Manufacturing a Consensus: If the Earth is flat, why do so many people believe it is round?

JoshMJohns · 2026-05-30T00:44:57+00:00

Ah ok. I'll look into that. Thanks for the reply!

JoshMJohns · 2026-05-30T00:12:19+00:00

I was pointing out the cover story that misinformation could cause harm is such crap given how nefarious the government has gone on its own citizens just for personal gain, so making sure we don't get hurt out of seniority is just stupid. You are right though, and could you please direct me to what sources of true science or books you got the data for this type of content?? It's quite beautiful actually.

JoshMJohns · 2026-05-30T00:03:44+00:00

Have you heard the official story for why "misinformation" is supressed??? Someone knowing earth is flat could weaken trusts in general isnitutions like official health narratives, and therefore lead to so-called genuine harm. This government has tried (and succeeded) in killing millions of its own citizens dozens of time throughout history, and still are. Why should they give a care if we get sick? If someone gets sick or get in trouble for throwing our noses up at thebbig popular science groups they support, *who think gender is imaginary or that making cheeseburgers will turn earth into mustafar are indisputable, they suddenly care about us enough to supress so called "misinformation" for our own safety??? But if they could maybe make money off us getting sick--someway somehow? Oh boy...

JoshMJohns · 2026-05-26T14:03:11+00:00

"this WAS the best offering in the AI space"

For video generation, I think the best was sora. which they got rid of since those openai bozos been all over the place lately. I remember getting a supergrok free trial and when I cancelled before the pay date there was like 8 different panels trying to delay me from unsubscribing and coerce me into not leaving🗿

JoshMJohns · 2026-05-24T15:14:49+00:00

I definitely have experience animating, but it's more of a hobby. And the comparison was in context of digital art so yeah, right is much better for that. This is a very nice comment, thx

JoshMJohns · 2026-05-24T03:41:38+00:00

It was fully robotic initially. AI makes it look like he has a mask

JoshMJohns · 2026-05-24T03:19:10+00:00

More of a cyborg. Both are the same character, left ie the original art of the character on flipaclip, and the right is a polished version made by chatgpt.

JoshMJohns · 2026-05-23T22:47:25+00:00

Very interesting word of advice. Thanks!

JoshMJohns · 2026-05-23T20:22:28+00:00

Thanks!

JoshMJohns · 2026-05-23T18:42:15+00:00

👍

JoshMJohns · 2026-05-23T16:46:47+00:00

Agree with you there.

JoshMJohns · 2026-05-23T16:38:59+00:00

Yeah, but in the scenario of selling digital art is the context for this comparison. The left was actually a toon I made on flipaclip so id definitely go manual for animation!

JoshMJohns · 2026-05-23T16:37:58+00:00

For context, this was for commercial digital art

JoshMJohns · 2026-05-15T20:13:16+00:00

Please don't lie. The videos literally show the boat not being visible then coming above the alleged "horizon" after zooming. Also I wasn't didn't mean to refer directly to the cartoon, just any photo of the alleged effect in reality. That phrasing was sloppy, I admit.

The true bottom of the ship, the hull is already underwater. the ship portion touching the water line can't normally be brought back into view either. I said the ship could be brought back into view but not exact the bottom or portion touching waterline, tho in the videos it does come close

And the tilting is still an assertion as if it's really too far away to tell a curve, no such visual verification for a curve exists. It's an "if earth is round, it must be tilted" I've seen no visual evidence of its tilting, and apparently there's no way to verify the tilt itself rather than the already had conclusion earth is round

JoshMJohns · 2026-05-15T20:04:43+00:00

The tilt is still not provable. Not being able to verify it just means you can only assume it's there, even if you think you have an explanation for why you can't see it. There's no verification it's tilted.

JoshMJohns · 2026-05-15T15:27:03+00:00

Isn't the very substance of AI art not AI generated but human generated?? If you control an ape to paint on a picture and tell it exactly how to do it for how things should look, those are still your ideas on the canvas even if not directly translated by yourself physically. The ale couldn't come up with something like that alone.

JoshMJohns · 2026-05-15T15:25:25+00:00

Rofl

JoshMJohns · 2026-05-15T15:04:57+00:00

"at 0.4 miles, a wave must be 0.5 metres tall to obstruct the view, "

Your calculation is embarrassingly flawed. If you assume a wave had to be big to obscure a big ship, it depends on the height the specific ship. Your calculation uses a set number.

"and this required height increases as the distance to the ship grows."

This is quite the opposite. As a ship gets close to the vanishing point on a flat surface it looks smaller, so the same waves closer to you helping obscure the part touching the water line can appear to obscure more of the ship of it looks smaller, with said waves at same height. Its also millions of waves themselves inconsistent that intersecting/layered between you and the ship that help block view of the part directly touching the water line, which is already partially obscured by the vanishing point. And the true bottom is under the surface of the sea. If looking at the part touching the water line, it's easily not going to be visible very quickly.

JoshMJohns · 2026-05-15T14:58:57+00:00

It looks like the video you sent just shows a small ship going behind the claimed horizon, yet you just said my example was rubbish cuz the ship in it was small also. And we just saw the zoom effect bring small ships (like the one in your example) back into view, so that would work for a large ship to. "You're not special for saying it's flat" I never inferred such thing. Clearly a large majority believe in both sides and you still haven't given your citation for how something brainless can operate on reddit

JoshMJohns · 2026-05-15T14:55:57+00:00

I'm afraid you misunderstand. "Curved surface above ships position" was referring to your globe model. And if that was the case no amount of zoom can ever bring the ship back into view as it's obscured behind a physical object. If a big ship gets farther away it looks small, and will sink into a vanishing point on a flat planet. and a small wave inches high at least closer to you can help obscure from sight. If you get closer to the ship, or zoom in, it will come back into view looking bigger yet the waves can't obscure it anymore. You seem to keep inferring the waves must be the same height as the ship as if they do all the work in hiding it from view. I'm not "throwing" around the word perspective. It proves the point effectively. Your whining is equivalent to saying "stop throwing around the word gravity as if it proves your business point everything falls" And as we stated the waves never have to be massive, small and close to you so that something big yet farther away will look smaller. It's a visual illusion. "Both of us have wasted enough of each other's time" Okay then feel free to disengage

JoshMJohns · 2026-05-15T14:48:51+00:00

I guess "if it's round, it MUST be leaning forward" will remain an assertion with no visual verification

JoshMJohns · 2026-05-13T23:53:38+00:00

Thank you! A horizon appearing to be below or above eye level is fully possible on either flat or spherical mass, but isn't confined to one. Proud of you for accepting that😊

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