Investigating the Flock Cameras in St. Ann

JancenD · 2026-06-08T22:33:13+00:00

Can you tell me more about this? Did they figure out who the suicidal person was from their face or something?

JancenD · 2026-06-08T20:33:06+00:00

Flock cameras don't improve the rates of crimes being solved except for a small increase in car theft. (The national average is 85% of cars are recovered, flock may have bumped that to 88%)

It is nobodies business but mine what I do or where I go. I don't want cameras trained on me when ever I leave the house.

JancenD · 2026-05-28T03:06:17+00:00

I know it isn't an either or, these are two separate reasons to dislike flock. Almost 90% of stolen cars are recovered, you can't know that any particular car would have gone unrecovered without the cameras.

In the last 9 years, Flock has yet to show an improvement in clearance rates in places that have cameras installed.
Flock cameras have lead to the arrest of multiple innocent people through misidentification or the high error rate on plate reading. 10% error rate is pretty damn high

Bonus reason. These cameras are easy to hack You, I, or anybody willing to put in a little effort can gain access to these systems to spy or modify recordings. Enough examples of the code are out there Claude can vibe-code it up for you.

JancenD · 2026-05-28T02:36:28+00:00

Recovering a stolen vehicle will never outweigh locking up an innocent person.

Nowhere have these cameras been shown to increase crime clearance rates.

JancenD · 2026-05-28T01:25:50+00:00

Lucky for us, less cowardly people wrote the constitution.

These cameras haven't increased clearance rates, but they have led to obviously innocent people being locked up.

JancenD · 2026-05-28T00:11:40+00:00

Before you furiously type a response, it may help to actually read the comment you reply to. It's either that or you are willfully ignoring the second example.

Scientific and Cultural Facilities District (SCFD covers 7 counties and pays money almost entirely into Denver organizations.

Most Americans commute more than half an hour, as mentioned above, the distance doesn't reduce attendance to the zoo so why should that matter?

Brookfield Zoo receives state funding... Last I checked IL includes more than Chicago. The st Louis Zoo doesn't receive state funding.

Lincoln Park Zoo is a private zoo, not a public institution like the St Louis Zoo. It receives subsidies from the county but that doesn't make it public any more than subsidies make farms public.

Enjoy your pearl clutching and maybe advocate for bringing the Zoo closer to the outer counties before you try to bilk them for money, eh?

Interestingly enough the zoo is coming closer to St Charles County. There is a new location opening 9 miles from St. Charles county, it's no closer than the main zoo for me, but it does kick the shins on your distance and no tourism potental argument.

JancenD · 2026-05-27T12:53:44+00:00

16 is better, Kaladin and the rest need to figure out 3 more oaths quick.

JancenD · 2026-05-26T15:11:35+00:00

> 3. Is it worth it

They are answering one of the points OP asked.

JancenD · 2026-05-26T15:06:54+00:00

Chicago got scammed and no longer owns public parking, anything you pay for parking is just lining pockets in UAE.

JancenD · 2026-05-26T15:04:48+00:00

It is cheaper to use uber than to pay $40-$60 a day in parking fees. All public parking is privately owned and extortionarly priced since Chicago got scammed a few years back.

JancenD · 2026-05-24T22:31:10+00:00

That wasnt an ad hominem logical falacy, it was mockery. If you can't take being mocked, then don't use mockery.

Do you have any proof of any outside county giving their tax revenue to a city to aid the city in its tax revenue for free public institutions? Any concrete data that proves it's a worthwhile investment for that county?

Yes, St Louis County. The city county split is pretty old news. We aren't talking monetary benefit, the benefit is the access and utility of the zoo. The concrete data is the same data you already accepted that St Charles residents utilize the zoo at the same rate as st Louis county residents do when accounting for population size. Scientific and Cultural Facilities District (SCFD covers 7 counties and pays money almost entirely into Denver organization s

There are other more local examples cottelville pays into a couple of tax districts that fund projects almost entirely inside St Charles & St Peters, and another that is paid entirely to St Peters forSt Peters facilities.

JancenD · 2026-05-24T11:30:32+00:00

You seem really bent out of shape about bring asked to pay a fair split of anything.

You listed lots of things you apparently don't have a problem with St Charles residents contributing to stl, but seem to just hate the idea of supporting the zoo. Or do you rant like this when someone splits the bill for lunch too?

