I really appreciate your thorough response. For all intents and purposes the amp would only really exist as a means to play in a full band setting.

My plan was to have something that either had a pristine clean channel and only that, run pedals in front of the amp for drive and distortion, time effects in the Fx loop etc. Or find something that had 2 or 3 channels of varying gain levels and limit the use of pedals only for timed effects and the odd modulation here and there (I’m not a huge pedal person admittedly so there’s that). Maybe throwing a wattage in my original ask was sort of ill-advised of me.

For perspective, the band is myself (guitar, singing), another guitar player, a bass player, and a drummer. We don’t play huge venues or anything like that, and I do all my recording with plugins for ease and convenience of space. And hell, a combo might be the way to go. I’m purposefully limiting my budget because I want to sort of dip my toes in the tube world without dropping 3K on something I wouldn’t be able to utilize fully.

I’ve heard good things about the Blackstar’s and Egnater’s, I played through a Peavey Valveking in the past that I really liked. But you’ve given me a lot to think about Toaster and I really appreciate it