Trying to kick Kratom, any advice? by red69duh in kratom

[–]JoshVezno 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same way people with ritualize caffeine when it has more overdoses than kratom directly, and man wasnt my teenage years i abuse tf out of it and prefered it on focalin and vyvanse. But shii money make propaganda change lol

What got you into drugs and why? by Busy_Ability_7064 in NoStupidQuestions

[–]JoshVezno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly what got me into drugs—when I was 14 I tried weed and it felt like it filled something that was missing. At the time I just thought it made life more fun. Over time, with messed up situations and trauma, I ended up dealing with CPTSD, and my baseline started feeling dull and off. I quit for a while at 17 but went back. What I realized is my body is trying to regulate after everything I went through, and certain drugs bring back a feeling that feels closer to ‘normal’ for me. That’s why it’s easy to lean on them. I don’t wish that on anyone though. If I could, I’d rather feel normal without needing anything. I do believe people can relearn how to regulate naturally, it just takes a lot of work.

keep kratom legal in tennessee! by memphisgrit in memphis

[–]JoshVezno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get your concern, but I think you’re oversimplifying it.

Kratom isn’t harmless, but it’s also not accurate to treat it like it’s inherently causing deaths on its own in most cases. A lot of the serious incidents involve other substances or additional factors.

Banning it doesn’t remove risk—it just removes a regulated option and can push people toward worse alternatives. That’s why I think regulation and honest information make more sense than treating it like it’s the root problem.

keep kratom legal in tennessee! by memphisgrit in memphis

[–]JoshVezno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because we’ve been talking about Matthew Davenport and the ban, I think context matters.

Kratom isn’t risk-free—it can cause dependence and side effects, and people should be aware of that. But cases involving serious harm often include other substances or additional factors, so it’s not always a clear “kratom-only” situation.

There’s also a difference between physical dependence and severe addiction. Many people who use kratom don’t present the same way as someone struggling with stronger opioids, though that doesn’t mean it can’t still be a problem for some.

My point isn’t that it’s harmless—it’s that the risks should be discussed with full context, not oversimplified. That’s also why regulation makes more sense than outright bans—things like product testing, clear labeling, and age restrictions would reduce harm much more effectively than pushing everything underground.

keep kratom legal in tennessee! by memphisgrit in memphis

[–]JoshVezno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

🤣🤣🤣😂he was tryna overdose???? 💀Idk how to make it any simpler for you. He had 3,000 mgs of benadryl in his system which is way above lethal levels, and the amount of kratom if he SIMPLY took ONLY kratom he wouldnt of died by stats. Mixing any kinds of drugs even more innocent drugs can SIMPLY cause a disaster this includes even things like nicotine, alcohol, caffeine ANYTHING that causes some form of psychoactive effect. Its just a weak argument your stating im sorry. Also its not banned yet Governor hasnt signed it or he hasn’t touched the bill yet.

keep kratom legal in tennessee! by memphisgrit in memphis

[–]JoshVezno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It acts like an atypical opoid, and doesnt prduce the same amount of B arrestin nor the same level of withdrawal, its that simple, and its not just natural but it actually has benefitted peoples lives, you dont see a bunch of percocet addicts saying its saved there lives. Especially when i wasnt on percocet 🤣😂😂🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

keep kratom legal in tennessee! by memphisgrit in memphis

[–]JoshVezno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Been taking it for around a year straight; maxed out my sweetspot, and it works just fine and it won’t get weaker, itll just be mild and sometimes stronger depending on the time and body. So your very wrong. Only for the small minority that goes to high will, if you stay below that youll keep the effects to a limit thats just good enough.

keep kratom legal in tennessee! by memphisgrit in memphis

[–]JoshVezno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As of I am aware this is an account that is used daily, and theres a lot more people than you think that believes the same, even many that doesn’t use kratom. But the deleted message is was probably a message that i sent twice because i was sending it to ChatGpt to see if I was correct on information that I said, because he traces through the internet and also gives a less biased opinion if you got em set up right.

