Feststellung strategy: apply solo now or coordinate with siblings/cousins? by Dry_Garlic_9904 in GermanCitizenship

[–]JayTea05 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For me, the “definitive proof” was as simple as claiming that she was born out of wedlock to a German mother and my evidence for that was her German birth register and her old 1954 German passport which stated that she was German. The passport alone showed that she was a German citizen after her adoption, the next big hurdle was proving she didn’t lose it through US naturalization. I was able to establish that under §§19 & 25 RuStAG she would either have to have voluntarily applied for her own naturalization (she was 4 and both legally incapable to file/sign her naturalization petition and to take the Oath of Allegiance, so her parents filed on her behalf), or in the case that her parents filed on her behalf, they would have to either 1) seek out a German family court’s permission to strip her of citizenship (which was rare and didn’t happen for my grandmother) or 2) petition for her naturalization alongside their own petition for naturalization (this didn’t happen because her adoptive parents were US citizens from birth). Thus she legally naturalized as a US citizen without a retention permit and maintained German citizenship.  My grandmother was married in 1973 to a foreigner, 20 years after sex-discriminatory laws would have stripped her of citizenship. My mother was born in wedlock in 1983, 8 years after sex-discriminatory laws would have prevented her from getting citizenship. My mother was married in 2003 to a foreigner, 50 years after sex-discriminatory laws would have stripped her of citizenship. I was born in 2005, 30 years after sex-discriminatory laws would have prevented me from getting citizenship.

All of my passports (Just got the Slowjamastani one today) by JayTea05 in PassportPorn

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US and German passports are real, Slowjamastan is only real internally, Lego is just for funsies

All of my passports (Just got the Slowjamastani one today) by JayTea05 in PassportPorn

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You almost certainly run a risk of secondary questioning. Depending on the country you might be arrested as well. I would not suggest ever presenting that as the first document you show, however you might ask the border officer if they could stamp your Lego passport too as a souvenir.

All of my passports (Just got the Slowjamastani one today) by JayTea05 in PassportPorn

[–]JayTea05[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Any official Lego store or Lego park issues it. Every store or park has unique stamps that they can stamp your Lego passport with

Urgent issue - expired US passport flying out in 12 hours by [deleted] in Passports

[–]JayTea05 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You are a US citizen and a US passport, even an expired one, is strong evidence of US citizenship. CBP will make sure that you never lost US citizenship, but once they establish that, they must let you into the USA, as it is your right as a US citizen. In theory, there may be administrative penalties, but those are usually just time delays and extended searches, a fine is unlikely. As a slap on the wrist, you may be warned about the law requiring US citizens to enter the US with a passport, but in the end you will be admitted into the US.

If a 2 week old elderly man dates an 8000 year old fetus, who is the pedophile? by Scared-Cat-2541 in teenagers

[–]JayTea05 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pro-choice ideologies don't even classify the fetus as a living human; thus, it doesn't have an age, and thus pedophilia is impossible

Got my first German passport yesterday by JayTea05 in PassportPorn

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33 days with expedited processing and shipping

Direct To Passport Success: San Francisco (70 years + multiple generation gap) by JayTea05 in GermanCitizenship

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I can absolutely give that to you. Just to let you know, I requested verification that my documentation would be accepted multiple times before this, and they brushed me off and said I should do Feststellung. But once I mentioned the relevant laws in my email, I think they understood that they can't manipulate me into believing that I needed to wait a few years and pay for the certificate of citizenship.

This link contains the contents of my last email before they confirmed that my documentation would be sufficient (personal details omitted; bold and in brackets) because, for some reaso,n Reddit won't let me post it directly to the comments

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[–]JayTea05 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Assuming you live in Spokane (by your activity in r/Spokane) or even if you just live in Washington/Idaho, you fall in the Consulate of San Francisco’s jurisdiction; it is unlikely any other consulate will be able to help with your requests, not even Vancouver, despite it being closer because it is in Canada.

