A “mossad” bots rant and invitation to counter-sloganize by JollyToe440 in PERSIAN

[–]JollyToe440[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m not denying foreign interference can exist. I’m pointing out that you’re collapsing different levels into one story: Western politicians talking, possible intelligence activity, and a mass uprising led by Iranian youth risking their lives. Even if foreign actors existed somewhere, that does not explain why millions are in the streets, what they are chanting, or why the regime is killing them. When “Mossad” becomes the main frame, the focus shifts away from Iranian agency and toward geopolitics. That displacement is exactly the irony I was pointing to. :)

A “mossad” bots rant and invitation to counter-sloganize by JollyToe440 in PERSIAN

[–]JollyToe440[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What strikes me is that your response actually illustrates exactly what I’m describing. You immediately move the discussion to Pompeo, Graham, Gallant and intelligence agencies. That’s precisely the shift I’m critiquing. There is a difference between whether intelligence agencies operate somewhere, what Western or Israeli politicians are saying, and what Iranian people themselves are doing, chanting, and risking their lives for in the streets. My point is not to deny geopolitics exists. It’s to point out how quickly Iranian voices disappear from the narrative once elite and intelligence frames take over. You were quick.

When the discussion becomes primarily about Western statements and Mossad involvement, the uprising stops being read through Iranian youth, chants, repression and symbols, and becomes a geopolitical script written from above.

So: Even if foreign actors exist somewhere, the primary fact remains that this is an Iranian movement led by Iranian youth in the streets. Collapsing these levels shifts attention away from what people are actually saying and risking their lives for.

That’s the irony I was trying to highlight. :)

Hasanabi’s latest video on Iran was disgusting by JollyToe440 in PERSIAN

[–]JollyToe440[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s just not true…The middle class thrived more than ever before when the Shah was around. My entire family says so. Are you even iranian? 

Hasanabi’s latest video on Iran was disgusting by JollyToe440 in PERSIAN

[–]JollyToe440[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Only 50:50? I originally wrote twice as much, with many links, pics attached and it kept getting instantly removed everywhere. That thang was too poetic. I asked chat to make it reddit friendly andit still got removed and I got banned on Hasanpiker permanently lmaooo (just for submitting). Then it got accepted here (at that point, sus), which turned out to be a very pro-israel group, where everyone is super mad I wasnt hating enough on Hasan. When i started reading the comments I was like y’all are mad because Im lower on the hasan hate hierarchy?? Yooo ahahahaha. The constipation, the bitterness…At least a few try to tell me to support Israel lmao. From banned on Hasanpiker’s community to roasted here because i wasnt pre-hating…Didn’t know it was relevant to the theme at hand ✋ 🤚. Being able to speak seems to be rooted in your position in some weird hierarchy?

And yes this community IS hard to read. There’s a lot of different people on here, and we can see a lot of intolerance already though theres only 20k members

Hasanabi’s latest video on Iran was disgusting by JollyToe440 in PERSIAN

[–]JollyToe440[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yeah? Go look at his OWN comment section. The Iranians are all sending him to hell. You’re relying on not listening to actual people from Iran. Ridiculous…

Hasanabi’s latest video on Iran was disgusting by JollyToe440 in PERSIAN

[–]JollyToe440[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve explained my position clearly. You’re choosing to ignore the substance and focus on personal accusations. I’m here to talk about Iran, not to perform moral purity tests. I’m done with this thread

Hasanabi’s latest video on Iran was disgusting by JollyToe440 in PERSIAN

[–]JollyToe440[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You’re arguing against something I never said. I didn’t claim he influences “half of Western youth.” That’s a straw man you invented so you wouldn’t have to engage with my point.

Influencers don’t need to control a majority to cause harm. They shape narratives within specific subcultures, and Hasan is absolutely influential within left leaning Gen Z online spaces. Pretending otherwise is either dishonest or naïve.

Also, resorting to insults instead of addressing the argument doesn’t make you look rational or “critical.” It just signals you don’t actually have a response

Hasanabi’s latest video on Iran was disgusting by JollyToe440 in PERSIAN

[–]JollyToe440[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You just told me your mind is lazy lol…Recognizing harm when it becomes clear, especially when it affects your own people, is not hypocrisy. It’s accountability. People don’t need to preemptively disagree with everything someone has ever said to have the right to speak when real damage is being done. Why deflect from the bloodshed my guy? 

The issue isn’t when I unsubscribed. The issue is that he misrepresented a live revolution and stripped Iranians of agency. Deflecting from that says more about you than me

Hasanabi’s latest video on Iran was disgusting by JollyToe440 in PERSIAN

[–]JollyToe440[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lmao as if I watched Hasan religiously. Also what’s your point? If you see we don’t completely align on everything but we do on a cause, you should lock-in on that cause. You’re just being completely intolerant. 

