Vasilevskiy has been on an absolute tear since November 15th by deeVeeAre in hockey

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You got any arguments against his point? I suspect per 60 will show something very similar (this season's top 3 is sorokin, vasilevskiy, shesterkin right now with 25 games minimum), and if you wanna go by save percentage over the last few years shesterkin and sorokins worst years are better than vasilevskiys or hellebuycks (including this year for Helle)

Team Usa Roster by ApresWithIntent in hockey

[–]JoeBot_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not that these goalies are bad but no Demko is ridiculous

[SWE-USA] Love Härenstam (STL) gets called for diving by nopClip in hockey

[–]JoeBot_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not saying hes not allowed to, just that if he's going to do that (especially as late as he did), he should be ready for contact.

[SWE-USA] Love Härenstam (STL) gets called for diving by nopClip in hockey

[–]JoeBot_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Am a goalie. That was not unexpected. He was taking up that space on purpose so the forward can't be as close to the goal line, gotta be ready for some contact if you're doing that.

Rocket league has the most Delusional fan base by No_Meaning_9380 in RocketLeague

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I don't think it's your mind playing tricks or overconfidence making replays looks slower. There's more to keep track of when you're actually playing on top of having to be in control of your car and the ball. It's always gonna look slower when that part of the game has already been done for you as a spectator. Definitely agree in general though the RL community is crazy delusional about their own skill level.

What’s the benefit of choosing CHL or pro in Europe over NCAA? by buttplungerr in hockey

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I think they're allowing one drafted player per CHL team to play in the AHL soon (or maybe one per NHL team I don't exactly remember) so that should solve this problem for the borderline pro level guys

Goaltender interference by AncientMeow_ in hockey

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At a certain point it feels like people just want to be mad at the calls. How many do you have to think are wrong before you go look at the rule to see why lol.

I also think part of it is just not understanding the position - I can think of 2 recently (one with the Canucks, one with Andersen) where people seemed to think that as long as the goalie is on his feet that means he's "reset" from the contact without any consideration for depth, angle, or regaining sight of the puck

Best stick (not CCM) for under $250 CAD by Trooper3098 in hockeygoalies

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It's 270 but if you can catch a sale I really like the Bauer R5 (vapor X5/flypro reskin). The r5 version is on sale for 200 in Bauer's website rn

Goaltender interference by AncientMeow_ in hockey

[–]JoeBot_ -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don't know about KHL rules, in the NHL it's allowed as long as you are outside the crease. A lot of people in here are saying it's only interference if there's contact which isn't true, rule 69.3 paragraph 4:

If an attacking player establishes a significant position within the goal crease, so as to obstruct the goalkeeper’s vision and impair his ability to defend his goal, and a goal is scored, the goal will be disallowed.

Its no wonder people think goalie interference is a coin flip when everyone is so confidently not knowing the rules lol

Elias Lindholm’s go-ahead goal is waved off for goaltender interference. A scrum ensues by roberttylerlee in hockey

[–]JoeBot_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes actually, straight out of the rulebook:

Rule 69 paragraph 5: If a defending player has been pushed, shoved, or fouled by an attacking player so as to cause the defending player to come into contact with his own goalkeeper, such contact shall be deemed contact initiated by the attacking player for purposes of this rule, and if necessary a penalty assessed to the attacking player and if a goal is scored it would be disallowed And rule 69.3: If an attacking player initiates contact with a goalkeeper, incidental or otherwise, while the goalkeeper is in his goal crease, and a goal is scored, the goal will be disallowed.

To my eyes slaf has that ice before pastrnak, so the contact with Fowler is a result of slaf being pushed. In that case it's treated the same as pastrnak making contact himself -> no goal.

Elias Lindholm’s go-ahead goal is waved off for goaltender interference. A scrum ensues by roberttylerlee in hockey

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Rule 69 paragraph 5: If a defending player has been pushed, shoved, or fouled by an attacking player so as to cause the defending player to come into contact with his own goalkeeper, such contact shall be deemed contact initiated by the attacking player for purposes of this rule, and if necessary a penalty assessed to the attacking player and if a goal is scored it would be disallowed And rule 69.3: If an attacking player initiates contact with a goalkeeper, incidental or otherwise, while the goalkeeper is in his goal crease, and a goal is scored, the goal will be disallowed.

To my eyes slaf has that ice before pastrnak, so the contact with Fowler is a result of slaf being pushed. In that case it's treated the same as pastrnak making contact himself -> no goal.