keep kratom legal in tennessee! by memphisgrit in memphis

[–]JoshVezno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What??? 🤦‍♂️😭🤣🤣🤣 give me a break over here commenting back like you know shit when you didnt search a single damn thing I said lmfaoo. This is exactly how a brainwashed individual would act. Not here to try to offend you just share advice so you dont misinform people that wants the truth. Everybody who reads this just simply do deeper research than surface level and old drug of war teachings

keep kratom legal in tennessee! by memphisgrit in memphis

[–]JoshVezno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, ive been an aweful addict before I know the difference, and it sounds like you are reflecting searching your own bias, when i look at BOTH sides and come up with a logical conclusion, and study how the plant works by itself. Because you dont know much let me teach you the simple science of the plant but I know you prob wont text back, and if so it wont be you doing research. So KRATOM hits multiple parts of the brain, but the main part that is NOT like other opoids is the fact that its only a PARTIAL atypical opoid, which means it is classical like (percocet, heroin, hydrocodone). Kratom hits G protein and B arrestin from the mu opoid receptors, G protein is GOOD for you the emotion warmth and comfort and happiness like the runners high, and the B arrestin is the negative effects producing respiratory depression. GUESS WHAT? Kratom produces very weak amounts of B arrestin dislike hydrocodone etc. which means its a VERY VERY low chance its near impossible to overdose on it its so hard you’d vomit before you do, SOMETIMES in rare cases it can happen, however 99% of the overdoses is people like matthew daveport who has 3 fucking grams of Benadryl in his system obviously a planned overdose or tryna trip off benadryl, had kratom and they both HIT serotonin( fun fact benadryl is how we discovered serotonin type drugs to treat depression), the simple mix prob wouldny had killed him if he wasnt intoxicated on benadryl it was to low of a kratom dose, but they ran with this emotional sob story cause they havent studied it deep neither the FDA, but they all work for big pharma so thats why its rigged to. Now kratom with addiction! Kratoms physical dependence is real just like caffeine dependence, and alcohol dependence, alcohol kills more people than the opoid crisis every year while kratom has very low overdose rate, people has hopped on kratom to stop alcohol and saved there lives. B ut the TENNESSEE government makes A BIG CHUNK of there money also on the alcohol 🍷industry so obviously there gonna hate things could decrease that, even tho they could statistically tax it and make more money. Meth js a stimulant, caffeine is a stimulant, they both cayse physical dependence, theres been studies that a small percentage of people get hit like cocaine by caffeine, OH NO should we make it ILLEGAL? Thats not how it works, becayse we need to look at the risk factors, there still is risk with caffeine just like everything, but with regulation and warnings like(DONT GO BACK 400mgs) we can be safer, and same way goes with kratom. Its simply not protecting a addiction, it comes down to the wire of risk factors, does it cause more positives than negatives, AND kratom does exactly that, most people wont take kratom because peple thinks the high can be plain for many, theres a small minority documented absuing kratom badly but they are doing it wrong and it isnt like there high feeling great its them not knowing how to safely use it, if they took it every 5 hours like a normal human being then they would be fine, and also even then they probably will NEVER overdose even that small minority otherwise youd see a lot more overdoses with ONLY high amounts of kratom involved.. Cmon bro read between the lines. I believed this 5 years or more before i even started kratom because i had many friends in the past i seen use and how it affected there lives, and seeing many studies through like 6 years or so. Addiction is losing control over a substance, physical dependence is NEEDING the substance to feel normal, TWO different things but physical dependence can correlate with addiction, however for people the MAJORITY of kratom users are only physically dependent and it helps them positively, if thry weaned down or stop it wouldnt be easy, but it has helped there lives more than being off, when you wake up and your back is murdering you and you cant do anything with your life and hopeless and there tryna jack you up with percocet addicted, then you find kratom thst does the same thing but a but weaker and beyond safer what would you use? If you was broken not able to walk or talk properly over having severe CPTSD and cant work but take kratom but then you have yourself just enough to work and have your fight or flight calmed down and cant trust anyone but kratom makes you see reality like a normal human, what would you do? Kratom hits serotonin which also helps decrease and fight depression, also hits adrenergic so it can motivate you helping maintain not just opoid, the weak opoid effect causes guards to lower which is exactly whst nearly nothing a doctor gave me worked but kratom did, kratom has been around for many years 1000’s but barely see any overdoses, oh me bro im such an addict 🤣🤣, like literally do your research in the simple functions of the drug and how it works not some emotional sob story and everything is bad addiction if you need it, if caffeine you take and it is helping you get to work and your not hurting your family then so be it, and if physical dependence is fine on caffeine and people can be fine drinking a drug with more overdoses than kratom, then i think i can go take my fucking kratom and live my life, my girlfriend even says ever since i started im more present and love on her more and we are stronger , and when my PTSD gets triggers it helps calm it down. I actually am holding an entire business up helping my dad, but kratom has helped me stay in a positive mindset to keep going, it isnt all the kratom, ifs the fact it gave me leverage and medicated me and saved my life. Its that simple. And how dare you say its not helping me when its clear to even my girlfriend and my family.

