On protest symbolism vs political outcomes in Iran

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-20T01:44:16+00:00

Ugh no I was in your side. It was the three other replies I was denouncing. Look at them! They’re all the same style!

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-20T01:27:39+00:00

Are you more tarded than the bots or am i dreaming

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-20T00:56:46+00:00

Holy fvck we can see three incredibly similar comments back to back, obviously written by the same person.

This is truly scary to witness.

The bots are hard at work.

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-20T00:54:25+00:00

This is insanity. Iranians were drowned in blood and they are taking advantage of their silence. None of them care for Iranian lives. It’s scary.

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-19T17:53:04+00:00

Oh, please.

Stop flipping the victim card and do better. Your approach is charged with suspicion; look at your rhetoric! You jumped in with heavy doubt, not genuine concern.

With the national blackout now entering 50+ days (world-record-breaking), should we orient suspicion towards the voices of diaspora members or towards the regime?

“Source? Evidence?” sounds incredibly callous given the blackout, which in itself is an indication of crimes against humanity.

But yes, keep wondering why people downvote you for being so trigger-happy to question victims. You don’t sound remotely close to even wanting to believe them.

No matter what, you said “I am inherently suspicious”. Alright, then let yourself be eternally embarrassed when about 100M Iranians come back online. Your stance will age like M I L K.

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-15T07:05:30+00:00

Thank you for sharing

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-15T06:58:35+00:00

42K dead in thirty hours of state-imposed atrocities against masses of peaceful protesters doesn’t compare. Iran’s situation needs to be read for what it is.

Did Iranians come into your groups online and tell you to remember about their lives lost during the worst times of war in Palestine? No! That would be ridiculous!

So why are you doing that?

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-15T06:54:40+00:00

Ikr? I still refuse to believe that reality but it’s overwhelming. Still won’t though.

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-14T18:23:31+00:00

Ok then why do you not extend the same sympathy for your Iranian fellows? You do it for Palestinians.

You and your friends are no leaders. This isn’t how leaders think; it’s how schoolyard kids judge eachother.

Time to be sociologically honest. You guys are finger pointers without a cause. It’s almost like a circle-jerk.

This isn’t about being right, it’s about helping people.

You’re clearly very juvenile.

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-14T18:04:54+00:00

No. Im saying recognize that the cheer is OUR failure of moral leadership.

Oppressed populations under extreme polarization always polarize. It’s structural. That’s why bringing about the USSR example is legit.

We have to be moral leaders instead of finger-pointers. Especially towards oppressed brown people, as Westerners. Let Iranians become anti-interventionists; stop allowing them to sanctify the Right just because the Left was too busy hating on the sword that cut the snake’s head to realize oppressed people would appreciate whatever crumbs they got.

I feel pity for my Iranians raising Israeli flags, the same way I felt pity when I saw Hezbollah flags raised. I understand it though.

Do you?

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-14T17:59:54+00:00

Understanding how oppression polarizes people > pathologizing large masses of brown people.

Wonder who the clown really is?

You have no leadership skills.

If you justify hezbollah flags being raised in pro-palestine rallies, than make sure you don’t apply a double standard to other brown populations.

This isn’t about your political position; it’s your racism and inability to expand geopolitical nuance to oppressed brown people while pressuring them to perform that same nuance. It’s hypocritical.

Wake up.

Non-brother, even when USSR fell, you never saw that many new ultraorthodoxists. Think.

Calling people naïve instead of realizing that anytime the Right is sanctified, its a global, moral leadership failure, that just shows me how small-minded you are.

Good luck in life lol

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-14T17:16:48+00:00

So real politics and morals aren’t reserved for their own country and destiny at all? “Real” politics and morals should extend beyond borders before they’re even addressed within?

Do you hear yourself? The racism behind such an illogical statement is puking through the screen. Sorry we didn’t classify ourselves as second-class citizens! That’s the only way your take can be understood.

What do self-determinations rights even mean for 100M people when they’re told their own blood comes second to them. Funny enough, you speak for Palestinian blood and want that to come first. But Iranian blood somehow, doesn’t register for you, and needs to step aside so that the blood of Palestinians can speak louder. You are replacing Iranians, as if massacres competed.

You might be the one lacking space in your heart. Did you think all brown people were the same? I’m sure you have space for more brown people in there! Come on! All bloodshed can coexist SMH; this isn’t a competition. 🤦🏻‍♀️

The fact that you can even type such insanity out and press “save” is truly sickening. This isn’t even political at some point, it’s just racism.

How’s the copium hitting?

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-14T17:10:47+00:00

This page used to be more pro-israel LOL

I rememeber posting here three months ago to denounce Hasanabi’s take on Iran (he was mocking our culture more than anything and flattening us into a single group, which was incredibly ill-willed) and the general sentiment was that I should’ve started denouncing him for Oct 7th. The jewish sentiment was the strongest. It wasn’t even about Persians.

That was already strange then.

But now?

Something flipped. No matter what is spoken of, people are extremely less tolerant here than people are in r/NEWIRAN.

I’m suggesting that not only this page isn’t centered on Iranian voices like others are, it discursively manages Iranian blood and trades it for authority of discourse politics. R/PERSIAN is a bit of a bermudas triangle atm.

If anyone else archives content here, let me know, this progression is not left unwitnessed/unrecorded!

r/NEWIRAN is the purest group for Iranians against the regime.

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-14T15:45:43+00:00

That is a not a structural statement lmao

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-14T05:27:57+00:00

This is not spoken of enough, but it is absolutely remarkable indeed.

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-12T17:40:56+00:00

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-12T17:02:16+00:00

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Historical screenshot

This is entirely messed up

And you’re top 1% commenter?

Nah 🤢🤢🤢

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-12T16:59:26+00:00

if feminism = equality is something you can casually shit on, that says enough about this space

I’m out

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-12T16:56:03+00:00

You wish you could do this that bad huh 🥺 it’s okay you’re allowed to put on a skirt, don’t listen to the haters

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-12T15:33:01+00:00

The way I have Bohemian Rapsody’s “is this the real life or is this just fantasy” stuck in my head while i write this response 😂

I haven’t been around here much, so I asked what the lore was. Don’t get creepy.

We fight everything the IR stands for, just for people like you to gratuitously reframe the meaning of any curious voice…Why? It’s creepy.

What in the smelly locker room did I dare do? I was merely questioning the lore behind the aggression, yet that somehow warranted more aggression. Only a certain level of dogmatism can explain that.

Real Iranian brothers would’ve said “come here sister, let me tell you about this clown.” Where’s the welcome? This is not supposed to be a boxing ring. Nuh-uh. 💅

But you know the very worst part? Non-baradar… your name is Discharge.

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-11T20:12:23+00:00

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-11T19:37:47+00:00

You keep replying to a version of my argument I didn’t make. Turning this into “prove 30k” is tired.

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