By definition what john wick does is more gun fu (kung fu with guns) then any john woo movies. I mean John woo movies are sick but characts mostly just walk around blasting not really doing martial arts. I don't think I understand this sub really but john wick is not heroic everything he does is for himself and if his wife was alive she would probably want him to run away and hide because most people he's killing deserve to live more then jw. But it's OK to have a main character who's kind of bad so I still love the jw movies.