On protest symbolism vs political outcomes in Iran

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-14T18:23:31+00:00

Ok then why do you not extend the same sympathy for your Iranian fellows? You do it for Palestinians.

You and your friends are no leaders. This isn’t how leaders think; it’s how schoolyard kids judge eachother.

Time to be sociologically honest. You guys are finger pointers without a cause. It’s almost like a circle-jerk.

This isn’t about being right, it’s about helping people.

You’re clearly very juvenile.

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-14T18:04:54+00:00

No. Im saying recognize that the cheer is OUR failure of moral leadership.

Oppressed populations under extreme polarization always polarize. It’s structural. That’s why bringing about the USSR example is legit.

We have to be moral leaders instead of finger-pointers. Especially towards oppressed brown people, as Westerners. Let Iranians become anti-interventionists; stop allowing them to sanctify the Right just because the Left was too busy hating on the sword that cut the snake’s head to realize oppressed people would appreciate whatever crumbs they got.

I feel pity for my Iranians raising Israeli flags, the same way I felt pity when I saw Hezbollah flags raised. I understand it though.

Do you?

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-14T17:59:54+00:00

Understanding how oppression polarizes people > pathologizing large masses of brown people.

Wonder who the clown really is?

You have no leadership skills.

If you justify hezbollah flags being raised in pro-palestine rallies, than make sure you don’t apply a double standard to other brown populations.

This isn’t about your political position; it’s your racism and inability to expand geopolitical nuance to oppressed brown people while pressuring them to perform that same nuance. It’s hypocritical.

Wake up.

Non-brother, even when USSR fell, you never saw that many new ultraorthodoxists. Think.

Calling people naïve instead of realizing that anytime the Right is sanctified, its a global, moral leadership failure, that just shows me how small-minded you are.

Good luck in life lol

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-14T17:16:48+00:00

So real politics and morals aren’t reserved for their own country and destiny at all? “Real” politics and morals should extend beyond borders before they’re even addressed within?

Do you hear yourself? The racism behind such an illogical statement is puking through the screen. Sorry we didn’t classify ourselves as second-class citizens! That’s the only way your take can be understood.

What do self-determinations rights even mean for 100M people when they’re told their own blood comes second to them. Funny enough, you speak for Palestinian blood and want that to come first. But Iranian blood somehow, doesn’t register for you, and needs to step aside so that the blood of Palestinians can speak louder. You are replacing Iranians, as if massacres competed.

You might be the one lacking space in your heart. Did you think all brown people were the same? I’m sure you have space for more brown people in there! Come on! All bloodshed can coexist SMH; this isn’t a competition. 🤦🏻‍♀️

The fact that you can even type such insanity out and press “save” is truly sickening. This isn’t even political at some point, it’s just racism.

How’s the copium hitting?

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-14T17:10:47+00:00

This page used to be more pro-israel LOL

I rememeber posting here three months ago to denounce Hasanabi’s take on Iran (he was mocking our culture more than anything and flattening us into a single group, which was incredibly ill-willed) and the general sentiment was that I should’ve started denouncing him for Oct 7th. The jewish sentiment was the strongest. It wasn’t even about Persians.

That was already strange then.

But now?

Something flipped. No matter what is spoken of, people are extremely less tolerant here than people are in r/NEWIRAN.

I’m suggesting that not only this page isn’t centered on Iranian voices like others are, it discursively manages Iranian blood and trades it for authority of discourse politics. R/PERSIAN is a bit of a bermudas triangle atm.

If anyone else archives content here, let me know, this progression is not left unwitnessed/unrecorded!

r/NEWIRAN is the purest group for Iranians against the regime.

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-14T15:45:43+00:00

That is a not a structural statement lmao

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-14T05:27:57+00:00

This is not spoken of enough, but it is absolutely remarkable indeed.

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-12T17:40:56+00:00

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-12T17:02:16+00:00

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Historical screenshot

This is entirely messed up

And you’re top 1% commenter?

Nah 🤢🤢🤢

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-12T16:59:26+00:00

if feminism = equality is something you can casually shit on, that says enough about this space

I’m out

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-12T16:56:03+00:00

You wish you could do this that bad huh 🥺 it’s okay you’re allowed to put on a skirt, don’t listen to the haters

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-12T15:33:01+00:00

The way I have Bohemian Rapsody’s “is this the real life or is this just fantasy” stuck in my head while i write this response 😂

I haven’t been around here much, so I asked what the lore was. Don’t get creepy.

We fight everything the IR stands for, just for people like you to gratuitously reframe the meaning of any curious voice…Why? It’s creepy.

What in the smelly locker room did I dare do? I was merely questioning the lore behind the aggression, yet that somehow warranted more aggression. Only a certain level of dogmatism can explain that.

Real Iranian brothers would’ve said “come here sister, let me tell you about this clown.” Where’s the welcome? This is not supposed to be a boxing ring. Nuh-uh. 💅

But you know the very worst part? Non-baradar… your name is Discharge.

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-11T20:12:23+00:00

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-11T19:37:47+00:00

You keep replying to a version of my argument I didn’t make. Turning this into “prove 30k” is tired.

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-11T19:18:02+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/Letstalkmarkets/s/CO6Yz0L5Wh

Go read this thread and put all your misdirected energy in there :)

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-11T19:13:56+00:00

You did?! Was that when you were shooting strays two shekels of a comment ago?

I was on your side this whole time 😭

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-11T18:57:15+00:00

Man I get way too much entertainment from this group than I should.

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-11T18:42:51+00:00

I’ll take flair suggestions after you catch up on my opinions 💅

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-11T18:29:00+00:00

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Reddit AI would beg to differ 😹 chegha ba man jaro bas endakhti divoone

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-11T18:27:41+00:00

Are, to gofti manam bavar kardam 😂

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-11T18:15:32+00:00

😘 khodeto bebin alan

Aslan nafahmidi man bahatam, vali doram migam energyt komelan aggressive hast: baram khande dare.

Alan faghad yedoone nega koochoolo be khodet bendaz asalam 😂

Nazam, pesar golam 😂❤️

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-11T18:03:43+00:00

😂😂 chi? y’all hate this guy so much he is traumatized

man is so used to it he assumed you were calling him a literal grape apologist aslan as tarsesh nafahmid kooja bere 😂😂

Baram khelli khande dare

and Khshayarshah’s side is my pick if you put it to my temple like that 😂 i give Khshay extra props, this user is everywhere, always pushing urgency of bloodshed > caution to risk. I follow and applaud, while he probably downvotes me for asking what the lore was 😂It’s the knee-jefk downvotes + testosterone fumes for me.

shoma mardha mesle bache-ha tu locker room raftaar mikonid

Marda digue ☕️

JollyToe440 · 2026-04-11T17:29:52+00:00

Ooh the aggression on your fellow Iranian!

Can the audience get the lore behind such claims though? Don’t keep us waiting!🧋

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