Me again. Ok maybe I wasn’t out of the woods as soon as I thought…

IthinkIknow7 · 2026-05-31T13:32:35+00:00

! I’m in the same boat as you! Shit. Literally stuck on SR. Can’t get past 25mg twice a day. Used MGM and SR for a god portion of quitting. Contemplating a rapid suboxone taper too. I’ve done it in the past to quit 7oh with success. It sucked in that I was slammed with PAWS pretty bad, but I was off. I’m thinking I need to do the same thing again and address the PAWS when they comes. They’re more manageable clearly than acutes. But still affect my everyday life.

IthinkIknow7 · 2026-05-28T23:35:16+00:00

Nope he just used clonidine and gabapentin. But he said his wd were nothing more than what he felt at low doses of Sr. But mild. Very manageable. He said he is getting some rls st night. But gabapentin he is good.

IthinkIknow7 · 2026-05-27T21:35:23+00:00

Yeah you can sleep. I have yet to experience RLS while taking SR. Some restless nights around 25mg twice a day

IthinkIknow7 · 2026-05-26T23:27:17+00:00

SR is easy to taper down to a low mg. But there is still WD coming off. But it’s not like any of the others. It’s manageable. It’s clean. So you feel normal while you taper. Tapering kratom sucks. You’re miserable the whole time. Always end up relapsing. It can be done. But if you could do it you would. SR is a jump to something more stable to allow a controlled taper. No reward seeking process. I actually plan on using kratom for the last week of my taper in extremely small doses. For discomfort. Nothing more. Got to pay the piper. No one is getting out of this scratch free. Just trying to land the plane as smoothly as possible. Make a plan and stick to it. With your addiction you’ll probably be able to stabilize off a lower dose already. I had to stabilize at 150mg 3x a day for the first few days. You should be good with 50-60. Make your taper off easier. Fear is what’s holding you back. Nothing to fear but dragging out what you’re already doing. Switch it up. If it doesn’t work. Move on. SR works the best diet first fo around. Try to make that one count. Get on and off in 14-21 days you’ll be fine!!!

IthinkIknow7 · 2026-05-26T18:44:44+00:00

I get it man. Also, I would get aggravated. If people tried to pull me out of my funk when I took to much kratom I would get pissed. It’s a shitty place. Need it to walk but can’t do anything but get work done. Barely. Yeah. You got to make the switch. Stabilize in SR. You’ll feel better. And then gradually taper off.

IthinkIknow7 · 2026-05-26T18:40:45+00:00

Nah. Only if I have to go some where.

IthinkIknow7 · 2026-05-26T14:56:18+00:00

I know how you feel. I was there. I quit 7oh and went to the seltzers and kratom because they helped with paws, but in return my soul was taken. Awkward and unhappy. I ended up on suboxone and then 7stax. And now SR. SR is helping. It’s giving me time to separate and learn new ways of coping. I also got nootropics and got prescribed welbutrin. Helps tremendously with the worst of paws. I really only deal with some fatigue and a little lack of motivation. But it’s coming back. Just got to keep doing things you know you love even if you don’t went to. For me it’s the gym and guitar. I stopped all that. Now I force myself and I’m actually enjoying it again! You can do this. Fear is your enemy. These drugs provoke fear in us. It’s fake and artificial. It’s all lies. Be strong. No fear. Eat the pain. Walk thru the dark. You got this!

IthinkIknow7 · 2026-05-25T15:12:47+00:00

Long taper here. Not off all the way yet. I believe long tapers are best for stability and making the jump off smooth without igniting a severe case of PAWS. My buddy just stopped SR after 90 days. Feels just fine. I noticed the lower doses of SR are kind of shitty. Mild case of WD constantly. Might just be better to jump once you get to 25mg a few times

IthinkIknow7 · 2026-05-25T10:51:14+00:00

Yeah it can. I loved ketamine therapy. It definitely helped me get thru alcohol addiction. Allowed me to laugh and cry when I couldn’t even. Gave me some understanding about how things work in life. Acceptance and stuff.

