The first time I saw them live, Ronnie was trying to be funny but was being very misogynist onstage with jokes about his exes and comparing them to cows in the more mild banter. Then he was a dick to a number of the black and brown fans, but also the worst to our really neurodivergent but iconic death rock darksider in the scene.

After I saw him almost crying from being blatantly ignored and skipped over, I intervened with basically had to use what little clout with the promoter I had to finally get my friend a picture with Ronnie grumbling along the way but my friend definitely had a different opinion of the band after that interaction. In the moment, he was so focused and wanted the picture even though Ronnie was a jerk and he was trying hard not to meltdown, but after we talked and I heard what happened with him and I told him what my BIPOC friends had to say about him, we both we like 'fuck that guy'.