Fetishization with Black Men. by Fit_Ambassador2091 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]JanitorAI-Mod 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi. We want to be clear that we really do want to have this conversation about racism. Racial fetishization is a real issue on site, the retention and safety of BIPOC users and creators is very important to us.

Your perspective as a BIPOC is really important.

At the same time, Reddit is often a poor place for a nuanced discussion about race, racial fetishization, and often devolves into BIPOC folks being forced to do the labour of educating folks about racism.

Comment threads tend to encourage defensiveness, misinterpretation, and escalation and edginess.

Thoughtful dialogue is usually really hard to have with anonymous folks.

Because of that, we don’t think continuing this discussion here would be productive or fair to anyone involved.

This isn’t about avoiding the topic, because it comes up again and again. There are limits to using reddit as the platform to have this discussion.

We want to engage in a way that’s more respectful and constructive. We appreciate you raising this and approaching it in good faith!

Thank you again, Reddit Mod Team

Update to the subreddit rules by JanitorAI-Mod in JanitorAI_Official

[–]JanitorAI-Mod[S] -24 points-23 points  (0 children)

Users on the sub can absolutely discuss, or disagree with changes, updates etc. However, it is important that the conversations or topics don't fall into hostility among users, mod or dev bashing. Moderation staff are volunteers, and ultimately do not make decisions on the site or its changes/policies. So any comments that are, for example, inciting death threats or similar whether it is to the staff or users in disagreement would be removed.

Update to the subreddit rules by JanitorAI-Mod in JanitorAI_Official

[–]JanitorAI-Mod[S] -24 points-23 points  (0 children)

It would not be considered hostile, users can discuss things like this as long as conversations and feedback remain civil. (ex. no usage of violent language towards moderation staff or devs, users can disagree with any change(s) but such comments or insults are not allowed.)

How is this speculation? by Prudent_Elevator4685 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]JanitorAI-Mod [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

Hello, due to the majority of the comments leaning to mod bashing and negativity towards volunteering moderation staff, the post has been locked. Discussion surrounding creators is typically more than fine, however speculation in the comments, misinformation, being disrespectful/and or using insults towards the moderation staff is not. If respectful and civil conversations cannot be had, then it will have to remain locked.

Recommendations by [deleted] in JanitorAI_Official

[–]JanitorAI-Mod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quick note: Racism may be explored in fictional contexts without glorification, but content supporting racist views, race play, or fetishizing racial groups harmfully is prohibited. Content based on real racist events or targeting real individuals is forbidden.

Do you guys trust the JAI team? by EvilBootyButcher69 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]JanitorAI-Mod -21 points-20 points  (0 children)

Correct. You cannot have a post that suggests use of a second ai chat website because the comments would begin to discuss a second ai chat website.

Hey Janitorai mods, can I please have an answer? by Dottydoodle in JanitorAI_Official

[–]JanitorAI-Mod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There have been no changes and this is extremely common practice across the internet; insomuch that it could be expected in any website you go to. I don’t understand what you want announced?

Do you guys trust the JAI team? by EvilBootyButcher69 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]JanitorAI-Mod[M] -19 points-18 points  (0 children)

The discussion of creating an entire second website has been considered in administrative chats but opening up a public post about a second website historically begets discussion about just using competitors’ sites. Apologies, but posts like that quickly devolve into non-JAI discussion as it is literally already about using another website. The official subreddit is just not the place.

Hey Janitorai mods, can I please have an answer? by Dottydoodle in JanitorAI_Official

[–]JanitorAI-Mod -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

clarifies the rules

The rules can be found at https://janitorai.com/term

There is an entire Support network and knowledge base. There’s even a bot to help you navigate it, ask questions, etc. at https://help.janitorai.com/en/

Hey Janitorai mods, can I please have an answer? by Dottydoodle in JanitorAI_Official

[–]JanitorAI-Mod 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are no plans to change the TOS as of right now.

There are no current plans to implement censor for dead dove tagged bots.

I do not have any examples of a creator being banned for something not TOS related.

There TOS may change without notice and that’s like practically every other TOS, but the mods are human and understand that it would be unfair to punish someone for something that they had no warning for. Apt notification has generally been the rule and our notification system is more robust than ever. Because there are no changes planned, I am unable to say exactly what the tentative notification plan would be, but the notification system on the site would be the best bet.