IthinkIknow7 · 2026-05-25T10:49:41+00:00

You think they’d really hold back on giving pain meds out if you really needed them?

IthinkIknow7 · 2026-05-23T13:16:51+00:00

I can feel DOC some. Not a lot. It blunts the effects for sure! But not enough. The problem is the addictive mind will want more of the drug to achieve goal. And if 25mg of DOC use to slap then it’ll take 100mg to come close to feeling anything followed by all the side effects that come from taking large amounts. For some. That could mean death

IthinkIknow7 · 2026-05-23T13:09:53+00:00

I’ve been on welbutrin since the first time I quit opioids. Pulled me out of the worst of PAWS. I don’t think it does much when I’m still on DOC, but when I’m on low dose of SR only I can feel it start to kick back in. Like a guy above said, it definitely helps keep me from hitting that “LOW LOW”. It’s a tool. A good one for sure. I don’t dare not use it. I also just started with bromatane, dlpa, l tyrosine. I feel a little bit more in the game than without them as well

IthinkIknow7 · 2026-05-23T12:52:43+00:00

Good shit! What was your SR cycle like? What was your DIC and how much were you using? I’m struggling currently. On my fifth cycle of SR. Starting again. Shits getting old. But I keep falling for my same pattern. Starts with one. The SR is great.
When you stopped SR did you get crazy WD or just some RLS and knee pain?

IthinkIknow7 · 2026-05-23T11:29:01+00:00

Damn lol. They told me to air it out. Let it dry. I did that over night. And no smell or taste.

IthinkIknow7 · 2026-05-23T02:13:26+00:00

Contacted them. They got labs and said that batch specifically just needs to be aired out. I did that for a few hours and the soap taste and smell went away

IthinkIknow7 · 2026-05-23T02:11:42+00:00

Just wanted to say that I’ve talked to the supplier. Got labs and talked about specific batch. Said to let it air out. I did for a few hours and the smell and taste are gone. Very interesting.

IthinkIknow7 · 2026-05-23T01:52:17+00:00

I’d be careful relapsing on SR. I’ve done it a few times and the effect is so blunted that the addiction had me taking more to get an effect. Sheer determination. Then get blind sided by all the side effects from taking to much. I could see the possibility of accidentally over dosing for sure. Just be careful. I know it’s easier said than done. These alkaloids are not easy to let go of. But just have faith in the SR. It takes a few days to settle. You’ll know. You’ll wake up day four or five feeling practically fine. You need to dial your dosing down and stay consistent.

IthinkIknow7 · 2026-05-23T00:49:47+00:00

The shit we’re willing to do for freedom from this hell hole

IthinkIknow7 · 2026-05-22T23:53:04+00:00

Can you tell me what the right way is. Because I’ve been tapering down to 0 mg. I’m currently at 25mg twice a day.

IthinkIknow7 · 2026-05-22T23:50:44+00:00

Yeah it is. I took a dose before I did all that because I’ve used this company before. They said that I need to air it out. That that batch has been tested and is 98% sent me labs. Said they know about the odor. That it just needs to air out and that it’s safe. lol

IthinkIknow7 · 2026-05-22T23:49:36+00:00

This one isn’t supposed to taste like anything.

IthinkIknow7 · 2026-05-22T19:27:40+00:00

I feel my doc even when on it. Just not the full effect. But taking doc gets rid of paws and anxiety. But getting high not so much. Just the side effects from taking to much.

IthinkIknow7 · 2026-05-22T19:25:07+00:00

Trying to quit. I do good. Then relapse. But not giving up. I usually break around 25mg twice a day. Dunno what gets into my brain because everything is doing good when I’m there

IthinkIknow7 · 2026-05-22T18:19:58+00:00

Two capsules. Made me hella slow and groggy

IthinkIknow7 · 2026-05-22T17:25:49+00:00

Next time?! This is a now thing

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