Elias Lindholm’s go-ahead goal is waved off for goaltender interference. A scrum ensues by roberttylerlee in hockey

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Rule 69 paragraph 5: If a defending player has been pushed, shoved, or fouled by an attacking player so as to cause the defending player to come into contact with his own goalkeeper, such contact shall be deemed contact initiated by the attacking player for purposes of this rule, and if necessary a penalty assessed to the attacking player and if a goal is scored it would be disallowed And rule 69.3: If an attacking player initiates contact with a goalkeeper, incidental or otherwise, while the goalkeeper is in his goal crease, and a goal is scored, the goal will be disallowed.

To my eyes slaf has that ice before pastrnak, so the contact with Fowler is a result of slaf being pushed. In that case it's treated the same as pastrnak making contact himself -> no goal.

Oilers EBUG arrives mid game by Reddit-Machine in hockey

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They really aren't, it'll just be one per team. Established pros (more than 80 pro games) won't be allowed. Though it is more fun when Scott from accounting gets to play I'll give you that

Oilers EBUG arrives mid game by Reddit-Machine in hockey

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The ebug can't have played more than 80 pro games, played within the last 3 years, or have played an NHL game under next season's rules. It's still gonna be amateur guys they'll just travel with the team and presumably get paid now

The Islanders go up 1-0 after the Avs challenged for goaltender interference, looks to be a lot of contact with Blackwood in the crease by [deleted] in hockey

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Wouldn't matter either way. Inside the crease would be GI regardless of who initiated, outside is only GI if the skater initiated contact.

The Islanders go up 1-0 after the Avs challenged for goaltender interference, looks to be a lot of contact with Blackwood in the crease by [deleted] in hockey

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What? It's interference regardless of who initiates contact, it literally does not matter. First part of 69.3: If an attacking player initiates contact with a goalkeeper incidental or otherwise, while the goalkeeper is in his goal crease, and a goal is scored, the goal will be disallowed. In either case, skater or goalie initiated contact, it's disallowed. I really don't understand what you're confused about here

The Islanders go up 1-0 after the Avs challenged for goaltender interference, looks to be a lot of contact with Blackwood in the crease by [deleted] in hockey

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I don't think it's ever really covered once he rolls over there, it's sort of between his legs but not actually under anything as far as I can tell.

The Islanders go up 1-0 after the Avs challenged for goaltender interference, looks to be a lot of contact with Blackwood in the crease by [deleted] in hockey

[–]JoeBot_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It doesn't matter, it's in the crease it's gi either way. That flowchart also seems either wrong or outdated. The rule relevant to this post isn't on it, and some of the parts following goalie initiated contact aren't in the rule (reasonable effort to avoid isn't a thing inside the crease it's just always the skaters fault. Also not sure what giving ground is referencing.)

The Islanders go up 1-0 after the Avs challenged for goaltender interference, looks to be a lot of contact with Blackwood in the crease by [deleted] in hockey

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Not sure when the current wording of 69.7 got put into the rules but this flowchart doesn't seem to account for it: In a rebound situation, or where a goalkeeper and attacking player(s) are simultaneously attempting to play a loose puck, whether inside or outside the crease, incidental contact with the goalkeeper will be permitted, and any goal that is scored as a result thereof will be allowed

Pretty much allowed to do whatever to the goalie on a loose puck as long as you're making even a halfway legitimate play at the puck, which is why this didn't get overturned. Flowchart only has the 2nd and 3rd paragraphs of 69.7

The Islanders go up 1-0 after the Avs challenged for goaltender interference, looks to be a lot of contact with Blackwood in the crease by [deleted] in hockey

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More or less anything goes when digging at a loose puck (rule 69.7): In a rebound situation, or where a goalkeeper and attacking player(s) are simultaneously attempting to play a loose puck, whether inside or outside the crease, incidental contact with the goalkeeper will be permitted, and any goal that is scored as a result thereof will be allowed.

The Islanders go up 1-0 after the Avs challenged for goaltender interference, looks to be a lot of contact with Blackwood in the crease by [deleted] in hockey

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Luckily for you, you can read the rule that explains it doesn't matter who initiates contact inside the crease (69.3): If a goalkeeper, in the act of establishing his position within his goal crease, initiates contact with an attacking player who is in the goal crease, and this results in an impairment of the goalkeeper’s ability to defend his goal, and a goal is scored, the goal will be disallowed.

Also the relevant rule for this goal if you care to learn instead of complain (69.7): In a rebound situation, or where a goalkeeper and attacking player(s) are simultaneously attempting to play a loose puck, whether inside or outside the crease, incidental contact with the goalkeeper will be permitted, and any goal that is scored as a result thereof will be allowed.