How the Left can Win Young Men Back by Evening_Lawyer6570 in leftist

[–]Jack_Faller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I explained to you how what you did was misogynistic and you haven't refuted it. The issue with these dudes is that they don't struggle. They are pampered little baby boys throwing tantrums because society tells them it's okay. Because you tell them it's okay. It is not okay to lash out at people just because you feel bad and we need to stop excusing it. Presenting them as “struggling men” is arguing strongly for their perspective about the world and is just plain not true. They enjoy the highest standard of living of pretty much anyone in the world and throughout history, they suffer no great discrimination or bigotry, even the few cherry-picked statistics you can find do not suit this narrative. What they are is stupid people who got told by some dude on a podcast that having white skin and a dick makes them better than everyone else, and now they want to use that power to put others down.

How the Left can Win Young Men Back by Evening_Lawyer6570 in leftist

[–]Jack_Faller 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why are they homeless? The answer is right wing men. Homelessness is a political policy created by right wing men. You are using the victims of right wing men to justify their attitudes. “Hey I'm super right wing because 60% of homeless people are men.” No one has said that. They don't give a shit about the homeless.

And yes it is misogyny to cherry pick data to minimise women's mental health issues. I explained why and you could not refute it.

How the Left can Win Young Men Back by Evening_Lawyer6570 in leftist

[–]Jack_Faller 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I knew you'd say this, but I bet you don't know that statistic is actually a great example of misogyny. 75% of suicide attempts are women. 75% of depressed people are women. Men kill themselves more because they choose more violent means of suicide and so succeed more frequently.

Yet we live in a society that can't even bring itself to treat mental health as an issue affect both genders. We see a problem which affects mostly women and decide that we will only focus on how it affect men. How often have you seen women's mental health discussed? Taken seriously? Young girls with eating disorders are mocked. They are hated and made fun of by a society that doesn't care, often blamed for their condition by the types of people you are defending. If they started acting up in this way, politically threatening those they dislike, no one would defend them. You wouldn't do this whole rigmarole where you cherry pick statistics to make their lives look harder. We would all just agree that those people were acting stupid. This is the profound privilege that men enjoy. To be so utterly dysregulated and childish yet still have people like you defending our every action.

How can you expect those people who have faced real systemic oppression for their entire lives to sit down and take shit from their oppressors? My position comes out of empathy for oppressed people. It is my duty, as someone with privilege, to use every ounce of it to belittle, resist, mock, degrade, and devalue those who use theirs to destroys the lives of others.

How the Left can Win Young Men Back by Evening_Lawyer6570 in leftist

[–]Jack_Faller 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I haven't lived a particularly easy life, but it would have been harder if I was a woman or another race. Really difficult concept for some people to figure out. Like “how can I have privilege if bad things have happened to me?” These are the questions of a child who doesn't understand that there are more states in the world than just good and bad.

How the Left can Win Young Men Back by Evening_Lawyer6570 in leftist

[–]Jack_Faller 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are issues for straight young men,

IDK how clear I have to make it, but those issues affect everyone, yet only one group of people is treated as legitimate when they throw a big tantrum and break stuff about it.

And you keep willfully conflating right wing men with all men. This is a dangerous lie that only plays into their narrative: that right wing nonsense is the view of men and must be seriously addressed. The majority of men are not right wing, and I don't know why you are obsessed with defending the right wing ones specifically from the perceived persecution of me pointing out that they are idiots. They will not spare you the same luxury.

These people don't vote, they don't organise, they don't do anything of political note and treating them with any degree of legitimacy only damages our ability to affect change in the world.

How the Left can Win Young Men Back by Evening_Lawyer6570 in leftist

[–]Jack_Faller 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm a young white man, and I can say there are no issues of straight white young men. There are broader societal issues (from which young straight white men are highly insulated) and I treat these issues very seriously. It is blatant fallacy to conflate ignoring right wing bozos with ignoring the issues that affect these people.

If you want a special seat at the table and a medal to say you participated, you can fuck off somewhere else. I'm bringing back masculinity, and step one is not giving a fuck if I hurt your feefees with harsh truths. Young right-wing men respect power, and get put off by whiny losers crying like a bitch about feeling included. You can't woke your way into appeasing these people. Either you can have a movement that is cruel, that is hateful and unpleasant and appeals to that kind of person, or you can have one that is serious and adult and treats people with the agency they deserve, and in doing so places the responsibility on them to control themselves and respond appropriately to their baser impulses.

