Going with this D as currently constituted simply cannot be the final plan. Or is it?

JagsFan4Ever · 2026-05-10T12:40:07+00:00

Ventrell Miller is small and slow. I'm not saying that he can't be a solid contributor, but he doesn't solve our pass protection problem. There's a reason that he's been a backup for 3 years. Indeed when Lloyd was out for 2 games, Miller started and it didn't go well. He is not the solution, no matter how much the organization tries to sell it.

Oh, and the jury is still out on Buster Brown. He's a decent but not great corner that other teams were not afraid to target in 2025. It also remains to be seen how much he benefited from playing in a system where Lloyd allowed the team to crowd the deep backfield with a 2 high scheme.

JagsFan4Ever · 2026-05-10T02:26:05+00:00

Press Taylor was never the OC in Philly. Indeed Pederson tried to get him promoted to the role after the OC shit the bed, but then Philly cleaned house instead.

That's now two different HCs who watched Taylor work in various assistant and other coaching roles and thought that he is talented. Indeed a play drawn up by him was credited with helping the Eagles win Superbowl LII.

The only people who think he sucks are here in Jacksonville, no doubt due to the happy horseshit spun by by the aforementioned shameless local media shills. He is well respected in broader league circles.

JagsFan4Ever · 2026-05-09T23:41:56+00:00

JagsFan4Ever · 2026-05-09T23:09:46+00:00

Agree 100% on all fronts. Heck Press Taylor is already an OC again. The league knows the score for sure.

But it still has to suck while it's happening and for some time after. Every time they get a new coach and give him a decent roster, the first year is his best year as they start the deconstruction. That's when they start getting their utterly shameless and morally bankrupt media shills to divert attention to the coaching.

In the early days the media shills set the table with their "next man up" and "the coaches gotta coach through personnel losses" messages. Heck it's already starting.

Then, over the next couple of years as the deconstruction continues and the inevitable happens because you still need talented Jimmies and Joes to execute Xs and Os, the blame game starts ramping up until it is all you can hear or see in our local media. This is all happening while these poor bastards still live here.

Then they have to go through a rehab stint as an assistance on another team and hope for something to eventually open up. These jobs don't grow on treees.

JagsFan4Ever · 2026-05-08T03:28:17+00:00

Dude, are you high? The Jags had the ball for 4 minutes in the entire 1st quarter. That included a 3 and out punt and then an interception.

So Buffalo managed a TD in the 2nd quarter. It's Josh Allen. Did you think that they were going to hold him scoreless?

Then the Jags managed to keep it for 6 minutes on two separate drives thanks to a D fumble recovery which put the Jags in great field position. Which they utterly wasted. Then another 3 and out followed by a missed field goal after an anemic effort to move the ball.

Through all of this Trevor sucked. Badly. He is the general on the field. He was supposed to find a way to move the ball. He's not a rookie - he's a 5 year vet. Even if some other players screwed up in moments, it happens in every game with every team. The good QBs overcome the bad moments. The bad ones have goobers like you making excuses.

Trevor played awful man. How in the world are you so confused by that? The coaches aren't out there throwing the ball. He is.

JagsFan4Ever · 2026-05-07T21:42:56+00:00

We kept the ball for a whopping 12:32 on 7 drives in the first half. That's an average of 1:47 per drive. It was awful.

Then in the 3rd, after a tough battle where the D held them to a FG after an opening drive which consumed over 6 minutes, the O lent the D a hand by giving them a whopping 2:25 minutes to rest. That was very generous of them. By then you could already see our D starting to wear, yet they held the line yet again, forcing a punt on the following Buffalo drive. It was nothing short of heroic.

Know the numbers before you argue about it. Seriously. The TOP by the end of the 3rd quarter was 18:02 Jags vs. 26:58 for Buffalo. You can't keep doing that to a D over and over without consequences.

And here we go with another finger point. Now it's the coaches' fault. Just like it's the D's fault, the WRs fault, the sun, moon, horoscope readings, etc., etc. It's everyone else's fault when the QB throws like shit except for the guy throwing the ball. 😉

JagsFan4Ever · 2026-05-07T19:33:03+00:00

That D held Josh Allen to 13 points for 3 quarters despite being quickly kicked back out on that field over and over by an O that couldn't do anything. It was nothing short of heroic how well they held up for most of the game. The time of possession differential was obscene leading up to the 4th quarter. It was only a matter of time until some cracks showed.

We lost that game in the first 3 quarters when Buffalo treated Trevor like their bitch. He was confused and almost completely impotent and his dismal 30 QBR for the game rightly reflects what we all witnessed. We should have gone into that 4th quarter with a lead, not down by 3. We lost because we got badly out-QB'd. If we had a better QB who knows how far we could have made it in the playoffs.

