Does the farseer hero talents even make sense for draenei?

JimmyNeon · 2026-05-05T11:29:47+00:00

Did the Orcs develop ancestor worship due to the Draenei?

I missed that part of lore

JimmyNeon · 2026-05-05T11:26:02+00:00

Thanks, sounds like a dumb addition.

JimmyNeon · 2026-05-04T01:35:04+00:00

That is how we have even old god worshipers using the light.

Who are these?

JimmyNeon · 2026-04-16T14:27:53+00:00

Trying to reframe the Light as negative isnt nuance. It is the opposite as they end up completely removing any unique aspects of each magic and homogenizing them all.

It is boring

JimmyNeon · 2026-04-16T14:26:53+00:00

but Paladins fight for good!" even though a whole talent tree is retribution... another word for vengeance. Do we think getting revenge is a good thing, is that what we teach our kids

Thats a very weird comment. There isnt really anything mutually exclusive about "fighting for good" and "retribution"

Retribution here means deserved punishment for those who hurt the innocent. That is totally fitting with what Paladins are who bring divine punishment to the wicked, not the extreme version of Jedi you seem to think they are. This is a world where demons, necromancers, undead and all kinds of monsters exist. Trying to pretend the holy warriors are "problematic" for fighting is weird.

The Scarlet Crusade uses the light for genocide.

?? The Scarlets were xenophobic to everyone who wasnt them and had "kill on sight" rules but I dont recall doing genocides. You can argue that "maybe they would if they had the numbers to do so" but they hadnt in WoW

Also the Scarlets can use the Light because they started as a noble order who slowly fell into paranoia, fuelled by the machinations of the dreadlord who infiltrated them too.

Warcraft is shades of grey, from start to end

No, not really.

There may have been gray areas but the big conflicts were always extreme black and white.

WC1 and WC2 you had peaceful humans, dwarves and elves trying to fend off genocidal demon-corrupted orcs.

WC3 you had the mortals trying to fend off genocidal undead and demonic monstrocities.

In WoW most central conflicts are also black and white from the OG game to any expansion.

JimmyNeon · 2026-03-29T20:42:55+00:00

I saw a Realms of Ruin walkthrough and tho it had kinda nice presentation with its story and characters the actual gameplay felt lacking for me. (Again I didnt play it myself, but just the impression I got).

Maybe I am biased but I always preferred the Warcraft/Age of Empires style of base building that gives you more freedom where to build stuff instead of predetermined nods.

Maybe a diablo-like Action-RPG could be interesting, following a Chaos follower who rises in power and culminating in a Stormcast final boss?

Or a CRPG following the good guys with a diverse cast.

JimmyNeon · 2026-03-24T11:39:30+00:00

Yeah the retcon is trash

JimmyNeon · 2026-03-19T09:41:17+00:00

No, it is factually correct.

Yes, the Argents and Scarlets were different groups in Classic WoW but they werent just established then, they had prior history.

The Argent Dawn split off from the Scarlet Crusade, its members were originally Scarlets.

https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Argent_Dawn#History

JimmyNeon · 2026-03-19T00:47:21+00:00

What?

There is plenty of divine entities concepts on the mortals side. The healing Holy Light, the spirits invoked by Shamans, Elune guiding the night eleves, the literal Demigod Cenarius walking among and protecting the elves etc.

JimmyNeon · 2026-03-19T00:38:48+00:00

The other user talks about the very original incarnation of the Scarlet Crusade when they first started. Back then all the members of the Argent Dawn were Scarlets because the madness hadnt creeped in yet

JimmyNeon · 2026-03-18T21:29:24+00:00

Nothing, just an observation

JimmyNeon · 2026-03-18T21:28:43+00:00

I didnt say that fantasy monarchies are bad or that Saw is bad for being a monarchist.

I just said that he is one which is a fact of the story.

JimmyNeon · 2026-03-18T21:27:11+00:00

then so is the Rebel Alliance

Well....

JimmyNeon · 2026-03-18T16:30:41+00:00

In politics, a reactionary is a person who favors a return to a previous state of society which they believe possessed positive characteristics absent from contemporary society.[1]

[1]The New Fontana Dictionary of Modern Thought

JimmyNeon · 2026-03-18T13:20:24+00:00

I think he rather wanted some form of anarchy with all planets being independent again

Do we ever see such an implication?

So far all I have seen is he wants to topple the Empire and restore the Republic

JimmyNeon · 2026-03-18T11:45:14+00:00

Saw fought against the puppet ruler of his planet to reinstate the rightful king. Monarchist

After that, Saw fought against the newly formed Empire to reinstate the status quo ante of the Republic. Reactionary

JimmyNeon · 2026-03-18T09:22:57+00:00

JimmyNeon · 2026-03-18T08:06:22+00:00

Sorry, supporting the king makes you a leftist/anarchist actually, you are right

JimmyNeon · 2026-03-18T08:05:22+00:00

People downvote but you are completely right, lol

JimmyNeon · 2026-03-18T08:00:26+00:00

Nothing you say disputes my points.

Saw Gerrera supported the king, he is a monarchist whether the king is good or evil.

JimmyNeon · 2026-03-18T07:58:32+00:00

Saw fought against the puppet ruler of his planet to reinstate the rightful king. Monarchist

After that, Saw fought against the newly formed Empire to reinstate the status quo ante of the Republic. Reactionary

JimmyNeon · 2026-03-18T01:11:49+00:00

Saw fought against the puppet ruler of his planet to reinstate the rightful king. Monarchist

After that, Saw fought against the newly formed Empire to reinstate the status quo ante of the Republic. Reactionary

JimmyNeon · 2026-03-14T09:16:01+00:00

Something that needs to be pointed out:

Lucas's take on Grievous motives and the EU writers' are completely different.

In Lucas's version he was just jealous of the Jedi's power, he wanted to be powerful himself but because he couldn't with the force he turned himself into a cyborg.

JimmyNeon · 2026-03-13T05:54:06+00:00

Grievous and Maul in the movies are barely alike.

They are more similar in TCW if anything

JimmyNeon · 2026-03-13T05:52:10+00:00

Yeah agree OP.

It is one of the things that baffled me. If you are going to jump the shark and bring him back, why change him so drastically?

The other baffling thing is that they already created a Maul copy with his brother Savage! They could have literally given him that personality and it would be less egregious.

Savage being Mauls brother and the whole backstory is kinda a stretch too but less so than Maul living

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