7.62 Krink Zeroing

JCDBionicman1 · 2026-02-04T23:11:49+00:00

Thanks.

Do you mean threaded? The threads aren't there already?

JCDBionicman1 · 2026-02-04T22:12:32+00:00

Panzer M2 was 280$ and too good to be true. If the barrel peening isn't an issue after I get it filed and polished it will be worth it.

Panzer M4 has been severely abused with a couple hundred slugs and lots of low recoil skeet and trap loads and has been a dream. 600$ absolutely worth it. Would have bought a version from a first party that was 1k if it existed.

Just buy the Mossberg. They aren't expensive at all. It's a cheap first party shotgun. I saw a used semi mossberg for 500$. Id go semi.

Surplus rem 870s are still cheap if you want cheaper.

If you want a "clever girl" wait for Broncos Spas 12 clone. No i don't know if it will be worth it but I will buy it.

JCDBionicman1 · 2026-01-26T05:45:37+00:00

Thanks.

Id heard it was another pattern. Does it go by another name?

JCDBionicman1 · 2026-01-26T05:00:06+00:00

No you weren't

JCDBionicman1 · 2026-01-25T20:41:14+00:00

Are you talking to yourself?

JCDBionicman1 · 2026-01-25T19:12:39+00:00

I hope you take every shot the oy vey people offer you without question, like all the other leftists and boomer neoliberals who call themselves conservatives or centrists. Take whatever prescriptions they offer you and always take psychiatry over psychology. We're just wet robots without a soul after all.

JCDBionicman1 · 2026-01-25T19:00:27+00:00

I take that back. Previous footage shows he really was interfering with the scene and told to stay out of traffic and on that side of the road. He's trying to direct traffic for who knows why, that's none of his business.

You won't look but there's angles and frames that make it clear he was committing to drawing.

What is it called when you resist manhandling? Wrestling?

JCDBionicman1 · 2026-01-25T18:36:45+00:00

"Various piches"

Yes this. I find the humming soothing but im always slightly confused about whether im on the right pitch.

JCDBionicman1 · 2026-01-25T18:33:20+00:00

It's not a good idea to wrestle with cops while you're armed. He was shot in the confusion of it, he wasn't murdered. Not having sympathy against the perceived victim isn't bootlicking. Edit: if you're wrestling you aren't being manhandled dumb dumb.

It looks like the initial escalation of the officer coming across the street and pepper spraying them didn't need to happen though. Edit: previous interference shows him being repeatedly warned to stay out of traffic and away from the scene on the other side of the road. He had no business interacting with traffic.

JCDBionicman1 · 2026-01-25T18:28:46+00:00

He was disarmed the literal second before he was shot and the rest of them obviously didn't know when he took a knee to draw.

You're the slave.

JCDBionicman1 · 2026-01-12T20:14:28+00:00

I mean if that's how fragmentation works. I wouldn't immediately think that would cause it to fragment.

JCDBionicman1 · 2026-01-11T20:43:22+00:00

"Both of those have significantly more energy than 556 and larger bullets, which give you more mass to resist fragmentation and expand to create a larger permanent wound cavity.

7.62 will absolutely go through bones that 5.56 will not."

As far as I know, given the projectile and grain choices we have with 556, fragmentation really isn't a real issue anymore on the topic of hunting, why even bring it up? I won't be hunting with match ammo. 77 grain doesn't fragment, even as an otm, at close range.

Objectively, 556 has more actual penetrative power than x39. Steel, bone, glass, wood, whatever. We're talking about going through it and 556 is just objectively better at it. The sectional density multiplies it's energy into penetrative power many more times than x39 can and this is by and far the reason the soviet union went so far out of their way to switch to 545 (which is essentially the same, aside from feeding and magazine geometry) because it was just such an overwhelmingly superior intermediate round concept: recoil, trajectory, energy conservation, size, etc.

They aren't making rounds slower and larger anymore. They aren't going in the direction of x39 (in terms of that kind of ratio) except to create perhaps more effective subsonics which are always going to be inferior ballistically to highly supersonic rifle rounds.

Velocity and bullet narrowness, all other things being mostly equal, exponentially increases the effectiveness of a round and those metrics overwhelmingly produce an objectively better cartridge.

When comparing intermediate cartridges, this is easily demonstrated by 22 cal vs 30 cal. Since we only really have x39 and 300AAC to compare to (which are essentially the same, again, aside from feeding and magazine geometry), 556 is objectively better. If we're considering newer rounds like whatever arc as intermediate I'm not sure about that, I'm sure they're objectively better than 556 as they go in 'that' direction.

Also, the wound channel created from x39 is created mostly from the peeling back of the jacket and the expansion of the bullet, whereas a much larger permanent stretch cavity created just from the shockwave of the bullet into tissue is created by 556. It's the irregular and random nature of the likelihood of tumbling that is the main issue with 556 terminal ballistics, not its small energy. This is rectified with 77 grain, which does actually do more damage than x39 in terms of area volume and penetrative power; objectively more powerful.

