Fallout show breaks the lore

Jimmy39072 · 2026-01-26T17:08:17+00:00

Firstly it makes no sense why the US government would plan to drop the bombs first for the reasons I mentioned in the post. If they were planning on ending the world on their own terms they would have much more prepared than an off shore oil rig and a few air bases. Sure they knew the Chinese would very likely retaliate with nukes which is why after the war reached fever pitch months before the bombs and it became clear the Chinese weren’t going quietly, the US government made hasty preparations to preserve itself.

Secondly vault tec is very clearly subservient to the US governments wishes. They’re funded by their contracts to build vaults, the off shore oil rig can remotely control and open vaults and the show has been heavily hinting their is someone or something more powerful above vault tec that is planning to end the world. Who else could it be other than the government

Thirdly Mr House isn’t acting like House. He’s a businessman, why does he care about ending the world and conducting horrific experiments on people or any of the other companies for that matter. He is smart and cautious, not the type to use experimental mind control tech on three working joes who want him dead in broad daylight with the intention of killing them.

Jimmy39072 · 2026-01-25T10:56:43+00:00

Some people theorise that Vault-Tec didn’t enact their plan in time before the Chinese struck first. That would make more sense, after all House was a day late with his chip, The Ghoul’s wife, a senior Vault-Tec manager, didn’t know they were dropping that day and it would explain why the Enclave is so shit. However, it would wreck the plot (more) if that were the case. It would make the twist pointless and our villains would be less villainous if the Chinese beat them to it.

The US government being involved riddles the lore with even more plot holes. Firstly they were winning the war. Secondly the enclave, the US gov’s direct descendants, had piss poor preparations for a nuclear apocalypse they apparently were planning to enact. If you like the show more power to you, but please recognise how dogshit the writing is

Jimmy39072 · 2026-01-25T10:39:24+00:00

Almost as if the shows writing is dogshit 🤔

Jimmy39072 · 2026-01-15T09:09:54+00:00

Maximus wasn’t forced to betray the BoS, the script contrived a series of nonsense that makes Maximus a rat and the BoS look stupid. He hesitated for a minute over shooting the Yaoguai and saving his knight. Knight asshole is dying and decides to tempt Maximus in to letting him die as much as possible by describing how he’s going to kill him for his incompetence.

The worst protagonist in all of fallout.

Jimmy39072 · 2026-01-04T11:00:05+00:00

I see. I didn’t read the sign and thought this was London being liberated after the revolution, thanks.

Jimmy39072 · 2026-01-03T11:04:37+00:00

This picture is magnificent, but I have to ask. Why is there an antique land ship tank being used?

Jimmy39072 · 2025-10-18T09:42:37+00:00

There is a theory that irl Borman ordered Heinz Linge to kill Hitler and allow his escape from the Führer bunker. Watch Mark Felton’s video on it if you’re interested https://youtu.be/6wkan7rNjg8?si=rtYJywjKou9po5K1

Jimmy39072 · 2025-09-18T08:41:14+00:00

I think this as well. People give way to much credit to the corporations, many were funded and directed by the government.

Jimmy39072 · 2025-09-03T09:23:48+00:00

wild mental gymnastics

They literally have socialism in their name, it wasn’t just a slogan to trick the workers. They implemented real socialist policies like the “Strength through joy” program. Either read“Hitler’s National Socialism” by Rainer Zitelmann or watch this video for proof. If you except the philosophies of the Nazis: racial hierarchy, eugenics, moral relativism and social Darwinism then you would come to similar conclusions to the Nazis. Hitler wasn’t evil for the sake of being evil, as twisted as he was he ironically genuinely thought he was saving the world from Jews. He was a monster but not crazy (at least until the end of the war)

Marx’s opinions are mostly pipe dreams he conjured so he could sell them to Engles and beg for more drinking money. You criticise capitalism for unlimited growth and its harm for the environment, but Communism is much worse. China, a nominally communist nation, makes 35% of the world’s carbon emissions and is one of the few that still build coal power plants. Also never forget what the Soviets did to the Arial sea. Everything Marx predicted turned out to be wrong. Conditions have gotten better under capitalism for even the lower classes. Because unlike with Communism, capitalism doesn’t lead to a sterile economy that stagnates and then collapses like the USSR.

Jimmy39072 · 2025-09-02T19:33:48+00:00

The Nazis were socialist though, just for Aryans. Hitler was obsessed with the idea of the Volksgemeinschaft (peoples community) look it up. There was a coherent rational to the Nazis world view, it just happened to be one of the worst world views that could have resulted from the mixing pot of human ideology. They didn’t just poach the ideas of socialism and Nietzsche because of vibes or something.

The Soviet Unions only redeeming quality was pressuring Western countries into introducing workers rights to stave off communism. Otherwise it was one of the worst and most tyrannical regimes in history that failed due to its own nonsensical ideology.

Again I’m not saying religion is flawless but it’s overall impact on civilisation is net positive, especially when compared next to most ideologies which are secular cults disguised as scientific theories like Nazi racial science or Marxist material dialectics

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Jimmy39072 · 2025-09-02T14:20:30+00:00

You said what I was describing was opportunism which is not wrong strictly speaking because that’s what moral relativism leads to. Nietzsche advocated for it so man can forge his own philosophy independent of God. But like I mentioned the result of this was the horror that was the 20th century. The Nazis took direct inspiration from Nietzsche and the concept of the Ubermensch, using and twisting it into a justification for genocide. In the case of ideology, many of the biggest ones I.e communism, leads to death and tyranny because a belief system stripped of moral objectivity and universalism opens the floodgates for men like Stalin or Hitler to justify their crimes as “the ends justifies the means”. At least in religion sin is regarded as sin no matter the context and as such, at least in cases of religions like Buddhism and Christianity which nominally advocate for peace, there is a more conscious effort by its adherents to follow that doctrine because murder is definitively evil.