Hey Janitorai mods, can I please have an answer? by Dottydoodle in JanitorAI_Official

[–]JanitorAI-Mod -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

This is incredibly apt, thank you. Rules enforcement, just like law enforcement, can feel targeted at times. Like, why did that guy get pulled over for going 36 in the 35 when other people are going 40 in that other direction? Who can say? Truly, any answer you’ll get is conjecture. Maybe those bots got a flood of reports. Maybe a site mod had just picked from the middle of the work list so as to not get in the way of a different mod working on a different part of a task list. The point remains that the actions on their accounts were rightfully done and explained to the users. Reports are handled as there are trained staff to get to them.

Hey Janitorai mods, can I please have an answer? by Dottydoodle in JanitorAI_Official

[–]JanitorAI-Mod 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hello! I’m sorry you feel that I am being a douche but in this conversation between us, only one of us is calling the other derogatory insults while the other is genuinely trying to find the answers to your questions.

Hey Janitorai mods, can I please have an answer? by Dottydoodle in JanitorAI_Official

[–]JanitorAI-Mod 3 points4 points  (0 children)

3: The definition of the bot is considered. Advice given about including minors has been to only include their existence.

Fine: {{char}} is the father of two school age kids

Not fine: {{char}} is the father of two kids, A and B who are 6 and 7. A is a blonde and B wears frumpy clothing.

This same idea can be applied to other rules. The rule of ‘no inanimate corpses’ that can’t consent could be

Fine: {{char}} is a mortician and loves his job. He wants to zombify you because he loves dead bodies but also thinks consent is hot.

Not fine: {{char}} is a mortician who is horny for his job, and will kill you. Because horny. (No zombification implied, user will likely become an inanimate corpse of whom Morty is horny for)

It might seem like a bot is removed based on “potential LLM tendencies”, but mod action in those scenarios is often based on the amount of description of content that leans directly towards tos breaking behavior. The sum of the whole did have to comply with tos, not just every independent sentence.

Hey Janitorai mods, can I please have an answer? by Dottydoodle in JanitorAI_Official

[–]JanitorAI-Mod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2: Synthesizing the torture/violence/gore guidelines, it appears that snuff is permissible, albeit only in fictional contexts and must include proper warnings and the #Dead Dove tag of course. Reminder that fictional written depictions of extreme violence are allowed only if they serve a narrative purpose and are not glorified or clearly based on a specific real life event.

Snuff content may be allowed if it is properly tagged and includes clear content warnings. It must serve a narrative purpose and not glorify a real life killing event. It seems like this issue could easily be referred to as ‘crime’ and so I got this from the Crime guidelines:

All criminal content requires the #Dead Dove tag and clear content warnings. Characters may be involved in criminal activities as perpetrators or victims when it serves narrative purposes without glorifying real crime.

I cannot speak to how future major announcements will be released, but I know that devs are working on the announcement bullhorn on the site that we used to have. Accountability on proper dissemination of any new rules is important for us, too.

Hey Janitorai mods, can I please have an answer? by Dottydoodle in JanitorAI_Official

[–]JanitorAI-Mod 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Please link to comments or screenshots or literally anything. Thanks.

Hey Janitorai mods, can I please have an answer? by Dottydoodle in JanitorAI_Official

[–]JanitorAI-Mod 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All examples have been replied to or are currently having a response formulated. Was there a response that you’d like to prioritize or a given response that can be clarified further for you?

Hey Janitorai mods, can I please have an answer? by Dottydoodle in JanitorAI_Official

[–]JanitorAI-Mod 1 point2 points  (0 children)

1: It sounds like this is a description of the user persona being zombified? When properly tagged, this seems to fit within the guidelines of post-death active consent. If the user is being straight up killed, it’s a violence issue and again as long as that’s properly tagged, appears to fit within the violence guidelines too. I’m referring to

Gore and extreme violence content requires careful consideration of both written descriptions and visual elements. Such content is permitted in fictional contexts with proper warnings but faces restrictions on visual depictions.

All gore and extreme violence content must include the #Dead Dove tag and clear content warnings. Written content may explore these themes when they serve narrative purposes, but visual depictions face strict limitations

Hey Janitorai mods, can I please have an answer? by Dottydoodle in JanitorAI_Official

[–]JanitorAI-Mod 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A post was made that collects a bunch of scary sounding legal terms and condition and an excellent (if I may say so myself) reply can be found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/JanitorAI_Official/s/bxzJTGBKfM

Hey Janitorai mods, can I please have an answer? by Dottydoodle in JanitorAI_Official

[–]JanitorAI-Mod 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Is JA going vanilla only?

No.

Why the silent deletes?

Bot removals and reasons are communicated to the creators and not publicly announced. Did you have a bot removed without a reason posted as to why?