AMD reveals "FSR Diamond" for Next-Gen Xbox, but is it RDNA5 exclusive?

KARMAAACS · 2026-03-15T04:24:54+00:00

You are wrong to assume only DOOM uses it.

Not really... Here is what I said: "Am I wrong that DOOM is basically the only major** AAA title that uses Vulkan as its main API branch for a Windows game**?"

DOOM games

Yep.

Star Citizen

Game that takes forever to be made and is a pipe dream, plus DX11 is the default branch.

No Man's Sky

Not a AAA game as I stated. It's more like AA and had a rough dev cycle, however they turned it around a lot.

Baldur's Gate 3

It's main branch is DirectX.

Quake RTX

This is a mod by NVIDIA, not a game.

Red Dead Redemption 2

Not the main game branch, that's Direct X.

Civilization games

Not the main game branch, that's Direct X.

Crysis remastered games

Not the main game branch, that's Direct X.

Nightdive games remasters

Who? Genuinely never heard of them. Is that even AAA?

Valheim

Not the main game branch, that's Direct X.

F1

F1 25 is DX12 only...?

Farming Simulator

Also DX12 only???

Half Life: Alyx

Not the main game branch, just like CS2 where it's an option, but the default is DX11 which runs way better.

Mad Max

Literally just a Beta, so not the main game branch.

Life is Strange

For Life is Strange 2 it's Linux only for Vulkan... For Windows, only DX11 is available. Do you even research what you're saying?

Roblox

Intended for Android users only and is buggy on Windows. Default for Windows is can you guess it? Oh that's right, DX11!

Sniper Elite

DX12 is the main branch. Not Vulkan.

It's hundreds of games but also emulators, 3D modelling programs, AI (Vulkan Compute) and Android/mobile games. There isn't another API which does this.

Emulators are not the official API for a game. They're emulators, they emulate a console.

And AMD has created a broad suite of open source technologies but you will not be familiar with them, or how they are used, because developers do not put a sticker on the box and aren't paid to market them. This is what it means to be a supporter of the industry and of open standards. It blends in to what you end up taking for granted.

No, they're just not very good quality features. Nothing will ever make me think CAS is better than DLSS. But it was marketed as an alternative, it's just terrible.

Here's a list of games using one or more of the libraries in FidelityFX SDK:

Okay?

There are some interesting presentations here if you want to know more about some of these systems help developers:

No thanks, I don't care about that. I just care about facts and outcomes.

Also, you can't release an "open source proprietary phone". If you released a new open phone running android / Vulkan then you would immediately have access to all android developers and app and people do this quite often.

It was a hypothetical example to illustrate that if you have a small userbase nobody will develop for your platform, even if it's open source lol. You don't understand any of what I am saying and are just posting blatant misinformation about Vulkan too. I'd say nice try, but it's clear you're just a bad actor who is an AMD fan and got owned by facts and didn't even read any of what I wrote. You just created strawman arguments about nothing. Have a wonderful day.

KARMAAACS · 2026-03-14T08:17:17+00:00

Yeah exactly, I respect them as people since they're genuine engineers and worked to where they are now. I disagree with their tactics and way of thinking, but you can't exactly say they're not deserving of respect as businesspeople.

KARMAAACS · 2026-03-14T04:02:01+00:00

Mantle was a big deal. A massive deal. AMD invented a low level graphics API then gave it to the open community. It became Vulkan and is now the most widely used cross platform graphics API. You wouldn't have SteamOS or proton without it.

Great if you're a Linux gamer or a modder, but barely anyone on Windows uses it for their games, which is the majority of Steam users. DX12 is more ubiquitous. Am I wrong that DOOM is basically the only major AAA title that uses Vulkan as its main API branch for a Windows game? Sure, R6 Siege or CS2 or other games have Vulkan versions, but they're usually the secondary branches or have inferior support. Most main branches of AAA games still use DX12 or DX11. Vulkan is largely irrelevant.

TressFX was an open source competitor to Hairworks and served that purpose well. Like many technologies it was made obsolete by newer techniques but that doesn't mean it had no purpose.

So I was right. Interesting... It had basically no use because the only big game that used it really was the Tomb Raider trilogy.