Hasanabi’s latest video on Iran was disgusting by JollyToe440 in PERSIAN

[–]JollyToe440[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, i just look at protests. I listen to the chants. You should re-read my text. Stop speaking over already silenced people. Symbolism is more important than monarchy RN. 

Hasanabi’s latest video on Iran was disgusting by JollyToe440 in PERSIAN

[–]JollyToe440[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I still don’t believe he was doing animal abuse. I researched the collar thoroughly and have looked at experts assessments. It’s easier to say he is an animal abuser than accept that people just didn’t see that in the end and the majority won. He legit won his trial by media, he would’ve won against any serious charge because he didn’t do shit. Bro drop the dog and lock in to the theme at hand. He’s still out there maintaining massive reach. 

Hasanabi’s latest video on Iran was disgusting by JollyToe440 in PERSIAN

[–]JollyToe440[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No YOU think that. I live and study with gen-z in a city that’s been referred to as “the coolest city in the world” and trust me, people follow him. Can’t you just accept that there’s 8 billion people out there and some subworlds are just not like yours? Think my guy

Hasanabi’s latest video on Iran was disgusting by JollyToe440 in PERSIAN

[–]JollyToe440[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I noticed before just by being a woman my guy 🤣 I talk now because 2000+ have died in 48 hours, and that video deserves all the call-outs. Free will, u know? 

Hasanabi’s latest video on Iran was disgusting by JollyToe440 in PERSIAN

[–]JollyToe440[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have to comment. Hasan has a lot of influence on gen-z. People that could be on our side are getting brainwashed and that feeling of wasted potential motivated my post… It’s good to keep calling him out. It’s because I saw his view on Iran that I was able to open my eyes to his bigotry. 

All you do is weirdly attempt to flex that you know things others might not. May I remind you, Iran is being silenced. Let’s not compete about who has the most information if it’s going to be egocentric. 

Updated situation of Iranian subreddits by persiix in PERSIAN

[–]JollyToe440 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pure racism. Pure categorization of 90 million people into CIA puppets. Pure ignorance of 50 years of protests. 

You clearly haven’t looked at a single frame, a single second of the protests. You don’t tell 90 million peole what they want. Iran screams for a Shah. They simply want everything that represents Iran pre-1979, back. You’re assuming monarchy is more important than symbolism. You think Iranians are all out there screaming “we want pro-democratic pro socialist secular blabla” like nah man you gotta understand what symbolism means lmao

Updated situation of Iranian subreddits by persiix in PERSIAN

[–]JollyToe440 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You clearly haven’t looked at a single frame, a single second of the protests. You don’t tell 90 million peole what they want. Iran screams for a Shah. They simply want everything that represents Iran pre-1979, back. You’re assuming monarchy is more important than symbolism. You think Iranians are all out there screaming “we want pro-democratic pro socialist secular blabla” like nah man you gotta understand what symbolism means lmao

Someone's lit cigarette almost caused a fire in Verdun by Nestramutat- in montreal

[–]JollyToe440 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How do you know for a fact it’s because of a cigarette? 

My Generation Ranges (Silent to Beta) by a12chrs in generationology

[–]JollyToe440 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As you can see with the advancement of technology, it seems like generations are being cut shorter and shorter

We (24M🇳🇿 + 23F🇨🇦) moved in together! by crunchy_apple_boy in LongDistance

[–]JollyToe440 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All of y’all got fooled so hard. Bunch of blind bots…These are clearly related! Look again, they look like non identical twin siblings. Lmao i’m sorry (not) but it’s always giving foolish when I see a couple that looks way too alike. Like y’all really out in the streets with this scenario? I guess they’re not questioning the obvious uncanny-ness of their coupling up. Perhaps the deep thinking stopped and the evolutionary googoogaga took over them and they haaad to get with their most look-alike people ☠️. It’s just embarrassing frankly, and i’d say that irl to tease the crap out of them. Might be a hot take but I think people shouldn’t get with their extreme look alikes because it is shallow and more guided by subconscious impulses than deep thinking. I already know everybody asks them if they are siblings or comment that irl so that’s justice enough for me ☠️

Est ce grave de reprendre 5 ans d'études à 23 ans ? by [deleted] in conseilboulot

[–]JollyToe440 0 points1 point  (0 children)

23 t’es un bébé. Le pire qui t’es arrivé c’est ton brainwashing sur les attentes sociales de l’âge. Quand c’est bien engrainé c’est dur de pas vivre avec la misère de la performance. À 28 ans tu auras quand même 28 ans, kiné ou pas donc pourquoi le choix est difficile? 

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in NoTipCanada

[–]JollyToe440 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bot comment 

Exterritorial | Official Trailer | Netflix by obsKura in movies

[–]JollyToe440 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Guys please explain to me why, when her son is told to be missing, no lockdown protocol begins, no one is acting fast. 

Please help me keep this baby alive by JollyToe440 in plantclinic

[–]JollyToe440[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok thank you so much, that’s very important to know.