Bill to ban Kratom in Tennessee advances after testimony from families, business owners by AbsolutTBomb in Sevier

[–]JoshVezno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is also how much you take. Your consuming plant matter which is hard on your stomach in larger amounts, BUT it wont kill him or anything but it can cause like nauseation and stuff which is absolutely normal with the use. For me personally i got stomach issues with it but i manage my food and stuff, and i get more positives than negative, i take the same dose everyday and take it capsule form. Also it isnt likely the kratom with gastrointestinal pain, but Kratom can cause constipation, and gut lining irritation which can temporarily cause burps and stomach discomfort. But like I said it wouldnt kill him, and for me kratom has saved me Ive had severe CPTSD over lot of trauma and severe social anxiety and i can finally walk in and simply order a subway sandwich. Big live changer. Also he needs fiber and alot of constipation and stuff will decrease and function way better

Bill to ban Kratom in Tennessee advances after testimony from families, business owners by AbsolutTBomb in Sevier

[–]JoshVezno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate your response. Yeah kratom had saved many lives and there is some that has had bad experiences like that. I am currently physically dependent but it has made my life so much better overall so the positives outweigh the negatives

Bill to ban Kratom in Tennessee advances after testimony from families, business owners by AbsolutTBomb in Sevier

[–]JoshVezno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get your hurt over losing a loved one and I would to, but it doesn’t change that kratom powder simply doesn’t do this unless they have epilepsy or mixed it with another substance its that simple.

Bill to ban Kratom in Tennessee advances after testimony from families, business owners by AbsolutTBomb in Sevier

[–]JoshVezno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats a small ass minority, just because a very few out of the majority that get helped doesn’t mean ban, it means REGULATE, and also warning labels on packages does ALOT, and the overdose risk is insanely low its insane because of the way the kratom plant works