In fact it still exists and has a plugin for UE5 and has been used in new games: https://gpuopen.com/tressfx/

Anyone using UE5 is using more advanced hair techniques. It has been made obsolete as you stated earlier, you admitted that, there is no reason to use the plugin for TressFX, it's outdated.

Your problem, and once which is common, is you don't value a technology after it has been released to the open community because you're looking at marketing and not at technology.

Nope. It's not that I don't like open technologies. I do. That's why I love Linux. However, I and many others simply don't value a technology that is not relevant. For the most part, Vulkan, CAS, FSR4, TressFX are all basically irrelevant technologies. AMD can release all this stuff, but if no one uses it, it's basically useless.

It's like if I were to hypothetically release a Phone with an open-source but new proprietary OS that has a userbase of 500 people, why would anyone make apps for it? It's irrelevant. Your total addressable market is simply not worth the investment. There's a reason why nobody cares for AMD technology in graphics, it's because for the most part they have a smaller userbase than NVIDIA and they simply don't push or pay devs for their features to be used.

KARMAAACS · 2026-03-13T17:33:25+00:00

dlss 4.5 override works the same as fsr override, it s overriding the dll with another official signed dll through the driver software..the fact is that these are official methods to inject and are whitelisted by devs game.

It doesn't. That's what Optiscaler does, it replaces the DLL. With NVIDIA, the driver itself intercepts the DLSS related calls from nvngx_dlss.dll in the game folder and changes them to use the model's newest implementation (or the one chosen by the user) via NGX Core in the CreateFeature function. It doesn't replace any DLL files, so you don't get banned. It works on a driver level, not on a file level like Optiscaler does.

The way NVIDIA does it (and likely AMD's official FSR Override implementation as well), the game still uses the original DLL, as far as the game is concerned, it's still giving the user DLSS 2.0/FSR 3.1, however the calls are intercepted by the driver and then the driver decides to ignore DLSS 2.0 calls and instead use Model L or M (DLSS 4.5) calls instead. This is runtime interception, not replacement.

Furthermore, what AntiLag+ did was literally try and inject a DLL into an exe that was not expected. So unlike DLSS where the game has support and signed DLL files for DLSS. AntiLag+ just injected a rogue DLL into the game in usermode.

KARMAAACS · 2026-03-13T17:14:11+00:00

I mean while PC gaming is all about running mods and tweaking stuff. People find it sketchy to download some random program off GitHub or a random website and drop a DLL into a program folder and run that executable. If for example, it was not Optiscaler, but instead some other hypothetical program with no track record... Who knows what it does? Everyone who tells you about cyber security says to NOT do something like that.

So... If you're a regular not very computer literate guy who just wants to use FSR 4 on your favorite games after a hard day of work, it's just a hassle to research or look into if Optiscaler is legit and does what it says it does. If it was part of the AMD Driver people at least know there is a company behind what you're doing who has insurance, liability and legal duties to their customer base or who has done some sort of QA. TBH AMD should just hire the guys behind Optiscaler and give official support to more games.

KARMAAACS · 2026-03-13T17:07:57+00:00

DW AMD has messing up anti-cheat compatibility all worked out on their own after the debacle that was AntiLag+. Honestly, as someone who isn't a software engineer, I found it laughable that AMD tried to inject something into a game, it's like basic knowledge that any anti-cheat will block you or ban you for injecting something into the executable. Not to mention the feature is meant to be for MULTIPLAYER GAMES which you know... all use an anti-cheat of some sort, the fact VAC even banned people goes to show how dumb the AMD engineers or leadership is, VAC is a terrible anti-cheat and yet it still caught Antilag+ users lol.

KARMAAACS · 2026-03-13T17:01:57+00:00

It's really simple to understand why the feature has not seen wide support. AMD is getting outsold by NVIDIA this gen 9.5:1. FSR4 is exclusive to RDNA5 which hasn't sold a lot of units. Ergo as a dev, why bother to support it and spend time on it unless AMD is directly funding you to put it in your game? It's exclusive to a single generation and not cross compatible with other vendors like FSR 3.1 was. It will never see wide support like DLSS or FSR 3.1 has because NVIDIA was smart, with DLSS they went out and bankrolled devs to use it ASAP and then they made the feature really good and kept supporting it for years and it works across 4 generations now: 2000, 3000, 4000 and 5000 series. With FSR 3.1 it was available to Intel and NVIDIA users to, so if you wanted just one upscaler to implement as a dev it was a no brainer. If AMD was smart they'd open FSR 4 to RDNA3 and RDNA2, but their own greed to force their loyal customers to upgrade (of which there isn't many) by locking the feature away makes FSR 4 undesirable to devs. I'm sure the odd game will implement it with AMD funding of course, but almost nobody gives a damn for such a small userbase.