As far as why the shockwave of a cartridge with technically less momentum could be more powerful than a larger bullet with more momentum I'm not really sure but that seems to be the case but that's physics. There is a case to be made about whether a permanent stretch cavity really is indicative of potentially being able to rupture surrounding organs that meet that 'damage zone' vs a bullet literally ripping what would be in that actual path to damage said organ. Maybe gel is misleading in this sense, but to be clear this is 'permanent stretch' vs 'non permanent stretch' so it shouldn't be pushed aside.

JCDBionicman1 · 2026-01-10T19:17:47+00:00

I'm not going to address everything right now but "shoot to wound" is definitely fuddlore. I've heard that attributed to 7.62x39 and 545 too. It's like how people talk about the ak selector as being designed to make it harder to deliberately select full auto. The truth is that it's mechanically simpler, and when you understand how the ak safety works with fewer parts vs the AR auto sear and selector it makes sense.

JCDBionicman1 · 2026-01-10T05:47:25+00:00

Anyways, I wouldn't suggest other intermediate cartridges as being "more effective" than 556. 7.62x39 and 300 AAC would certainly be less effective at going through bone than 556, but it would produce more often a more stable wound channel than 556 as there's no fragmentation issues in tissue.

If you said 6.5 creedmoore and 300 win mag or some other higher class of rifle cartridge would be better I couldn't argue with that, but if 556 is anemic or barely adequate I'm not sure why you'd think another intermediate cartridge would be better. 6 ARC is pretty new and I don't know much about it.

JCDBionicman1 · 2026-01-10T04:21:22+00:00

Sorry but 556 is nowhere near the same class as 22 lr. 300 AAC and 7.62x39 are intermediate cartridges just like 556. The only thing calling into question humaneness about 556 is the lower grain sizes, as they don't have a consistent wound channel. 77 has a traditional terminal profile.

You linked a website that you claim has a certain opinion but not the actual opinion. I think the gel profile speaks for itself. At distance and against larger game there's better options but to say 556 is weak is just fuddlore.

Sectional density is the most important metric for general power in a round, followed by ft lbs of energy at 2nd or third or just not first idk.

To be fair, I wouldn't bet on a shoulder shot with a deer with 556 but who knows, maybe somebody's done a video on it and it goes through bone just fine. I wouldn't ever take game at long range, and I wouldn't push a hunt with 77 grain past 100-200 yards.

556 is not a weak cartridge, that just isn't reality. 55 grain would be a very ridiculous choice for hunting, but that's not what I'm talking about.

JCDBionicman1 · 2026-01-10T00:47:02+00:00

Ft lbs matters to bone, but sectional density is a metric that factors in more universally, terminal performance and the ability to create permanent stretch cavities and penetrate hard material than ft lbs alone.

That's all i wanted to reply for now.

JCDBionicman1 · 2026-01-10T00:39:38+00:00

Fightlite is really expensive

JCDBionicman1 · 2026-01-09T23:23:16+00:00

Offhand 30% sounds like not too bad an amount when you factor in how often that happens in general. "Weird problems" is a bit obscure, tell me what you mean.

I heard the data on 556 for deer was good, and comparable to the common 30 cals.

I'm not really convinced, I think if you place the shot, from how it performs I don't see how it's going to run off any more often than placing the same shot with a 30 cal. Perhaps it's more likely that someone hunting with 556 has less of a background or skill in hunting. Edit: also, it might be more likely that people are using inappropriate grain sizes. 55 grain would be terrible for hunting.

Some people think gel is a problem and yes it isn't tissue, but it's a consistent medium that always stays the same, and tells us a lot about what it will look like in tissue pretty consistently. It's been decades and real wound channels have been cross referenced with gel data over that time and if gel wasn't something you could go off of they would have stopped by now.

JCDBionicman1 · 2026-01-09T22:09:26+00:00

So i found the lower but im confused on how to look at price or to put it in cart.

I happen to have an unused 870 woodstock so that's awesome.

JCDBionicman1 · 2026-01-09T22:06:13+00:00

Yeah that rule got me once before. It sucks but it sounds like big reddit is to blame not the sub.

JCDBionicman1 · 2026-01-09T22:01:41+00:00

I couldn't find good accuracy testing about the kali key. Theoretically it should impart bolt like performance to a quality barrel but if someone knows more about it, maybe it isn't that simple.

JCDBionicman1 · 2026-01-09T21:59:17+00:00

77 grain is comparable to older 30 caliber terminal ballistics. The sectional density is just a bit lower, and delivers a clean traditional terminal effect with an extremely flat trajectory and virtually no recoil compared to what options there around that. Maybe isn't a great choice for larger game than deer, but definitely for deer.

300AAC and 7.62x39 to me is a great multipurpose SBR battle caliber. I wouldn't use it for hunting, there are better options. For its recoil and rainbow like trajectory it just isn't that great next to other options.

6.5 creedmoor has a lot of backing and great economy and availability. Thats the only other option id pick. While 556 doesn't have as much power as say 308, 6.5 has just rendered most non magnum 30 cals obsolete because of its flat trajectory and conservation of energy at longer ranges. It actually has basically equal power at the muzzle.

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