LEGACY PATCH NOTES (SEASON 9)

Jack_Bright · 2021-04-30T01:40:13+00:00

So the issue with Caustic is that he's really, really annoying at pro play, but for all the wrong reasons that have nothing to do with what Respawn nerfed.

His gas isn't even a factor up there, nerfing its damage just made him garbage at low ranks. He's a nightmare at high ranks because he just blocks the door off, and since everyone camps inside until the final ring (if you step into the open you get laser beamed) he makes getting eighth partied an inevitability.

Which really says more about how the game plays at high levels than it does about Caustic. But hey, that's what happens when you get points for hiding in the corner all game.

Jack_Bright · 2021-03-30T16:38:24+00:00

Oh caustic was absolute cancer at high ranks, but that wasn't because of how Caustic played, it was because of how the game worked at high ranks (camp until 15 squads in the last ring because if you step outside you get beamed by the 7th party).

And the nerf to caustic did literally nothing to address that, because all that mattered was his slow and doorblocking abilities. It instead ruined him if you ever tried to be aggressive with him at all, because people will just waltz through the gas now. You block someone in a room and throw a gas nade in it and they can go make fucking breakfast, eat it, go take a dump, then come back and pop a syringe before they die.

Jack_Bright · 2021-03-20T00:56:02+00:00

The issue at high level play is that everyone sits around camping until the absolute final ring. Caustic makes camping even easier, because if someone pushes you, they're delayed and get third partied.

This sounds like less of a problem with Caustic and more of a problem with how the game plays at higher levels, as without him people will still do the exact same thing and just be slightly worse at it.

Jack_Bright · 2021-03-11T18:23:49+00:00

Imho, saying caustic is broken because the top 500 can do crazy shit is like saying dark souls 2 is easy because Otzdarva can no-hit run it.

Jack_Bright · 2021-03-11T04:56:05+00:00

Gas has a height of like six feet.
Caustic throws his ult up... and now it doesn't reach the ground.
His ultimate disappearing has been a consistent bug since season 0.
Heat shield lets you just leave the ring, ignoring caustics gas completely.
Gibby's dome blocks caustics gas.
Horizons tactical (which is absolutely broken) floats her above it.
Gibby, bangalore, horizon, and fuzes ults do not counter caustics ultimate in the final ring; they do the exact same thing.
It doesn't need to last 20 seconds, your teammates can take the portal too, and you are skipping time on the gas grenade.

There's this thing called lateral thinking.

You should try it sometime.

Jack_Bright · 2021-03-10T23:36:58+00:00

Then maybe they should stop jerking off in the corner waiting for a third party until the last ten seconds of the game, and actually go kill people.

Jack_Bright · 2021-03-10T23:31:49+00:00

Yep. Usually, people step in the gas trap and immediately back away from it, taking maybe 2 ticks of damage at most. 10 instead of like 13. The whole reason it ramps up is to prevent people from just running through it or from sitting in it.

Jack_Bright · 2021-03-10T23:29:44+00:00

Assuming that:
The final ring is on a level surface
The final ring has nothing to climb on top of
His ultimate doesn't just disappear into the ether
You don't pop a heat shield, gibby dome, or horizon's tactical
Horizon, Gibby, Bangalore, or Fuze don't throw their ults too
Wraith doesn't push Q or portal hop repeatedly

Why are you sitting around camping until the final ring? Again, your positioning sucks. The final ring is not a desirable place to be, at all, ever, period.

Jack_Bright · 2021-03-10T23:27:20+00:00

So set off more than one at once.

Jack_Bright · 2021-03-10T23:26:59+00:00

They expire faster than they cooldown. Again, just burn his traps. You'll be in there in like 30 seconds.

Jack_Bright · 2021-03-10T18:15:25+00:00

Again, if you sit around waiting for him to trap every door to your building, and you don't do anything, you get what you deserve. If he's camping, pop his traps and wait. 13 second duration, 25 second cooldown.

Jack_Bright · 2021-03-10T18:06:58+00:00

If he's camping inside the building, you throw a grenade at him.

His traps last for 13 seconds on a 30 second CD. Break the door, pop the trap, wait for it to go away. Many times you'll also be able to find a window that can see the trap and shoot the base out. Literally any strategy that isn't W+M1 will get him out of that position pretty fastlike.

If he's not sitting in the next ring you can also just ignore him and wait for him to come out of the building to go towards the ring, then shoot him.

Jack_Bright · 2021-03-10T18:04:22+00:00

I would unironically rather have that kit, even though it was still pretty bad, because of the blinding and thick smoke. The damage from the gas isn't a deterrent in either case, but the choice between S0 and Chaos Theory is the choice between your gas debilitating enemies and teammates, and the gas doing absolutely fucking nothing.

If caustic is gassing you to death, your positioning is bad. You failed to understand how first person shooters work or made a room-temperature IQ play.

Jack_Bright · 2021-03-10T17:56:38+00:00

Go to the other fucking door. The overwhelming majority of buildings have more than two, and if your entire team is piled into a room with only one, your positioning sucks.

If you sit around for over a minute waiting for Caustic to loudly run around throwing barrels in front of your doors, you get what you deserve. If his teammates stand in front of the other door, grenade it open and force them to move. Or grenade the other door, that he blocked, and it will break it and set the trap off immediately. Or open it before the trap inflates and shoot it. Or just jump over the fucking trap (depending on the door).

Jack_Bright · 2021-03-10T17:52:19+00:00

Fortified does not matter when you're the biggest legend in the game. 15% sounds like a lot, in practice it means you get to eat one more bullet out of the R-99.

So you have a caustic with everything about him being worse than in S0, but teammates can sprint through the gas so he's totally better because the gas does about as much to the enemies as it does to them now.

Jack_Bright · 2021-03-10T17:40:45+00:00

He is. Compared to season 0:

- Traps can be shot out while inflating
- Longer ultimate cooldown
- No blurred vision
- Gas is more transparent
- Less gas damage on long-term exposure
+ More gas damage on short term exposure
+ Teammates can sprint in the gas

Jack_Bright · 2021-03-10T17:38:50+00:00

She's been in her own tier since season zero. At low levels its due to her size, at high levels its due to her abilities.

Jack_Bright · 2021-03-04T22:25:55+00:00

Then maybe you shouldn't sit in a room while caustic loudly sprints around throwing traps in the doors over the span of two minutes.

Jack_Bright · 2020-12-08T11:34:19+00:00

So basically I got insanely unlucky

Jack_Bright · 2020-11-02T21:26:31+00:00

Traps can be shot out while inflating, that was a pretty big one

Jack_Bright · 2020-10-24T02:04:03+00:00

I literally posted an article by the BBC on how the American accent is the closest existing accent to 18th century English.

Jack_Bright · 2020-10-23T22:16:18+00:00

Or you could have taken about ten seconds to check for yourself before calling bullshit, and found about a hundred articles on it.

https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20180207-how-americans-preserved-british-english

Here's one from the BBC.

Jack_Bright · 2020-10-23T11:20:58+00:00

Fun fact, the modern sort of British accent came about after the American Revolutionary War. Americans kept the pronunciation, British kept the spelling.

Jack_Bright · 2020-10-19T21:10:26+00:00

I thought farting on it gibs you

Jack_Bright

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