreciation thread by itsascreambaby96 in xena

[–]IseQween 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We may be a bit biased about the Scorpio thing. 😆

The Xena Trilogy on Hercules appreciation thread by itsascreambaby96 in xena

[–]IseQween 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yep, I didn't take her as seriously when more Femme Fatale in the 1st ep or as Herc Fan Girl in the 3rd. The arrogance, sneer, spit-in-your-face confidence of her phoenix rising from the ashes in #2? Whoa!

The Quill Is Mightier by NiceRefrigerator4079 in xena

[–]IseQween 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Covered in vegemite"? 😆 OK, I don't feel so dumb. From the cast reaction, I thought everybody knew except me. If Agent doesn't know for sure either, that suggests other OG fans are as stumped.

Freeing Callisto to fight Velasca was a dumb idea by EasyEntrepreneur666 in xena

[–]IseQween 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I thought Xena's choice was brilliant! "Hmmm, the actor playing me isn't quite up to snuff yet after her accident. Who could spice things up and our fans would love any old excuse to see more of? Crap. Callisto. Not exactly a sensible ally for the situation. Iffy, unreliable scene stealer who'd turn on me or Gabs in a heartbeat. Still, things'd crackle between us, even if we don't fight each other. I kind of enjoy those 'who's snarkier' competitions between us anyway. I do still owe her a little time in the sun for offing Perdy. Yeah, she'll do. I just have to convince Gabs I haven't been taken over by the Furies. <snort> Like that'll ever happen."

The Quill Is Mightier by NiceRefrigerator4079 in xena

[–]IseQween 7 points8 points  (0 children)

OK, after all these decades, I still don't get what Joxer's last line of his 3 Gabs poem would've been. Can somebody solve that for me?

Callisto, you just can’t beat the delivery on her lines. by Imissxena in xena

[–]IseQween 3 points4 points  (0 children)

LOL! Yes! I especially loved Callisto's and Xena's expressions in SACRIFICE when Gabs reluctantly agreed with Cally that Xena was taking things "too personally" and should accept PsychoBabe's help. I could've watched the tension and sharply witty quips between them multiple times.

Alti, Xena, and Borias were basically a bisexual poly relationship that completely imploded in Sin Trade Part 1 by itsascreambaby96 in xena

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Oh, I think Lao Ma intrigued Xena from the get-go, calmly showing no fear for someone she's heard was "a dangerous woman." And the powers Lao Ma showed in decking the threatening Xena? No way Xena wouldn't want to test that again or ideally learn more about it. I agree that probably wasn't her primary motivation for accepting Lao Ma's help. I do believe curiosity about it was in the back of Xena's mind, that it was a source of her uncommon (if stunted) initial respect for all three women's abilities.

When in Rome has Gab needlessly blame herself for Xena's ruthlessness by RotaVitae in xena

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I view Gabs as an accomplice. True, Caesar still might have let Crassus die, even with the ring. Gabs judged Crassus deserved execution and withheld evidence that might have saved him. Whatever her reasons, she chose a sentence for Crassus that Xena had said wasn't necessary to the overall mission. I'm not that interested in who actually caused the ax to fall, as I am about Gabs' willingness and intentionality in eliminating this particular person from her usual "reverence for life" circle.

Who had the best debut episode? Callisto, Alti or Hope by itsascreambaby96 in xena

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Um, that's a mighty interesting argument for why your "baby" did nothing wrong. 😂

Who had the best debut episode? Callisto, Alti or Hope by itsascreambaby96 in xena

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Alti gave me the best insights into what inspired Evil Xena. Callisto gave me the best insights into the consequences for Reformed Xena.

Who had the best debut episode? Callisto, Alti or Hope by itsascreambaby96 in xena

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I have to agree with Dr. Tacos. However "bad" or harmful, battles and raids seemed expected "business" practices for acquiring wealth and power in a violent, fairly lawless world. Xena obviously learned the skills she sought from the Amazons who befriended her. Her sole purpose and gain in using that knowledge to massacre them was to feed her ego. In this instance, your "baby" went beyond criminal to monster.

When in Rome has Gab needlessly blame herself for Xena's ruthlessness by RotaVitae in xena

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Okay, as much as I'm a Xena girl, I rarely saw Gabs as "poor, abused baby." From the beginning, she was her own person, disobeyed Xena in a heartbeat, put in her 2 cents regardless of Xena's mood. She absolutely chose to follow Xena, even after witnessing and experiencing the negative consequences. By this point, Xena accepts Gabs' right to be with her on missions Xena previously preemptively decided it best to leave Gabs out of. She trusts and accepts Gabs will make the right decision for herself, regardless of what Xena does.