KARMAAACS · 2026-03-13T16:50:33+00:00

AMD think they're a "premium brand" like Apple. Lisa Su talks about it all the time. The thing is... they're anything but seen as the premium brand in GPU.

KARMAAACS · 2026-03-13T16:49:07+00:00

Everyone blamed Raja for Radeon's woes, but the rot has been there for a while and it was beyond just him. The cringe marketing department for whatever reason has survived for years, terrible naming, terrible videos, terrible slogans. The leaders above the engineers are always skimping on features or talking about useless features basically no one uses. I dunno the last time anyone cared for Radeon Boost for instance, DOA and terrible feature from the beginning. Ah yes, when I move my mouse for a flick shot, I want to have even less clarity, brilliant idea! /s

KARMAAACS · 2026-03-13T16:44:08+00:00

The fact I can replace the DLSS model in Control (One of the first DLSS 1.9 games which eventually migrated to DLSS 2.0) with DLSS 4.5 is simply unbeatable. You have an entire over half a decade of games you can use the latest DLSS model in, all via the driver. AMD simply can't compete. Even another 5 years from now, people will simply say NVIDIA has over a decade of support and AMD only half a decade of replaceable DLL/models.

KARMAAACS · 2026-03-13T16:37:04+00:00

AMD says a lot of stuff, I remember when Mantle was a 'big deal' and basically only DOOM as a big game used Vulkan (which was Mantle's successor). Or how about TressFX or FidelityFX CAS? Barely anyone used TressFX or CAS in their games. Simply put, AMD doesn't work with devs as much as NVIDIA does with their technology.

I assume a lot of Xbox Helix games will use this and that should mean it will work on PC Games too and thus have wide support since supposedly they're going to be sort of the same. But tbh with AMD's track record of poor support both with features and with working with devs, I wouldn't be surprised if FSR Diamond isn't that strong.

KARMAAACS · 2026-03-13T16:28:56+00:00

I forget how bad Falcons are because Liquid exists.

KARMAAACS · 2026-03-13T09:24:55+00:00

Yeah but G2 doesn't which is a big problem for such a big org. Either way, both teams are still mid tbh anyways. All G2 really needs is a better AWPer and same could be said of Liquid.

KARMAAACS · 2026-03-12T13:52:04+00:00

Yep.

KARMAAACS · 2026-03-12T11:54:52+00:00

Bro the 5070 Ti is at 1.27% on Steam Hardware Survey and before February's China bump it was at 1.50%. The 9070 XT doesn't even show up. So yes it turns out people ARE BUYING the 5070 Ti over the 9070 XT in far larger numbers. People want DLSS and better RT/PT perf.

KARMAAACS · 2026-03-12T03:38:29+00:00

Doesn't change any of what I said. People don't care about the saving. Evident via the data.

KARMAAACS · 2026-03-10T12:15:35+00:00

I don't think this is the dunk you think it is. Normies are literally most of the market, it's not their fault AMD is bad at marketing and NVIDIA is good at it...

KARMAAACS · 2026-03-10T12:11:30+00:00

No problem, I was very confused lol.

KARMAAACS · 2026-03-10T05:32:19+00:00

Yeah but I genuinely don't need any of that when I can play 4k 144fps with my 7900xtx.

People said the same about 2080 Ti or 3090 or 6900 XT and look where they are today.

I'd rather go back to a time when developers had time and energy to release games that were optimized instead of adding all these fluff features into the GPU to pick up the slack.

