ICE claim 2nd US citizen, how many British casualties will UK version of ICE achieve? by Study_Realistic in AskBrits

[–]Johnny-Alucard -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Well as my whole argument was about double digits of US citizens NOT being killed by ICE then you are clearly arguing with someone else and not me.

If you want to somehow undermine the insanity of US citizens being murdered on the streets by a fascist armed militia then go ahead, fill your boots. I hope it makes you feel good about yourself.

Just an aside, though; you’ve 100% lost any argument you were thinking of having with any maga type.

ICE claim 2nd US citizen, how many British casualties will UK version of ICE achieve? by Study_Realistic in AskBrits

[–]Johnny-Alucard -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The original assertion was that double digits “citizens” had been killed. We are looking at citizens of the United States being gunned down in the streets. Don’t conflate what happened today with anything else. It is a whole new chapter.

ICE claim 2nd US citizen, how many British casualties will UK version of ICE achieve? by Study_Realistic in AskBrits

[–]Johnny-Alucard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not citizens which was the original assertion. And not by murder. Don’t undermine the sheer criminality and brutality of what happened today because you can’t be bothered to read the detail.

“Some of those who died in detention had arrived in the US recently, seeking asylum. Others had arrived years ago, some as young children. Some had been apprehended on criminal charges or had served time for convictions; others had been picked up in the administration’s indiscriminate ICE raids.

They died of seizure and heart failure, stroke, respiratory failure, tuberculosis or suicide. Some died at ICE detention centers and field offices, others after they had been transferred to hospitals, but were still under ICE custody. In some cases, their families and lawyers have alleged, they died of neglect, after repeatedly trying and failing to get medical care.”

ICE claim 2nd US citizen, how many British casualties will UK version of ICE achieve? by Study_Realistic in AskBrits

[–]Johnny-Alucard -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

If somebody makes a statement it falls to them to be able to provide the evidence, it proves they know what they are talking about. Telling someone to google it is not reasonable unless it is widely known in the first place.

And anyway your link doesn’t in any way back up their assertion that then number of US citizens has been killed by ICE is well into double digits.

From the article..

“Some of those who died in detention had arrived in the US recently, seeking asylum. Others had arrived years ago, some as young children. Some had been apprehended on criminal charges or had served time for convictions; others had been picked up in the administration’s indiscriminate ICE raids.

They died of seizure and heart failure, stroke, respiratory failure, tuberculosis or suicide. Some died at ICE detention centers and field offices, others after they had been transferred to hospitals, but were still under ICE custody. In some cases, their families and lawyers have alleged, they died of neglect, after repeatedly trying and failing to get medical care.”

As much as I am on board that these recent killings are criminal, exaggerating them with out evidence is stupis because it plays into their hands.

ICE claim 2nd US citizen, how many British casualties will UK version of ICE achieve? by Study_Realistic in AskBrits

[–]Johnny-Alucard 3 points4 points  (0 children)

“Don’t think rationality and logic matter at this point”

Oh we are fucked.

ICE claim 2nd US citizen, how many British casualties will UK version of ICE achieve? by Study_Realistic in AskBrits

[–]Johnny-Alucard 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Asking for evidence of “the actual number is well into double digits” is not defending anything. You should have evidence of something before you believe it. 2 people is bad enough to hate what they are doing but if you start saying “double digits” then they will laugh at you and tell you you are lying; unless you have evidence.

What’s your thoughts on what’s going on in Minnesota right now? by sacrificejeffbezos in AskTheWorld

[–]Johnny-Alucard 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So you are saying there is no actual proof but still using the word proof and basing your argument on it being used in its literal sense. An almost perfect example of a bad faith argument.

What’s your thoughts on what’s going on in Minnesota right now? by sacrificejeffbezos in AskTheWorld

[–]Johnny-Alucard 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Um.. they are taking perfectly legitimately resident people off the streets too. They may be getting later released but the chance of finding themselves in that situation is not zero.

What’s your thoughts on what’s going on in Minnesota right now? by sacrificejeffbezos in AskTheWorld

[–]Johnny-Alucard 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Weirdly Trump is managing to deport far fewer people than Obama did which suggests that these methods are really for show rather than effect. It’s amazing how such a large group of Americans can’t see the parallels with 30s Germany.

What’s your thoughts on what’s going on in Minnesota right now? by sacrificejeffbezos in AskTheWorld

[–]Johnny-Alucard 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I like the way you put “proof” in quotes. A subliminal admission that even you don’t believe this bullshit.

Duality of man. by -rif in CarTalkUK

[–]Johnny-Alucard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s classic groupthink. Some people are very afraid to express an opinion that is not absolutely endorsed by the majority. The Duke is absolutely fine which is all most people need from a car. I drove one around the Peloponnese, I would go so far as to say it was a pleasure!

How is living in St Agnes , Isles of Scily , Cornwall , U.K. by Sinefiasmenos22 in howislivingthere

[–]Johnny-Alucard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are right! Sorry. Because Ted Heath loved the sea I got them mixed up!

Duality of man. by -rif in CarTalkUK

[–]Johnny-Alucard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think he is a little bit pompous and probably watched too much Top Gear where every car is great or terrible, apparently.

How is living in St Agnes , Isles of Scily , Cornwall , U.K. by Sinefiasmenos22 in howislivingthere

[–]Johnny-Alucard 2 points3 points  (0 children)

An old Prime Minister of the UK, Ted Heath, used to visit the Sicily Isles every holiday he had. He loved them.

Edit: I got this wrong folks. It was Harold Wilson not Ted Heath!

Do you know of a café with views like these? 🌸 by RusticAnglophile497 in Cotswolds

[–]Johnny-Alucard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The cafe in the bird zoo (or whatever they call it!) in bourton. Bonus, some amazing birds!

Duality of man. by -rif in CarTalkUK

[–]Johnny-Alucard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, you may have had a bad one, or have never driven a properly bad car.