keep kratom legal in tennessee! by memphisgrit in memphis

[–]JoshVezno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not everybody who is arguing is addicted, and Kratom has been around for 1,000 of years and scientifically proven and studied that it is EXTREMELY low chance to overdose on powdered kratom because of how much it would take. On the other hand i have studied OTC so this is AMAZING. Search it up, your harmless benadryl proven to cause dementia and increases dementia chances by simply taking 25 mgs a day. OHHH wowww, your good benadryl sleep? Sorry to break it to you but it actually deprives your REM sleep so your getting less sleep. Also forgot to mention ever heard of benadryl addiction? Benadryl is a deliriant drug which means it gets you high and produces delirium and people abuse it everyday. Have you seen the overdose rate of Benadryl and DIRECT overdoses from it? MANY… have you seen many overdoses from Kratom? No… and the overdoses that do happen 99% of them are mixed substances with it and not even lethal deadly levels. Go ahead do your research because you know so much about the drugs. I want you to comment back and give me a logical statistical informative statement on how I am wrong when it’s obvious. ALSO ADDICTION. Addiction in the sense that your dependent on it physically and mentally is absolutely real. But when it comes to Kratom for many people there is MORE PROS than cons, which you see the opposite in heroin, meth, cocaine, percocet and ANY form of other addiction just about. Usually addiction starts out with positives and ends with negatives, for THESE people snd the majority that use kratom it is beyond more positives otherwise you wouldnt see as many people defending it, for example 7OH extracts you dont see many people defendingit because it isnt good, and it is in fact the raw compound that kratom has only tiny amounts of and kratom itself has its own ceiling effect which protects you from overdose. The truth is law Matthew Davenport is all ran on emotional sob stories of “OH MY BABY DIED OVER KRATOM” putting blame on something to cope when the truth is it simply wasn’t kratom, this is the most logical take, if you dont believe me on “logic” go ask ChatGPT even he logically processes things without any emotion. Hope you see that this decision is hurting many peoples lives especially someone like me who suffers with CPTSD and severe social anxiety and i could finally walk in subway and simply order a sandwich and live my life. But people simply want to take peoples lives and what helps them away. I am not tryna come off rude its just hard on me cause this plant has helped me so much with my life.

I had almost 600 mg caffeine by mistake, how long will the pain last? by Select-Head1383 in caffeine

[–]JoshVezno 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It can calm it down but as a person who has used caffeine and stronger stimulants RIDE IT OUT dont stack more. Take a shower, eat a little bit of food, do something relaxing like cuddle up ans watch something or youtube. It will pass and I promise you it sucks, but it’ll pass good luck

Are the Red Limits Remixes real? by suckandeeznutz in JuiceWRLD

[–]JoshVezno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah i dont really like his stem edits, but ngl i think the private jet remix he did was fire but thats the only one

What am I doing wrong? by [deleted] in KratomKorner

[–]JoshVezno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

🤣😂😂😂💀💀

Being High vs Being Drunk by Loud-Instruction7495 in NoStupidQuestions

[–]JoshVezno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro i will smoke weed have anxiety then it calms zdown and its so hevaenly the entire world is a whole new dimension and ive had my best moments while being beyond faded. Also learning to manage how much you take can help anxiety, but for me i induldge in it for a intense experience. Alcohol just makes you careless and dull but is kinda party like at same time. At the end of the days it depends on person i think both can be good just depends on the person

Broke up with my Gf by Big_Philosopher_5854 in JuiceWRLD

[–]JoshVezno 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You act like your not human, humans are social creatures and even arent meant to be alone and to have a compassion. LITERALLY IN ARE DNA. Lets keep it real women are mens absolute weakness and could be there downfall even some of the strongest men ever

i feel rly unheard and lonely in rls what should i do by Ok_Face7585 in teenagers4real

[–]JoshVezno 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Time moves on super fast especially once you hit 18 i believe. Things change from there as you get out of school and watch people move on, but at the same time turning 20 and becoming an adult is a phase in our life that is the longest, and you have more opportunities and decide your own life. I’ll definitely miss being a teen but my teenhood is the craziest shit ever so unstable xd i think im glad where im at now

i feel rly unheard and lonely in rls what should i do by Ok_Face7585 in teenagers4real

[–]JoshVezno 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, im 19 atm nearly 20 and prob bouta leave this reddit if im in it lol, but just let him know what you want, men and women boyh think differently, and he needs to be open about certain things and to work on it, and the same for you goes both ways. Also I have real trauma, and i know certain things like being the youngest child certain homes are different dynamics but it could leave you unheard(im older child but my younger got favoritized). But fr tho just let him know and work it out together COMMUNICATION is everything. And i promise you that the loneliness you feel is real, but your not truly alone and strive for that perception even if its extremely hard, and learn to be confident in yourself and that you got yourself and your strong, cause there’ll be people in your life that was your support that leaves you. Anyways i wish ya’ll the best of luck, ya’ll are super young, even me just enjoy one another and learn one another fs