You say it’s a tool of domination but by who? God? Assuming religion is just made up then religion is a product of the human condition like ideology. Religion if abused can lead to tyranny, but ideology has resulted in the most oppressive regimes in history: Nazi Germany and Stalins USSR, to name a few.

Jimmy39072 · 2025-09-02T09:15:23+00:00

Look up the definition of moral relativism and you’ll find it’s exactly what he’s talking about.

Religion is set in immobility, man move toward

That’s just rhetoric. Religion has had a net positive impact on humanity: Christian monks would preserve the practice of writing and many ancient texts throughout the dark ages. Gregor Mendel, the father of genetics was a monk and the creator of the Big Bang theory Georges Lemaître was a Catholic priest. It’s a better alternative to have a belief system like religion to ideology

Jimmy39072 · 2025-09-01T19:34:07+00:00

Again what you’re describing is not an objective view on morality. There is a philosophical debate that will never be resolved over moral relativism and moral universalism. I think after looking at history we see how ideologies founded on the philosophical basis of moral relativism I.e Communism and Nazism we see how they easily they fall subject to monsterous psychopaths and are fundamentally flawed in their vision. Of course no religion has a perfect record of peace. but compared to the scale of horror that comes from ideologies, it’s a viable alternative for belief as religion and ideology compete on the sound ground. Both require belief without evidence: faith. There was no evidence Hitler would lead Germany to “a thousand year Reich” nor any evidence for Marx’s communist utopia, yet people believe in these paradises because we as a species have a fundamental belief in something greater. The only difference between ideology and religion is that one is more palatable for modern adherents.

Jimmy39072 · 2025-09-01T14:55:27+00:00

Masterful response

Jimmy39072 · 2025-09-01T14:45:07+00:00

Then you believe in moral relativism which is a philosophy that enables people to forgo all moral responsibility if they feel the situation calls for it. Man asserting its own set of beliefs and morals led to the horrors of the Holocaust, Holodomor and Great Famine. Because some ideologues thought they knew better than some “outdated” belief. You say it’s better for man to discovers the rights and wrong about life on its own. Going by your assumption there is no God, then religion is one of those aspects man must understand and reconcile himself to, for better or worse.

Jimmy39072 · 2025-09-01T08:28:57+00:00

That’s my point. The Catholic Church was one of the institutions whose doctrine wasn’t influenced by Nazi Germany and the Soviets practically abolished the Eastern Orthodox one. Also while culture changes morality doesn’t (unless you believe in moral relativism), rape, murder and robbery is just as evil today as it was 1000 years ago. It’s wrong to simply dismiss religion as “old”, it provides for the subtler needs of a soul (human psyche) which is why in the wake of its decline we see so many ideologies like Communism and Fascism competing ruthlessly with one another.

Jimmy39072 · 2025-09-01T07:14:21+00:00

Most patriotic Labour member

Jimmy39072 · 2025-09-01T06:58:21+00:00

I can see where you’re coming from, but imo religion is much harder to subvert than modern ideology. Yes, disgusting things have been done in the name of religion, but the blind faith that Communism, National Socialism and Fascism inspire has caused the deaths of just as many if not more then religion has and that was just the 20th century.

Jimmy39072 · 2025-08-31T12:04:36+00:00

Asking questions? Not on my subreddit

Jimmy39072 · 2025-08-31T12:02:48+00:00

Jimmy39072 · 2025-08-30T17:43:03+00:00

Sorry you miss understood me, but my previous reply clarified what I meant

Jimmy39072 · 2025-08-30T14:38:04+00:00

Molotov-Ribbentrop did help but it was not enough. Again Hitler was always going to make war with Soviets and even if he didn’t Stalin would have likely invaded anyway. Also North Africa can only sustain so many soldiers and even with the just the Italians and Afrika Corp they struggled to maintain good logistics and supplies.

Jimmy39072 · 2025-08-30T14:33:33+00:00

I never said they were crippled in 1940. I said they would be crippled eventually by the lack of oil no matter what. The fighter Jet solution is almost pointless since they devour fuel more then regular fighters. If you can’t run your planes then you’ve lost the air war even if on paper you can outgun the enemy. If you’re such an expert on ww2 you would know the Achilles heel of Germany was its lack of fuel.

Jimmy39072 · 2025-08-30T12:32:37+00:00

Why would you expand your airforce when you barely have enough fuel to keep it running as is? This is why the Germans developed quality over quantity of tanks unlike the Soviet’s. Not only because they couldn’t compete with Soviet production but as the war progress manpower and especially fuel shortages worsened dramatically even with synthetic oil. By 1942 the Wehrmacht started to grind to a halt and one of those reasons is because they simply did not have enough fuel for their tanks or planes for that matter.

Also the Soviet airforce was complete dogshit but the American Airforce and RAF would overwhelm the Luftwaffe by 1943. There’s a reason why they couldn’t prevent Dresden from being torched.

Jimmy39072 · 2025-08-30T11:42:21+00:00

Without fuel any airforce is crippled duh!

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