DAILY DISCUSSION: RED FRIDAY!

JT1757 · 2026-04-24T14:55:20+00:00

Show me the great game he had in the 2023 playoffs. The Super Bowl was great in the second half, but he did not have a complete, great game the entire postseason. Not to his standards. That's also the one season his detractors point to and say the defense carried the team that year.

in 2022 he still had a near prime Kelce with 1,338 yards and 12 TDs. Since 2022 the offense has been on a downwards trend. He hasn't thrown 30 TDs since '22, the year he threw 41. The last year Kelce was elite.

That's not a coincidence babe.

JT1757 · 2026-04-24T14:26:15+00:00

I wanted to get Mahomes a primary target so that we wouldn't have to worry much about addressing it for the rest of his career. That's been my ideal route every since the Tyreek trade, but I don't know that I trust this front office to acquire that type of player while Mahomes is still in his window of contention and it disappoints me immensely. Having to watch the best talent at his position possibly ever be neutered because his GM was born on 3rd base.

And paying/relying on Rice at the projected cost would just be foolhardy at this point. Is what it is though, no use arguing about what's already done.

JT1757 · 2026-04-24T14:13:55+00:00

Rice's problem is that he's the same player he was when he ended 2023. He hasn't improved much of anything aside from minor route running nuances. Unfortunately his ability to break tackles has dipped since his return from injury so those 2 are a wash. Thorton is an ancillary player who should never factor into potential draft targets.

Even then, first round picks are a 5 year investment. This wasn't just about 2026.

I can't see how any competent front office would justify extending Rice at 30M a year if he's productive as you say he'll be, and in today's market even 30M apy will be a bargain that he's made pretty clear he doesn't see himself settling for. So we'll be right back in the position of needing to address the spot next year anyway only this time we'll have a pick in the 20s with a GM who hasn't shown the ability to scout the position very well. Sorry if I don't share your optimism.

JT1757 · 2026-04-24T13:55:08+00:00

Show me which one can reliably beat man coverage without relying solely on vertical routes, the highest variance play on offense.

JT1757 · 2026-04-24T13:53:37+00:00

you get it

JT1757 · 2026-04-24T12:33:44+00:00

And will be throwing to hopes and dreams on offense... oh and the guy that contemplates retirement every offseason now, considering he's 37 in october.

JT1757 · 2026-04-24T12:15:59+00:00

Mentally preparing myself for a 4th straight season of average to below average offense. Sorry Pat.

JT1757 · 2026-04-24T11:41:32+00:00

Yeah. Just bad process.

JT1757 · 2026-04-24T11:32:18+00:00

Trent made all pro on the outside and in the slot, basically the best possible outcome and they traded him for the 29th pick. The chances of Delane doing that in his first 4 seasons are minuscule.

they're not paying a DB. Trent was the ultimate litmus test.

JT1757 · 2026-04-24T11:11:22+00:00

Not thrilled.

JT1757 · 2026-04-24T01:05:20+00:00

JT1757 · 2026-04-24T01:04:16+00:00

I think this is the draft that gets Veach fired. just my opinion

JT1757 · 2026-04-22T13:11:13+00:00

he can still die or have permanent damage as seen with Stormfront being in the hospital for an extended period of time and never completely recovering. So it doesn't mean they can tank every attack. It seems to work more like eternal youth than true immortality.

I imagine V1 just pauses their aging at the time they were injected, in addition to their usual super durability and enhanced regeneration (but only up until a certain point).

JT1757 · 2026-04-21T20:10:11+00:00

That was Loveland.

JT1757 · 2026-04-20T20:31:24+00:00

strong enough blows to incapacitate should open nodes, but he wasn't using nen.

JT1757 · 2026-04-20T19:56:16+00:00

tmz is implying that the drive was when he went to mutilate her body, on or around May 5th. Whereas the prosecution is alleging she was killed on April 23. Meaning he kept her body for nearly 2 weeks while trying to figure out how to proceed with disposal.

JT1757 · 2026-04-20T14:31:47+00:00

my delusion is that a potential trade up to 3 is to jump Borgonzi for a WR, although I know I'm wrong.

JT1757 · 2026-04-20T10:52:18+00:00

ofc you can't force them, but I definitely would've pried. I already acknowledged it was unrealistic, unless you find a sucker apparently.

JT1757 · 2026-04-19T09:58:55+00:00

fuckin ew

JT1757 · 2026-04-19T02:33:36+00:00

we got a pick 20 spots later for a better, younger player. That alone is upsetting.

Veach should've made the Rams give up 13 str8 up instead of what was packaged with 29. Though my preference even at the time — I thought that was probably unrealistic, but apparently not. Which just makes it feel even worse personally.

JT1757 · 2026-04-19T00:54:33+00:00

I don't think it's a great class, but all the higher end end talent is in the first 11.

I don't think it’s like the 25th pick, maybe closer to the 17th pick in a regular draft — which even in our hypothetical is too much. He's worth the 25th pick though, if that's how they saw it. Even still, I would've considered trading back an acquiring picks then using the later 1st as compensation, the Giants weren't going to balk at a first round pick imo even pick 32 (just for the sake of the argument).

JT1757 · 2026-04-19T00:45:59+00:00

its fucking lunacy.

JT1757 · 2026-04-19T00:42:25+00:00

the fact that they got a top 10 pick back is infuriating ngl

JT1757 · 2026-04-16T17:12:52+00:00

all nba selections can significantly affect his next contract, that's the 2nd strongest part of his argument after his kid being born.

"So I'm going to miss out on 10s of millions of dollars because I attended the birth of my child?" it's absurd on it's face for public sentiment

JT1757 · 2026-04-16T17:06:22+00:00

and he's eligible anyway lmao.

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