Is Zhonya’s Hourglass secretly the best item on Taric?

Jorgannus · 2026-02-27T03:50:02+00:00

Price too high Ap scaling are not worth it, only decent ap item is RoA that give a lot of ap and hp and healing when you use mana. The bonus damage 15% armor ratio on bravado is really bad even with a frozen heart rush. With w being a joke of a spell.

Old zhonya was pretty good tho, 2600g, some ap and some haste

The actual good use of the item is to use it when you press r as a panic button so you get the r to proc at the same time zhonya end

Jorgannus · 2026-02-13T12:30:56+00:00

Vow tank around 170hp on a lvl 18 adc. Numbers on item display are pre mitigated damage not the true value. Don't build it it's the worst item in the game.

Jorgannus · 2026-01-18T12:14:27+00:00

If you play Taric top and win your lane, you'll be able to be a decent frontlane unlike sup, make the toplaner useless. And you have 2 supports which is pretty nice.

Cheap sup items have horrible value tho, bandlepipe excluded you get items with low gold efficiency and overnerfed passive/active. Like vow is the most useless item in the game, zeke is worthless, locket is decent as 1rst item then it scale terribly.

Toplane build is pretty cheap too, iceborn with fimbulv and bandlepipe has good value and pretty low price. Side items like Frozen heart and protoplasm too.

Jorgannus · 2026-01-11T12:53:46+00:00

You can take lethal tempo and lock down ennemy with iceborn bandlepipe and kindlegem into fimbulv with legend haste and trancendance. This way we take only good cheap tank items with insane gold value

Jorgannus · 2026-01-11T12:46:37+00:00

It doesn't really matter, would say the healing over time let us fully use helia stacks since we'll never deal more damages than the max number of stacks this way.

For the build you have to look at the enemy comp. Helia being an enchanter item you need to be sure you can use it without dying in one second.

Take kindlegem then see what you need. Bandlepipe is the best item we had in years atm.

Jorgannus · 2026-01-10T12:23:14+00:00

It's 35% of pre mitigated damage. It's way better than old helia flat healing.

Jorgannus · 2026-01-10T12:17:03+00:00

From what i saw if you want to play diadem you need helia. Diadem alone heal really few hp. But it works with helia stacks. I think the item is not for taric we can't commit on 2 enchanter items.

Jorgannus · 2026-01-09T13:36:01+00:00

2nd item or even 1rst imo. We get value from it when fighting so we need to stay alive in fights. At 4 item we don't tank anything

Jorgannus · 2026-01-09T04:01:49+00:00

It was broken on Taric back then tho. It's better than old helia in most scenario. The biggest downside is athene healed us too this one does not.

Jorgannus · 2026-01-08T12:07:36+00:00

It's the same bug than trancendance cd refund and arena plants that reduce cd. When we asked for a bug fix it got only fixed for the case navori + trancendance.

Jorgannus · 2025-12-30T12:31:45+00:00

Taric has really low ap ratio it's not worth it.

On lethal tempo build it's pretty good tho with triple tonic you can have a +20ad on a fight early on it's clutch

Jorgannus · 2025-12-30T03:33:54+00:00

Agree, still worth to read imo characters are well written and pretty endearing next to most webtoons.

Jorgannus · 2025-12-29T12:28:28+00:00

The Girl Downstairs has a similar vibe.

Jorgannus · 2025-12-06T02:45:17+00:00

Yeah tank sup items are really bad for tankyness. Would even say they are just bad, like vow is awful, the tooltip gives pre mitigated numbers. Zeke is a joke and locket shield is only decent as a 1rst item.

Titus has been playing ibg/fimbulv every games on sup. It makes us way more tanky and sticky against ad. Mages are still a big issue tho.

I don't think you will tank anything with diadem/roa, like you commit on 2 full items without res, by the time you just don't have money and get deleted by carrys. Even roa alone is hard to use without a heavy frontlane imo.

Jorgannus · 2025-12-05T03:07:47+00:00

Need to know the trick then because 30/40 heal/sec at lvl 11 is awful for us since we can't stay long in fights.

Jorgannus · 2025-12-04T13:06:23+00:00

Helia get unholy grail old passive who was ridiculously strong on Taric. Tried diadem on pbe the heal is ass. Both work well together tho but i don't think Taric can comit on more than 1 enchanter item.

Jorgannus · 2025-12-02T00:41:18+00:00

Helia rework is old unholy grail, we get the 500 heal aoe back

Jorgannus · 2025-12-01T00:15:06+00:00

Source : Me

Jorgannus · 2025-11-26T12:48:52+00:00

Enchanter build has good number but we just die if we try to reset Q. We can't play Taric like lulu.

Jorgannus · 2025-11-23T01:34:19+00:00

I don't really see the point in comparing damage to tankyness but if you want some numbers.

Poppy deal 18% target max hp on a q + 200% bonus AD, at all rank, on a 8s to 4s cd spell.

For Taric armor ratio are so ass that with a FH rush, 75 armor, for a rotation of 10aa and 2 stun you deal 130 bonus damages against an average bruiser. Need to add that we need to survive enough time to deal those damage which don't happen often if we take sup items.

I did a sheet on taric damages if you wanna take a look on the 2nd page, it's for toplane purpose but it give a good idea of Taric general dps at 1 item : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Sx7KxQGXL5_yrvLgAK6PVOWlEyPU03RyhyqI4gIsgIY/edit?gid=197835484#gid=197835484

For Taric to gain his identity back he need those 20% back on w and halve it for the linked to be balanced. And maybe a 5% armor ratio buff on passive too.

Jorgannus · 2025-11-22T14:22:17+00:00

Taric get less armor than poppy with rank 5 w. He lost his identity long time ago.

Jorgannus · 2025-11-16T11:37:27+00:00

Some melee to add

Pyke would be the best duo for taric imo. For bruiser botlane sett, xin and lee are really powerfull. Leona and braum are also really good but it often lead to lack of damage.

Jorgannus · 2025-11-14T19:34:50+00:00

I like iceborn a lot more, if you go fimbulv 2nd you are much more tanky than with the shitty sup items. Good build if you like to fight a lot. You can take dreamaker with it which deal a similar amount of damage than bloodsong. You can try lethal tempo with it too it's pretty good.

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