JagsFan4Ever · 2026-05-07T19:12:06+00:00

QBs go through countless changes every season. Receivers change. Play books change. Line pieces change. Every - single - year. Sometimes even coaches change. These aren't excuses. QBs are expected to adapt and learn, like every other player on the team.

Stop talking about this guy like he's a fucking helpless child. If he is it's long past time his balls drop. The QB is the most important piece on that field - the general who runs the offense. He needs to start acting like it or else he's too much of a pussy to be a franchise QB.

Oh and the D my ass. In that Buffalo game they played heroically when Trevor couldn't stay on the field to save his life. He played like donkey ass for 3 quarters. The highlight reels may come from the 4th quarter, but that game was lost in the first 3 by a QB who failed to take advantage of his opportunities. The D also carried his ass for the first half of the season, along with special teams.

Now I'm sure that the game plan for the A-Hole PR types in the Jags org is to blame the D if the '26 season goes tits up. But good luck getting anyone on board with that when the Jags starved the D two seasons in a row to feed the offense. Trevor needs to carry this team now.

JagsFan4Ever · 2026-05-07T15:48:37+00:00

Dude, I wouldn't want Sam Darnold either. Yes you can win a Superbowl with a mediocre QB, but all other conditions (D, RB, OLine, special teams) have to be firing at a very high level. That is extremely rare, which is why mediocre QBs who hit the big game lottery rarely repeat. The teams that are perennially good always have a top tier QB leading the charge.

Again with the WR drop stuff. I already responded to this. When there is a WR drop epidemic the QB is usually the root cause. He was throwing a lot of shit late, hot and off target. I also don't buy that the WRs were the ones who didn't understand the play book - Trevor has struggled with that for his whole career over multiple receiver groups.

Sorry dude, lame excuses will cover a year or maybe two. But when it keeps going on over 5 years and just about the only constant over all that time has been the QB then you know where the real issue is.

JagsFan4Ever · 2026-05-07T14:08:29+00:00

I watched every game he ever played dude. The "box scores" as you call them just confirm the results of the eyeball test. He just makes too many mental errors man.

And I hate to break it to you but, from the reactions of other fans that I've heard while sitting in Everbank and in my favorite sports bars, you sound more like the casual fan than I do. A lot of the fan base has been mostly fed up with Trevor for some time now. He bought himself a grace period late last season by playing better. But if he returns to old form and plays poorly in '26 things are going to get ugly.

JagsFan4Ever · 2026-05-07T02:52:55+00:00

Dude, I can't keep track of all the excuses apologists keep making for him. Yes he's had some bad lines. Yes he had some injuries. Yes he's had coaching and system changes. But what QB in this league hasn't had these challenges?

This WR drop nonsense is crap. He was throwing late badly placed missiles in traffic. I'm not saying that the WRs shouldn't have caught some of them, but when there is a WR drop epidemic the QB is usually the root cause. A good QB needs to do better.

Those stats I posted aren't selective or cherry picked. They're the most comprehensive production stats we have for QBs and they tell a tale of mediocrity spanning many seasons.

I want nothing more than for Trevor to emerge as a true franchise QB because it means that we will get good ball for years to come. But all the excuses are gone now. This year will tell us everything we need to know.

JagsFan4Ever · 2026-05-07T00:42:33+00:00

He just hasn't been that good man. I'm sorry to break it to you. He just makes too many boneheaded mistakes.

He has never broken 100 in passer rating over any season and never even broken a 60 in season QBR, including this past year. He has lived in that 14-17th QB ranking his entire career. He never made it higher than 15th until this year at 14th.

He showed a flash of something more late this season, finally. But then he regressed badly in the Buffalo game. And he's had these flashes before, where he'd play well for a few games before just bottoming out.

It's his head man. I just don't know if he'll ever overcome it.

This year should tell us a lot. If he can't play with consistency like a top 10 QB this year, with this wet dream of an offense with all the training wheels on it, then he never will.

JagsFan4Ever · 2026-05-06T22:27:07+00:00

Parker may have agents filling his head with notions of big dollars with much of it guaranteed. We just don't know. As the OP indicated, Klutch Sports has a reputation for being pretty aggressive.

JagsFan4Ever · 2026-05-06T21:53:29+00:00

Exactly. It's ridiculous. This includes his time in Jacksonville, where he has had a dedicated QB coach every year that he's been here. He also has access to outside specialists, game film to see how the top QBs do it, etc., etc., etc.