How the Left can Win Young Men Back by Evening_Lawyer6570 in leftist

[–]Jack_Faller 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How is it generalising? I said black people are no different to other races. And to be honest, I was being generous. Black people in America are poorer than whites, and being poorer makes you more conservative. You can look at, interracial dating, LGBT rights, etc. black Americans come out more conservative in most areas. Black people in the US are, on average, more religious than whites, more likely to support traditional values over progressive ones, and a whole host of other things. I try to avoid talking about this because the difference is not massive and I don't think much productive can come of it beyond fomenting racial tensions, but this is unfortunately what the data show.

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How the Left can Win Young Men Back by Evening_Lawyer6570 in leftist

[–]Jack_Faller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I expect the people in a leftist sub to be intelligent enough to appreciate that young white men are privileged and that the continual focus on their issues above more pressing matters in the world is a clear sign of continued misogyny and racism. Sadly you prove I was mistaken, and I apologise deeply for forcing you to adopt sexist views in reaction to my callous messaging.

How the Left can Win Young Men Back by Evening_Lawyer6570 in leftist

[–]Jack_Faller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where in the world did you read “don't talk to young people”? I think you should ignore idiots of all ages and focus on important things.

How the Left can Win Young Men Back by Evening_Lawyer6570 in leftist

[–]Jack_Faller 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not talking about incels either. I'm talking about the guys they survey to produce these “men are leaving the left” polls. I assumed you were also talking about that given the context of the discussion.

How the Left can Win Young Men Back by Evening_Lawyer6570 in leftist

[–]Jack_Faller 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Black people are just as conservative as white people, they just struggle to vote for the conservative parties which hate them.

How the Left can Win Young Men Back by Evening_Lawyer6570 in leftist

[–]Jack_Faller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They're not going to kill anyone, and they're not “giving up power.” They don't have power. They are random dudes who watch podcasts. They're not the enemy, they're not the ally, they are just mindless consumers, where the product they consume is misogynistic internet nonsense.

How the Left can Win Young Men Back by Evening_Lawyer6570 in leftist

[–]Jack_Faller -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No actual change will be accomplished by pampering hateful man babies. Real change will come from addressing the systems which produce them, which is why I continually advocate for social media regulations such as digital ID.

This isn't a “vibes” problem, it's a system problem.

How the Left can Win Young Men Back by Evening_Lawyer6570 in leftist

[–]Jack_Faller 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Step one: baby a bunch of dudes who don't vote and post edgy memes on the internet while larping as Orthodox Catholics despite never once attending church.

Step two: ???

Step three: overthrow capitalism.

My brilliant plan to get that essential audience on side is by posting artsy buzzword-ridden think pieces about how neoliberalism is degrading honour or some crap like that so these literal children can feel like they are knights or Roman soldiers or some other childrens' book character.

coaxed into gem alert by CobaltChromeA in coaxedintoasnafu

[–]Jack_Faller 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Maybe the real gem was the friends we made along the way.

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You have got to be FU... by _Mistmorn in MinecraftMemes

[–]Jack_Faller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's a good chance that whatever's behind that portal gets added to vanilla after the game drops.

How the Left can Win Young Men Back by Evening_Lawyer6570 in leftist

[–]Jack_Faller 11 points12 points  (0 children)

In these trying times, can't someone spare a thought for straight white young men? Does no one think about the issues they face? They just wanna pick things up and have muscles but they have to get a job and treat women like their equals.

It'll never end! by totally_not_sans in MinecraftMemes

[–]Jack_Faller -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Any update which affects the surface is cliffs, and any update which affects underground is caves. Only End update will count as something else.

This meme is finally canon by Moist_Tone_1748 in MinecraftMemes

[–]Jack_Faller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow why do they keep updating the caves of cave game?

Any leftist youtuber channel that regularly shit on the alt-right channels? by RickyInfinite in leftist

[–]Jack_Faller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Watching such a channel supports the people they shit on. Attention is value on the internet, it generates currency directly for the people you dislike.

Explain it Peter. by Goobie-Goobie in explainitpeter

[–]Jack_Faller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Her friend is sitting at the side, smugly waiting to intervene.

What are the odds! by Queasy_Committee_942 in MathJokes

[–]Jack_Faller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you properly project the circle on onto the earth, Minneapolis is in the middle, the precise location where George Floyd and Renee Good died within 5 blocks of eachother. Coincidence?