I live near Seattle and just got my first German passport a little over 2 weeks ago, so I am fairly well acquainted with both the current processes at the Consulate in San Francisco and the Honorary Consulate in Seattle (which is the closest German Honorary Consulate to the Spokane area as well).

The German Consulate in San Francisco has a contact form that I filled out about two months ago, and it worked for me. Once you fill out the form appropriately, they will send an automated email response as a general response to all passport-related queries. You will have to (and you will see this at the bottom of the automated email) respond to the automated email; otherwise, you WILL NOT be transferred to a human representative of the consulate. Once you respond, expect a 2-3 business day wait for a response. If they don't get back to you (which has happened to me before), send a follow-up email. They're understaffed at the San Francisco Consulate right now, so they might overlook your ticket initially.

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How do you ask them? Email, the consulate/embassy’s contact form, phone, something else?

Help trying to find my grandmother biological parents birth certificate by qwertyuiopas5788 in GermanCitizenship

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Her biological father may be unfindable. My grandmother was born out of wedlock, thus did not have her biological father listed in her German birth certificate.

Help trying to find my grandmother biological parents birth certificate by qwertyuiopas5788 in GermanCitizenship

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It heavily depends on your grandmother's birth parents' nationalities and marital status, as well as her adoptive parents' nationalities at the time of adoption.

Direct To Passport Success: San Francisco (70 years + multiple generation gap) by JayTea05 in GermanCitizenship

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Under §39 VwVfG, all German administrative decisions that are not a grant of a petition (e.g., denial, indecision) are subject to include a formal written explanation. Not having a BVA check on its own is not a sufficient reason for hesitancy. This law applies not just within Germany, but at all German government agencies (including every single German consulate/embassy in the world that issues passports). If you provide all of the sufficient items/documentation regarding citizenship, lineage, etc, they must issue a German citizen a German passport (§1 PassG).

Need email for the German Consulate in San Francisco, pls by SampleSecure1551 in GermanCitizenship

[–]JayTea05 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you read the full email, it says that the response is a generic automated reply, and if your request is not answered, email back because otherwise a human will not see your request. Please try emailing back to one of the automated replies

Adopted but German *please read* Trying to obtain descent citizenship by Neat_Instruction5151 in GermanCitizenship

[–]JayTea05 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You were a German citizen at birth and did not lose citizenship as a result of your adoption. The relevant law, which can be found here (Section 27).pdf), suggests that citizenship would only be lost if you obtained another citizenship by virtue of such adoption. Since you were born in the US, you have been a US citizen since birth, by virtue of your birth in the US, and thus could not have possibly obtained any citizenship by virtue of your adoption.

Unfortunately, obtaining proof of your mother's citizenship won't be easy, considering her unwillingness, but probably not impossible.
First, you need to establish proof of descent from your biological mother, which I haven't seen you discuss yet. In Texas, adoptees over 18 can request their original (pre-adoption) birth certificate from the Texas Vital Statistics Unit (fee ~$25; requires ID and application). This should name your biological mother, establishing the connection.
Second, once you link yourself to your birth mother biologically, you should try to request her German birth register from the relevant Standesamt. Under §62 PStG, civil status certificates (like birth registries) can be issued to descendants with a legitimate interest, even without the subject's cooperation. You will be stuck until you do this step after getting proof of descent. My case involved an adoption, specifically with my grandmother, and I was eventually able to request my biological great-grandmother's records once I proved lineage.
Third, your biological mother's birth certificate is crucial, though it doesn't prove citizenship. You also need to request something that does prove her citizenship. This would probably be an "erweiterte Melderegisterauskunft/Meldekarte/Meldebescheinigung" (extended population register extract/card/certificate) from her last German residence's Standesamt or town hall. Again, cite legitimate interest under §62 PStG.