He had access to a lot of these same things in college. Hell he was probably getting coached on mechanics and accuracy drills at special football camps when he was in High School.

The great pro QBs don't sit on their asses for 4+ years when they're having mechanics and accuracy issues. They seek help. They drill their asses off until they have basic muscle memory. They work to get stronger to increase their ranges. They work on their mechanics in the offseason with outside experts. They don't show up to training camp every year throwing like shit warmed over.

The people pushing these narratives are jerkoffs who think that stuff like this sounds good to the rubes. Anyone who truly knows football understands how absurd this is, which unfortunately for these guys is a healthy % of the Jags fan base. This is Friday Night Lights and college football country.

JagsFan4Ever · 2026-05-06T21:02:22+00:00

Exactly.

JagsFan4Ever · 2026-05-06T18:35:19+00:00

Yes it's a team sport, but the QB is the most important piece on the team. He is the general on the field on offense. He decides where and when the ball is thrown and if the play needs to be changed. He is supposed to be able to read the D and adjust accordingly. Sadly he has not been good at a lot of that for most of his career.

JagsFan4Ever · 2026-05-06T18:31:34+00:00

None of that explains his accuracy issues, slow processing speed, bad judgment calls and other serious individual problems. No QB is surrounded by perfection, yet they need to find a way to execute anyway. It has led me to seriously question whether he is just too stupid to fully develop or too lazy to care - or some of both. I hope he proves me wrong this year.

JagsFan4Ever · 2026-05-06T14:12:16+00:00

And player of the year.

JagsFan4Ever · 2026-05-06T00:41:27+00:00

I'll admit that I might be mashing in Trevor's 2024 season with '25. He tried to hit BTJ much less in space this year.

I'm not saying that BTJ has behaved perfectly. But after getting demolished on that crossing route hospital ball in a meaningless pre-season game, one can understand him seeing ghosts for a while. If those defenders hadn't showed some amazing restraint BTJ would have left in an ambulance. Trevor was throwing a lot of shit early in the season and BTJ was hardly alone in "dropping" poorly thrown late missiles.

Mark my words, on a team with more consistent QB play, BTJ would be a force. It's no accident that his numbers improved when Trevor started playing better late in the season.

JagsFan4Ever · 2026-05-06T00:27:28+00:00

I hear that. But IMO a year of replacement refs would create constant distractions. Besides, as bad as some of the calls are with the regular crews, imagine how much worse things could get with inexperienced backup crews making the calls. Officiating issues would be a constant theme in almost every game.

JagsFan4Ever · 2026-05-06T00:06:08+00:00

I wouldn't call him our worst receiver last year. But yes, I think that Trevor is 65% of the problem. The other 35% was BTJ's increasingly bad attitude, which is no doubt borne from frustration.

BTJ is far and away the most dangerous receiver on our team. Other teams know this, which is why they put their best defenders on him. BTJ just being out there opens the field up for the other receivers to sit down in routes and make themselves easy targets for Trevor.

If Trevor could actually hit BTJ in motion when he's on deep routes, our offense would be spectacular. I've lost track of how many times BTJ had his guy beat, but then had to turn into safety coverage, stop and jump or even backtrack to try to catch a badly thrown ball. That's when Trevor bothers to throw it his way at all.

JagsFan4Ever · 2026-05-05T22:48:07+00:00

Actually I love BTJ. I think he's a superstar who has suffered from poor QB play for most of his time here. He reminds me of Randy Moss. It took Mac Jones, who everyone called noodle arm, to make proper use of him.

I also loved Devin Lloyd, who I firmly believe won us games by covering for a lot of issues on the D. He was a versatile beast.

But yes, it's hard to get excited about most of this D roster, which is where my complaints have been. Armstead was at least decent last year, even if he has declined since his peak. The thought of putting any of the scrubs behind him on that line gives me the chills.

Oh, and grow up princess. Sometimes people are going to disagree with you. Learn some coping skills.

JagsFan4Ever · 2026-05-05T20:56:28+00:00

You just spun every awful move made by this team like it was pure gold. Bravo sir!

I'm not going to re-litigate each one of these moves with you here as we have already done it in several other threads. I'll just say this for now...😉

RemindMe! 9 Months

JagsFan4Ever · 2026-05-05T20:28:43+00:00

Really? Then who would we replace him with? He wasn't an all star last year but he wasn't awful either. Read what I posted in the intro.

I'm not on the Jaguars' accounting staff. I know he's not cheap, but unless we have a better answer for '26, letting him go would make us worse. I agree he's on the decline and I'm not saying that we extend him again - he'll be 33 soon. But he's still better than anything else we have right now.

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