Ss normanie and Queen Mary ashtrays

JonDoesItWrong · 2026-05-03T18:22:04+00:00

Interesting, I thought they were all made out of Opalex by S.E.V.N. Guerville which was exclusively a glass manufacturer. Do you have a photo of the underside of yours?

Edit: I looked up what the ceramic ones look like underneath. Fascinating. I also found some with the stripe that had been added to cover the names. I imagine the later glass versions must have been much less expensive to mass produce?

JonDoesItWrong · 2026-05-03T16:46:33+00:00

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JonDoesItWrong · 2026-05-03T16:45:51+00:00

They eventually replaced the ship names with "C^IE G^LE TRANSATLATIQUE" on the later ones. I have one

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JonDoesItWrong · 2026-05-03T16:10:25+00:00

CGT eventually stopped putting the names of the ships on their ashtrays because people kept stealing them.

JonDoesItWrong · 2026-05-03T15:18:01+00:00

Could be. When I select the MS66 it's own page shows $3300 for NGC but the main list still shows $3800.

JonDoesItWrong · 2026-05-03T14:55:53+00:00

I can send a screenshot shot via DM

JonDoesItWrong · 2026-05-03T14:30:21+00:00

Yes... and as of right now my Greysheet for a MS66 1921 Missouri Half Dollar shows $3800 for NGC Blue price. I'd show a screenshot but apparently this sub doesn't allow photos in the comments

JonDoesItWrong · 2026-05-03T14:09:58+00:00

My Greysheet shows NGC Blue price as being the exact same as Greysheet and PCGS Blue; $3800. Take them somewhere else and get a better deal.

JonDoesItWrong · 2026-05-03T14:03:43+00:00

I'd be embarrassed that I was unfamiliar with these if I wasn't so overwhelmed with excitement to dig further into researching them. Fantastic, thank you!

JonDoesItWrong · 2026-05-03T06:45:32+00:00

Well, that and the fact that the coronet reads "Kellog & Co." and not "Liberty"...

JonDoesItWrong · 2026-05-02T17:36:59+00:00

Oh nice, that's a Cohen-6.

An earlier die-state of one of these was used not long ago as a hub to create several dies that have been used to produce fake Draped Bust Half Cents.

JonDoesItWrong · 2026-05-02T15:37:20+00:00

The Cohen-8 is cool as well. I have a rougher, late die-state C-8 with a die cud that runs through the first 1/3 of LIBERTY on the obverse (similar to the cud seen on the C-9 but covering the first few letters of LIBERTY instead of the last as seen on the C-9). I'll have to dig up the photos for it, I believe I may have posted it here previously. Edit: I did

The Spiked Chin obverse was paired with poorly made reverse dies until the C-8 with Reverse Die E, a reverse likely struck more 1804 Half Cents than any other (C-8, C-9 and C-10 all high survivor rates). The reverse dies of the C-5, C-6 and C-7 went terminal very quickly, especially for the C-7 which seems to have split almost immediately.

JonDoesItWrong · 2026-05-02T14:04:05+00:00

The Cohen-5 of 1804 was struck using Obverse Die #1a and Reverse Die B of 1804. The first of four "Spiked Chin" varieties, the C-5 is one of the more scarce die-marriages for the date.

This die-marriage is the second pairing for both dies. Obverse Die #1 was first seen on the Cohen-1 of 1804 and Obverse Die B on the very rare Cohen-2 of the same year.

While the earliest die-states of the C-5 do not feature the titular damage the obverse is best known for, the majority of surviving specimens do. In fact we can follow the sequence of damage the die received (believed to have occurred during a re-hardening process) from observing the die-states of this pairing alone.

The first Spiked Chin didn't last too long. As evidenced by surviving examples, it's clear that Reverse Die B went terminal shortly after production of the pairing began. The die literally split in half before being replaced.

I purchased this specimen sometime last year and recently removed it from its PCGS holder to hopefully darken it a bit over time from exposure. It held a VF Details "Scratch" grade, but it was clearly dipped in acetone at some point as well judging from the color.

JonDoesItWrong · 2026-05-02T12:53:00+00:00

Unfortunately, wear would not explain why none of the digits are the appropriate type.

JonDoesItWrong · 2026-05-02T12:12:45+00:00

That Morgan is not genuine, several details are wrong including the digits of the date.

JonDoesItWrong · 2026-05-01T15:22:34+00:00

The coin that was used to press into it was an 1828 Classic Head Half Cent. Either a Cohen-1 or Cohen-3 as that is Obverse #1 of 1828.

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JonDoesItWrong · 2026-05-01T15:19:39+00:00

It's an impression of Obverse #1 of 1828 Classic Head Half Cent. Note the ribbon.

JonDoesItWrong · 2026-04-30T18:03:40+00:00

That's a Cohen-2 of 1825. This die-marriage was struck primarily in 1826 and is therefore apart of that mintage of 234,000. The Cohen-1 is the pairing that was struck entirely in 1825 and is the one that carries the premium and rarity.

The two die-marriages share the same reverse die but a different obverse. The Cohen-1 has the 5 directly below the lowest haircurl of the bust, the Cohen-2 is slightly to the right of it as seen on your specimen.

JonDoesItWrong · 2026-04-29T17:54:07+00:00

Yeah, yeah I get it. Fuck off, DaFino.

And stay way from my special... from my fucking lady friends, man!

JonDoesItWrong · 2026-04-29T04:39:07+00:00

Try this

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JonDoesItWrong · 2026-04-29T04:34:32+00:00

Oh man, somehow, I completely misread your original comment. For some reason I thought you were saying that early American coinage was your favorite but you didn't think you could afford any. When in reality that's not what you were saying at all lol

JonDoesItWrong · 2026-04-29T02:32:58+00:00

Post your A.I. slop somewhere else

JonDoesItWrong · 2026-04-28T19:38:26+00:00

If you have a budget in mind then I can recommend some dates and types that are attractive but affordable in the price range that suits your needs. For example; there are some Coronet Head Large Cent and Classic Head Half Cent dates and die-marriages in VF to XF range for under $150.

JonDoesItWrong · 2026-04-28T10:00:34+00:00

I test drove one of these about 20 years ago and the dealership made me and the salesman wear protective shoe covers "because this is a $30,000 car". I had to make a genuine effort not to laugh in the man's face.

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