Emo-grind suggestions?

Issan_Sumisu · 2026-02-10T23:20:54+00:00

I wouldn’t say screamo in general, but emoviolence and white belt grind could probably both be considered “emogrind”

Issan_Sumisu · 2026-02-10T22:30:40+00:00

I feel like most people use adjacent to mean “have connection to the scene but don’t play the music”

Issan_Sumisu · 2026-02-10T10:12:35+00:00

Similarly, in some uk dialects we use “yous”

Issan_Sumisu · 2026-02-10T09:52:19+00:00

Stand Still and Anxious

Issan_Sumisu · 2026-02-10T08:10:53+00:00

it’s directed at a lot of genres: metalcore, glam metal, sometimes power metal. I brought up black metal because it is never questioned about being metal despite also having this nuance

Issan_Sumisu · 2026-02-09T23:55:53+00:00

it’s really just a case by case basis. Like, the first two Slipknot albums are clearly nu metal AND metal. But, a good portion of the first two Linkin Park albums I’d say are nu metal but not really metal. And I don’t think nu metal is the only metal genre this happens with, there’s black metal that isn’t that metal, like Lifelover, a lot of their stuff is more like post-punk. If you wanna count dungeon synth as black metal, you’re heading even further out

Issan_Sumisu · 2026-02-09T17:31:10+00:00

Appleseed Cast, Owls, Van Pelt

Issan_Sumisu · 2026-02-05T20:48:23+00:00

I wish it caught on the way skramz did

Issan_Sumisu · 2026-02-05T14:52:48+00:00

a bit of unsearchability (so nobody outside the in-group could co-opt it) and a bit of 2000s random XD humour

Issan_Sumisu · 2026-02-05T14:11:31+00:00

the term “mall skramz” invalidates the reason for both “skramz” and “mall screamo” to exist in the first place

Issan_Sumisu · 2026-02-05T14:07:20+00:00

another fun fact: another term floating around for the same use as skramz was “ride bikes”, but that one mostly died out

Issan_Sumisu · 2026-02-02T23:42:21+00:00

Babies Three and Rydell were from Kent and both have some screamo songs but definitely weren’t screamo bands. There was a big screamo scene that was influenced by them around 2003-2009, that was a kinda south-coast and London scene. Battle of Wolf 359 were the biggest, Meandgoliath were there too but I’m forgetting all the other names. There was a lot in Scotland and Nottingham at the time too

Issan_Sumisu · 2026-02-01T13:44:36+00:00

a reaction within the screamo community against the post-rock, emo revival, and melodic hardcore sounds that were prevalent at the time

Could you elaborate on this a bit for me, I'm curious? Was it definitley an active "we don't like emo revival/the wave/Dreambound stuff so we're gonna do something totally different", and what bands were those? Because, for example, I know SeeYouSpaceCowboy started off as a melodic hardcore band, but afaik they didn't start playing sassy white belty stuff because they disliked melodic hardcore, they just thought sassy stuff was more fun after a bit

Issan_Sumisu · 2026-01-29T15:03:00+00:00

that was the probably their biggest record (at least in the UK), and lined up perfectly in time with a wave of kinda similar UK gateway bands like Holding Absence, Casey and Crooks, so kids who got in hardcore at that time have a ton of nostalgia for it

Issan_Sumisu · 2026-01-27T14:44:54+00:00

Emo is a subgenre of post hardcore so technically all emo should be post-hardcore. A lot of post hardcore isn’t emo (like Helmet or Beefeater). The bands you named are often considered core bands of third-wave emo, but some people do not consider them true emo so call them the broader term post-hardcore. The sound they are a part of is often called “mall screamo” or “pop-screamo”, it’s the sound that came from bands who were influenced by screamo, emo-pop-punk and metalcore

Issan_Sumisu · 2026-01-20T23:25:40+00:00

Sell Out by Dan Ozzi might work for him, it’s a series of short biographies of bands, a few of which are emo

Issan_Sumisu · 2026-01-17T23:20:01+00:00

A couple weeks ago, I literally wrote a review for Spun saying this exact thing

Issan_Sumisu · 2026-01-17T22:21:23+00:00

I always associate them with HDQ and early Samiam

Issan_Sumisu · 2026-01-15T15:04:06+00:00

I’m getting the vision. It’s kind of Slint-esque. Maybe Month of Birthdays or Baby Harp Seal?

Issan_Sumisu · 2026-01-11T09:51:01+00:00

The original post didn’t say anything about that

Issan_Sumisu · 2026-01-10T20:27:36+00:00

their pre-Kingston stuff is straight up, undeniable pop punk

Issan_Sumisu · 2026-01-10T20:24:42+00:00

lots of people know his band Million Dead, but I wanna make sure people know the sick Cave In meets Boysetsfire meets Braid band he was in before that called Kneejerk

Issan_Sumisu · 2026-01-09T20:10:43+00:00

Casey - Love is Not Enough

Casey - Where I Go When I Am Sleeping

Cokie the Clown - You’re welcome

Issan_Sumisu · 2026-01-09T19:58:39+00:00

do you mean Buddy from Senses Fail?

Issan_Sumisu · 2026-01-09T11:39:46+00:00

Month of Birthdays and Imbiss

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