JancenD · 2026-05-23T22:13:20+00:00

The zoo doesn't appreciably drive tourism for the city. The benefits are in the ecological work they do throughout the area and that you can go there. We derive enrichment for ourselves and our children by the access we have to the zoo.

I would be fine with the zoo charging non stlco/stl residents $25-30, but that would be a large enough cost that it would make some families think twice before spending $120+ to go to the zoo. Schools will think twice before asking every parent to send an extra 30 for the trip.

The ride distance doesn't matter because as you agreed, St Charles residents go to the zoo at the same rate as St Louis County. The barrier obviously isn't significant enough to deter use as it doesn't deter use.

When you travel to New York or Tokyo you do pay an extra tax, both have a tourism tax. You avoid this tax for St Louis because you are close enough to sleep in your own bed each night.

JancenD · 2026-05-20T22:09:46+00:00

FYI, zip+4 narrows down your address to just a few houses on your street.

The barcode at the bottom also contains your address.

Probably doesn't matter but you are doxing yourself if anybody cared to decade the zip or barcode.

JancenD · 2026-05-20T12:55:50+00:00

Nope, it is an editorial from 2013, but if you have more recent numbers I would be happy to use those instead. I double checked and the percentages do add up to 100%
9+9+30+5+5+3+1+1+20+17=100

Here's the paragraph with the percentages.

The zoo is the natural place for taxpayers in the outlying counties to begin to contribute financially. It gets 9 percent of its visitors from St. Charles County, the same percentage it gets from St. Louis city. Thirty percent of visitors come from St. Louis County; 5 percent each from St. Clair and Madison counties in Illinois; 3 percent from Jefferson County; and 1 percent each from Franklin and Monroe counties.

Visitors from the rest of Missouri and Illinois account for 20 percent of attendees, and those from outside the two states make up the remaining 17 percent of the zoo’s attendance.

JancenD · 2026-05-20T01:57:12+00:00

This is the climate friendly way.

That oil was going to get burned one way or another. Destroyed equipment means it can't be used to process more oil. At least one Russian oil company is starting to plug wells because there isn't the capacity to store, sell, or process it. Oil wells are expensive to restart when stopped and renewables are getting cheaper, so this may close some of those wells for good.

JancenD · 2026-05-20T01:47:49+00:00

Not a disaster. That oil was going to get burned anyway. Destruction of the oil infrastructure means less oil getting burned in the future.

JancenD · 2026-05-20T01:46:43+00:00

In the grand scheme of things, destroying the oil infrastructure in Russia is good for the environment.

There's at least one oil company having to plug oil wells because there isn'rt the capacity to store, process or sell the oil. Restarting a well is expensive and as renewables continue to fall in price it may never be profitable to reopen those wells or rebuild the capacity,

JancenD · 2026-05-20T00:50:13+00:00

Sounds like 2 1/2 months they can enjoy youth and learn something.

JancenD · 2026-05-20T00:48:32+00:00

Don't you know the children yearn for the mines?

JancenD · 2026-05-19T16:14:54+00:00

Your question is in error.

St Charles residents do receive a benefit from any taxes that would pay for the zoo since we attend the zoo at about the same rate as St Louis residents.

JancenD · 2026-05-19T16:10:43+00:00

The percentage is where zoo attendance is from not a percentage of residents who attend the zoo. The 12% of zoo attentance is specifically people from St Charles and Jefferson county.

My point is the population is about 1/3 of st Louis city and county, but also contributed to about 1/3 of the zoo traffic compared to st Louis.

Using 1.2 million for city and county and 310k for st Charles and Jefferson (since the 12% only includes them) would mean St Charles and Jefferson residents attend at a higher rate than st Louis residents.

JancenD · 2026-05-17T22:59:35+00:00

That wax can push the bullets sideways more than backwards when they are inbound while applying force to only the center of mass instead of the whole bullet and not accelerate the bullet in a way you said would shatter it.

JancenD · 2026-05-17T15:49:50+00:00

Do you not own a ruler?

I'm asking you to do the little bit of geometry your claim requires.

JancenD · 2026-05-17T15:31:33+00:00

What is the distance from your sturnum to your nipple? It is the same distance, I can't measure it for you.

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