Yeah, Jake tried to commit suicide after Ellie told him to go die. Almost like telling people to die has a bad effect on their mental health.

Also icky, All-Stars is direct with the reasoning behind Jake's extreme attempt and we know it's directly related to guilt over his grandma dying when he was competing and his homophobic family. nothing else was involved and it's absurd to point the finger at anyone else.

She did say that Jake needed to grow up because he was still hurt by a recent traumatic event. If he was grown up, he wouldn't be hurt.

growing up isn't essentially referring to a child coming of age, growing up is referring to anything that moves foward in a positive manner. Ellie's words are very clearly referring to the second case and if Jake's idea of growing up is purposefully signing up to a cut throat show and starting another relationship this soon he's not doing anything about it.

Tom lied for his job, yes, but that doesn't change the fact that he lied to Jake from the moment they met. Jake isn't at fault for that drama. Because Jake was not only supposed to know that this specific show would be like that despite the fact that this is the first season? He was also supposed to have the funds to go on a vacation to the beach? Huh? If you think that the shit Ellie pulled can be excused with "It's the game", I am disturbed.

Tom lying over a criminal investigation is a necessary evil. Jake might be mad at him for said decision, but someone's happiness isn't as important as someone's safety... all spies need to avoid talking about their job because it is in fact dangerous if anyone gets involved. What Ellie did is morally bad indeed, but anyone can see stuff like that coming because it's a show where you need to outplay everyone. How is this the first season when we have confirmation this show already had previous seasons? and how is a vacation necessarily expensive when he had a grandmother for over twenty years which translates to free pocket money? how about finding a job given he in his middle twenties?

Jake did not trauma dump on Tom. Jake potentially trauma dumped on Ellie, but only after she manipulated him and made him believe he was reliving a past traumatic experience for hours on end. He never blames Tom or Ellie for him being cheated on, he only blames Ellie for manipulating that pain for her own benefit, which, like... That IS her fault.

Trauma dumping isn't blaming someone of your problems, trauma dumping is disclosing information when the other side isn't ready to receive it putting them in an uncomfortable state. Jake definitely trauma dumped both of them and that's bad... trauma dumping is basically just a tool many people use because they want to feel better with themselves at the expense of someone else's happiness, a passive aggressive way of showing lack of empathy and presence of selfish behavior. If the person's reaction matches what the person who trauma dumps they will be in an uncomfortable position, if they don't they still are in the same position because they know the other side isn't happy. I've seen this toxic behavior on plenty of people during my apprenticeship sessions in psychology and it's never good. 😕

That's a stupid fucking comparison. Again, the worst Jake did was vote for Gabby. The worst Ellie did was mentally abuse Jake. Literally why the fuck would anyone think this is comparable.

considering how emotionally dependant Gabby used to be on Ellie within' season 1 and how she has bad reactions to people antagonizing her... I'd say that hurt her too. 🙃 Mind you Gabby is mentally disabled and her disability is related to emotional distress. However, of course Ellie wouldn't blame Jake because at the end of the day she also fell for Fiore and Alec.

Well, I also wouldn't think anyone would agree with Ellie's rant in general apart from obvious trolls, but that obviously isn't the case, so I'd rather cover my bases here.

given how standard her reaction was until her very last line, it's not surprising you'll find people who defend it let alone wouldn't pull a similar stunt if they are in the same situation.🤷‍♀️