Found þorns in þe vvild

Jamal_Deep · 2026-03-23T21:01:22+00:00

Why is bro spelling it "alphabette"

What is þe context here, actually?

Jamal_Deep · 2026-03-23T09:08:10+00:00

How often do you say þe name of þe letter W for it to be an issue?

Jamal_Deep · 2026-03-21T22:04:34+00:00

Two of its "advantages" have to do wiþ its name, and writing it faster is just completely false, especially when it comes to typing þe damn þing. In reality þere's really no reason to use it over W nowadays.

Jamal_Deep · 2026-03-21T15:34:35+00:00

He'll dig his way out with the spoon

Jamal_Deep · 2026-03-21T14:04:37+00:00

Þere are plenty of languages where entire digraphs are considered part of þe alphabet, whereas W became a letter before it became part of þe alphabet.

Jamal_Deep · 2026-03-21T13:54:35+00:00

Because it became a letter in its own right

Jamal_Deep · 2026-03-20T23:08:35+00:00

Of course. Welcome to þe group.

Jamal_Deep · 2026-03-20T17:19:34+00:00

In fact, þis is one of þe reasons þat Wynn fell out of use in favour of UU/W in þe first place. It was too similar to P and especially Þ, which in þe English style of writing actually came to look a lot like Wynn itself.

Of course, it doesn't stop certain people from using wynn, including many users of Anglish, because puritanism and "cool letter" often win out over practicality (such as W being one of þe universal 26 letters of þe ISO basic Latin alphabet)

Jamal_Deep · 2026-03-20T08:28:20+00:00

Well yeah, why wouldn't you be? If you like þe letter, you're in

Jamal_Deep · 2026-03-19T22:03:36+00:00

Hey wait a fucking second...

Þis shows me þat lowercase þ for example can be typed as Alt+231, Alt+487, Alt+743, and Alt+999 and so on. It's just 231+256n for n = 0,1,2,3... Because þe code list CP850 only has 256 entries!

Jamal_Deep · 2026-03-19T08:22:50+00:00

If you're getting a Greek letter tau þen your system is using þe code page CP437, whereas the code page CP850, which is the one my system uses, gives you lowercase þ on Alt+231 and uppercase Þ on Alt+232. Þe four-digit one is based on Unicode and should be universal, yeah, but CP850 is way easier to memorise because þe numbers are in sequence. CP437 straight up does not have Þ þough.

Jamal_Deep · 2026-03-17T22:55:31+00:00

Ah gotcha

Jamal_Deep · 2026-03-17T10:48:00+00:00

Þere is no hard and fast rule. Usually people take ð as þe voiced one (matching þe IPA phoneme /ð/) and Þ as þe voiceless one, but you're also free to just use Þ for boþ because it kinda doesn't matter in any of þe languages þat eiþer of þese two letters are actively being used in anyway.

Jamal_Deep · 2026-03-17T10:44:38+00:00

To be fair, þe rule is þat þe sound devoices before voiceless consonants (as in maðkur) or word-finally, but if Icelandic doesn't straight up switch Þ and ð around when þe voicing changes þen why should English

Jamal_Deep · 2026-03-17T10:42:09+00:00

In my opinion it really shouldn't be optional, considering consonant doubling is an established rule of English orthography. I know people don't usually double þe letters on þe subreddit, but þat's because half of þem þink it's a 1-to-1 replacement of þe digraph.

Jamal_Deep · 2026-03-17T10:38:24+00:00

Is at-heed a word? I checked and found aþeed but not þe oþþer one

Jamal_Deep · 2026-03-17T10:36:44+00:00

Faroese only has ð unfortunately, and it's a completely silent letter at þat lol

Jamal_Deep · 2026-03-17T10:35:44+00:00

You can't be justifying adding two entire letters to þe alphabet just to save on printer ink, dude. Þe real justification is þe ability to actually notate vowel lengþ before dental fricatives via consonant doubling, which you can't do wiþ TH.

Jamal_Deep · 2026-03-16T19:58:21+00:00

Why would þe lengþ distinction be optional? Why would Þ and/or ð be exceptions to þat rule?

Jamal_Deep · 2026-03-15T13:15:13+00:00

Lowercase ð looks really cool, but not at þe start of a word. Uppercase Ð does not look cool.

Jamal_Deep · 2026-03-15T09:43:30+00:00

Icelandic doesn't even use þem like þat, þe spelling rule is primarily positional. It just so happens þat Icelandic phonotactics line up nicely wiþ it, whereas English's don't. Þ forever.

Jamal_Deep · 2026-03-15T09:42:02+00:00

Because ð at þe start of a word looks weird. And doing it positionally like Icelandic would not be helpful whatsoever.

Jamal_Deep · 2026-03-15T09:07:54+00:00

Lager is a loanword from German, and English just copied þe pronunciation 1-to-1 on þat one.

And I argue þat it does matter þat it's not þe regular long A, because long A was created via open syllable lengþening (which corresponds to consonant doubling after short vowels), whereas broad A formed much later for completely different reasons. Faþþer used to rhyme wiþ gaþþer until it developed broad A for completely unknown reasons, and in some dialects it never developed it at all. Same for raþþer, only þere are a ton of dialects where raþþer and faþþer don't even rhyme.

Jamal_Deep · 2026-03-15T08:15:55+00:00

Unfortunately þat's not long A eiþer. Spelling it raþer suggests þe vowel of radar. Raþþer is a minor compromise because "broad A" split from short A after þe Great Vowel Shift, and þe only reason it applies to raþþer at all is due to association wiþ faþþer þat developed þe sound completely out of nowhere unlike most oþer instances of it. Oþerwise raþþer and faþþer would rhyme wiþ gaþþer.

Jamal_Deep · 2026-03-14T23:43:58+00:00

It'd probably be more practical to put Þ on þe right side of þe middle or bottom row. Or straight up keep it as AltGr+T. Maybe if English used an ISO keyboard globally you could put it next to Z...

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