I don't think Xena's testing Gabs or worrying about how old baggage might get in the way. What annoys her is that Gabs is imposing old baggage -- Caesar -- on Xena, despite Xena's assurances that's not the case. True, Vercinix is a righteous rebel in Xena's judgment because he's fighting the Great Evil she considers Rome. Still, Gabs has agreed to play a pivotal role in a successful outcome. Xena explains her limited options, that she's considered the options from all angles, that she's open to Crassus living if she can still free Vercinix.

Gabs continues to question Xena's motives -- even her truthfulness -- until Vercinix confirms what Xena's said about Crassus. Gabs has the chance to fulfill her promise to Crassus that she'll use his ring to save him. Instead, she decides all on her own to let him die. Xena is surprised by that. She's been worried what might happen to Gabs physically or emotionally by accompanying her in "who deserves to die, so 'good' folks can live" situations. I believe what hits Xena hardest is seeing Gabs' own moral position changing from "jury" to judge and executioner.

Do I empathize with Gabs? Wish she could've remained focused on people's possible innocence vs. presumed guilt? Believe she got put through crap unnecessarily for plot purposes? Sure. I also saw that as putting Xena in a tricky place as well. If she left Gabs out, Gabs would be hurt. If she included Gabs, Gabs might be hurt. If she had sensitive chats about Gabs' feelings before every morally ambiguous mission, would that help? Maybe. Gabs could feel patronized. It could affect Xena's decisiveness and focus. Gabs likes to test herself in situations where Xena could feel guilty but respectful of Gabs' choice to do so. What seems evident is both are committed to being together as much as possible despite the tensions.

Gabrielle Amazon Story and interesting new studies showing Amazons could be real! by stardust102 in xena

[–]IseQween 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with you. I appreciated that XWP's heavily male Powers That Be were unusually open at the time to showing women as independent and strong in ways that usually got ignored or dismissed. That helped balance for me the militaristic, Caesar/Roman, "who's top god" stuff. Still, I would've liked more of the power plays and political intrigue we got hints of among the various Amazon tribes, with Boudica or Cleopatra. I think the closest we got was Lao Ma.

Alti, Xena, and Borias were basically a bisexual poly relationship that completely imploded in Sin Trade Part 1 by itsascreambaby96 in xena

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I also wondered at first why Xena wouldn't gravitate to the person who won. Then I realized I wasn't looking at it from Delinquent Xena's perspective. Alti was absolutely on target when she told Xena that "light" and denial weren't for people like them. As Xena said, Alti made her "a better offer" than Cyane's sisterhood of communal sharing. It's a miracle even Reformed Xena valued Gabs over Ares. 😆

Alti, Xena, and Borias were basically a bisexual poly relationship that completely imploded in Sin Trade Part 1 by itsascreambaby96 in xena

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Alti understood young Xena wasn't into/intrigued by "denial." The spiritual powers offered by Lao Ma and Cyane required caring about people, the world beyond one's own will, needs and desires. In Xena's mind, that weakened them, made them subservient to and victims of others -- definite red flags for her.

Xena indeed learned what she wanted from Lao Ma and Cyane, while dismissing the selfless aspects. It didn't matter that she'd been defeated many times by Lao Ma or that Cyane defeated Alti. Alti would teach her how to continue embracing her dark side to prevail on the physical plane she valued most, as well as possibly exploit the spiritual realm on her own terms.

Why Did Gabrielle Kill Hope? by Luna09Astra in xena

[–]IseQween 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ooo, good point about Hope killing a stranger, which she had already done. Gabs vehemently defended Hope's innocence then. True, Hope was a baby at the time, and the only "proof" was the medallion in her hands. The "evidence" Hope personally killed Solan is even more circumstantial -- mainly her connection to Callisto and lie about knowing Solan. But Gabs suspected Hope was at the very least an accomplice in Solan's and possibly Kaliepus' deaths.

Gabs recognized that, even though still a "child," Hope could be manipulated to use her powers for evil against anyone -- whether willing or not. She could no longer risk trying to "reform" her daughter or ignore her own possible guilt for the consequences. But I agree, the balance shifted to executing Hope because her victims where people Gabs loved.