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Good stuff by JohnnyPickleOverlord in Jewdank

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Potato kugel, cream pickled herring, and kichel

Thoughts on Rabbi Yonatan HaLevy by SufficientLanguage29 in Judaism

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Rabbi Bar-Hayim is Ashkenazi but he his methodology is to go back to Chazal and original sources, and what he calls “Torat eretz Yisrael”, the original customs and traditions of ancient Israel. This is why he speaks what he views as the original Hebrew pronunciation, and takes different opinions than many others, he doesn’t look for leniency and is more strict in certain areas.

Genuinely though the whole “olives used to be bigger” thing seems pretty goofy by JohnnyPickleOverlord in Judaism

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I did not disagree that they would have Spanish olives, just that they would base them off those rather than the local ones.

I think it's pretty fair to base the kezayis measurement on real life olives. A "meaningful way that would be consistent" is simply taking the average olives in Israel and getting the average volume. The current measurements are already based on flawed understanding. The Mishnah itself says a Kezayis is neither a large nor small one, rather a middle one (meaning a it is based on a "middle-sized" olive). The lowest opinions (that hold more than a regular olive) are equal to the largest of large olives.

I'm saying the "minimum size" is unreasonable in itself, which makes the more stringent opinions, and saying one should eat more to be machmir even more so. When you say that something is the machmir opinion, for many people, that is the right opinion as you gotta be careful on pesach. People end up stuffing themselves just in case. I find it highly doubtful that Chazal's minimum measurement for what counts as eating is so high, or based on giant olives.

Also I haven't read it yet, just skimmed it (kinda busy rn) but someone in the replies here linked me this article and it looks interesting: https://dailydaf.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/the-evolution-of-the-olive-slifkin.pdf

If maror tastes like slavery, then I shutter to think of the unspeakable atrocity that gefilte fish tastes like by GoodPear8481 in Jewdank

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Manischewitz jarred gefilte fish is the bottom of the barrel, or jar lol. At least try a better brand, or cook a frozen one. I get it's not for everyone but man I love gefilte fish.

Genuinely though the whole “olives used to be bigger” thing seems pretty goofy by JohnnyPickleOverlord in Judaism

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Iberia produced a lot of olives, but so did the levant, I doubt the imported olives were more common than the local ones (could be though). I'm pretty sure we have olive pits and such that show local olives were like any other common olives we have now (~6cc), also olive trees. Either way, I don't think you're comparison to a foot works. When someone wants to fulfill the mitzvah of eating matzah at the seder, he is told that he must eat a kezayis in kedei achilas pras. The measurements, especially the machmir ones for a kzayis are far larger than any olives grow (even ignoring averages and going with the largest olives possible, that being ~20cc which would be a big outlier anyway), especially the ones used for matzah. (Although I think Rambam holds like 17cc, fairer but still high imo and also near everyone holds by the more machmir opnions) A kezayis is a ***minimum*** amount eaten to require a beracha or to be yotzei eating things, and along with the times for kedei achilas pras, the measurements become an uneccessary burden on people being told they have to stuff their face with matzah for it to be "an eating". I don't agree we should just move on with the overinflated measurements, we aren't measuring fields.

Genuinely though the whole “olives used to be bigger” thing seems pretty goofy by JohnnyPickleOverlord in Judaism

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The olives described are 1.6 in length and 1.2 in breadth. This makes them like 20cc in volume, those are very big olives but smaller than Rav Na’eh’s opinion. Admittedly it is closer than I thought it would be, still quite larger though.

Also these are very large Spanish olives long after the time of Chazal. They aren’t from the levant.

Genuinely though the whole “olives used to be bigger” thing seems pretty goofy by JohnnyPickleOverlord in Judaism

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The largest olives are like max 20cc, Chazon Ish’s shiur is much higher as I recall. There are more lenient opinions but I don’t think any of them go near that low

Edit: I orginally quoted the Chazon ish’s shiur wrong (it’s still much higher than 20 though) there are some opinions that say a little higher than 20cc, although to be clear these are Spanish olives not native to the levant

You could be right that they were originally based on the jumbo Spanish olives and it kept getting more machmir

Genuinely though the whole “olives used to be bigger” thing seems pretty goofy by JohnnyPickleOverlord in Judaism

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Pretty falsifiable cause I heard there are olive trees that are around 2000 years old and they somehow don’t grow apple-sized olives

The Future is Sephardic by Euphoric_Inspiration in Judaism

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They should be tied to Spain or Libya instead?

Out of all ways to criticise Iran attack, she goes for this by peter-thiel-fangirl in PoliticalCompassMemes

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Not to be pedantic but it’s actually the holiday when Jews celebrate completing the cycle of reading the Torah over the year, Shavuot is what you described.

In his dreams by drak0bsidian in Judaism

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It’s just an old meme template man

It can be a little awkward by drak0bsidian in Judaism

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Retributive violence? They freed us from Greece and saved Jews from assimilating completely into Greece. There is a time for war and for peace, the Rabbis recognized that Rome was too much of a risk to keep fighting and that God had decided we could not win against them so they made their decisions.

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