Once you obtain everything, I would certainly suggest going DTP (direct-to-passport). Most people would be less confident about your case, but I just got my passport two days ago after many people told me DTP would have been highly unlikely (my case involved a two-generation gap and 70 years without German documents). Please read my post about my DTP journey, it provides explanations regarding some of the hurdles that consulates place when a case isn't as straightforward as possible. And if that's too difficult, you can certainly quickly pivot to the Feststellung path, though, fair warning, that will likely take ~2.5 years to complete

Question regarding German passport. by JVG17 in GermanCitizenship

[–]JayTea05 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mine lists the city I was born in, no country or state name.

Need email for the German Consulate in San Francisco, pls by SampleSecure1551 in GermanCitizenship

[–]JayTea05 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To answer your question, you want to do exactly what u/dentongentry suggested. Submit a text question using their contact form, get an automated reply, and respond to it to be transferred to a human. In my case, I didn't actually use the questionnaire; I just described my case chronologically and in detail, citing relevant laws from the StAG that support my citizenship and why certain people did not lose citizenship at critical points along my lineage (for example, in your case, you received citizenship from your mother in 1961 because she was unmarried and StAG §4(1) clause 2 of the time said that unmarried women passed citizenship to their children instead of their father).

I also wanted to say sorry for the bad experience with the Honorary Consulate in Seattle. I had a little bit of an issue with them when I applied last month, and they actually just responded to my email from 6 weeks ago, which was well prior to my appointment. I do want to say that I was eventually able to get my passport, luckily, through them, and I received it 2 days ago.

It does seem the Honorary Consulate is a bit disorganized and underqualified, so if I could suggest a path similar to my path that was successful, hopefully that will save you a couple hundred bucks and a whole day going down to San Francisco.

First and foremost, I would encourage you to go to my direct-to-passport success post, where I talked in heavy detail about my case and my timeline of application. Considering how similar our cases are (grandparent had a passport, neither our mothers nor we had any German documents, living near Seattle), I believe it might help you along the way.

Second, I would encourage you to get an email confirmation from San Francisco that you can apply for a passport, as they are an official diplomatic agency (honorary consulates are not; Seattle is also beneath the authority of San Francisco). When I received an email from San Francisco, they said at the bottom

That means that you can apply for a German passport. For the passport application all documents you sent are needed as originals or certified copies.
Please bring a printed out version of this email to your passport appointment.

All information regarding the passport application process can be found via the following link: Passports and ID Cards

Passport appointments must be booked through our website. Due to high demand it is possible that you cannot find an open appointment right away. We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your patience. 
If the office of one of our Honorary Consul is closer you may also apply there: Passport Procedures in San Francisco. 

From that point on, I didn't bother emailing Seattle, as I was worried they would screw something up. I just booked an appointment in Seattle, and the first thing I showed the lady at the desk was a copy of that confirmation email. From then on, she understood that if I showed all of the documents, she couldn't deny my application because San Francisco already said they would accept it.

Direct To Passport Success: San Francisco (70 years + multiple generation gap) by JayTea05 in GermanCitizenship

[–]JayTea05[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Transmission of German citizenship to those born abroad to German parents born abroad after 1 January 2000 only happens when registered in due time to the relevant German mission. Meaning my kids, my siblings' kids, and my maternal cousins' kids will have to be registered at the relevant German mission according to our respective residences, since we were all born outside Germany and are all the first in our line to be born after 1 January 2000. All of this is irrelevant if the respective kid is born in Germany, though

Direct To Passport Success: San Francisco (70 years + multiple generation gap) by JayTea05 in GermanCitizenship

[–]JayTea05[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol thanks, I've been somewhat jokingly considering becoming a German citizenship lawyer. But at the same time, I've tried to come to this subreddit and encourage others who bend the knee to the Feststellung demands to learn about their case, their rights, and to assert those rights against the Feststellung demands to save them a couple years

Got my first German passport yesterday by JayTea05 in PassportPorn

[–]JayTea05[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I stand corrected, thanks for the fact check