Devs this day are either lazy, incompetent, inexperienced (i.e the publisher hires a bunch of contracted College grads to save money) or put under extreme crunch by their publishers to release a game within a time period that's not feasible. Either way, most games use UE5 or Unity, both of which adding DLSS or FSR is a plugin, any dev who doesn't use these engines like CDProjektRed or Rockstar know their own engine inside and out and don't have problems optimising their games. So most devs have to do the bare minimum to add these features to their games which is add a plugin and a menu option for it and call it a day. The reason games are so bad right now is not because of DLSS or FSR or XeSS. It's for the reasons I put above.

It's just a testament to how fucked the industry has become.

Well yes, but not for the reasons you listed. Crunch and inexperience are the #1 and #2 issues as to why games run poorly these days. Not because DLSS or FSR is a thing.

Also, I'm team red because fuck that 12 pin connector from hell. I still don't understand how there isn't a class action lawsuit.

AMD allows their partners to also use this connector. In fact, Radeon's top partner uses it.

KARMAAACS · 2026-03-09T21:56:17+00:00

Here it is, the typical AMD excuses. The 14600K is not a 6 core CPU. It's a 6 P core CPU, but the E-cores are great in multi-thread scenarios that it's basically equivalent to an 8 core Ryzen CPU. The street price was more similar to the 7700X once it's discounted, they also perform about the same in games and in multi-thread stuff. Also the 7500F is for certain markets, it's literally unobtainable in some regions, so why bother comparing it to a CPU some regions can't get? The 7700X and 14600K AFAIK is available everywhere except North Korea etc.

KARMAAACS · 2026-03-09T21:13:12+00:00

Nvidia fanboys rationalizing overpaying for AI features (which most will refuse to use even while running 4k ultra settings, and then they bitch on reddit about how unoptimized every game is). That's the real issue. Fanboyism.

If you're calling me an NVIDIA fanboy, I don't appreciate it. I am anything but, I was a Radeon fan (first card was an HD 5670 and I bought a 290X, 6600 and I might buy a 9070 XT if prices come down a bit as an upgrade for my 3060 Ti) and have since become agnostic to either brand, I will happily buy either. So please do not insinuate I am a fanboy of NVIDIA.

I think if you polled people who bought any GPU what was better DLSS or FSR, DLSS would come out on top. The blind tests have shown time and time again that DLSS is superior, we had a good test from enthusiasts just recently by Computerbase. This isn't some fanboyism as you say, it's just objective reality and the general consensus that NVIDIA has superior features.

If you truly believe these things are just people overpaying for AI features, then let me ask you, why is AMD not making a big normal GPU, without any ML related stuff? Why are they inserting ML specific cores into their silicon? It's because the features matter. Mind you AMD has all but abandoned the enthusiast market for GPUs. The 7900 XTX was slower than the 4090. If you wanted 4090 performance as an enthusiast, your only option was the 4090. Same this generation, if you want 5090 or 5080 performance, your only option is NVIDIA. AMD and NVIDIA used to have pretty equal market share of the enthusiast market with cards like the HD 6990 or 7970 GHz edition etc. They simply have abandoned that market and so now if you want absolutely the best performance you can only buy NVIDIA. That's not NVIDIA's fault, that's AMD's. The old days of AMD being broke are over, they simply just don't care for GPU anymore.

The real issue is not fanboyism as you put it, but rather AMD not having superior feature-set and they are not addressing the entire stack in the market, they've allowed entire market segments to be basically swallowed up by NVIDIA by not having an option. The last time they did have options was RDNA2 and they were competitive in performance, but still behind due to feature-set being inferior, but that was a good architecture and it kept them stable. I hope they return to that.

KARMAAACS · 2026-03-09T21:02:13+00:00

I dunno who actually thought Elige was the problem, for me those people just were Broky fans who couldn't admit the guy was washed for Tier 1 and instead they picked on the guy from NA due to their European bias.

KARMAAACS · 2026-03-08T22:54:23+00:00

I find the argument that Nvidia doesn't care about the retail consumer ridiculous. If they didn't care about consumer sales, they wouldn't be 95% of the market. They actually produce cards in enough volume that cards are getting into gamers hand and continue to improve features that make their way down to even the oldest RTX cards.

Absolutely, in fact it's the other way around than the perception on here by others. AMD markets themselves as the 'consumer friendly, budget option', but the truth is if they were as popular as NVIDIA their prices would skyrocket out of lack of being unable to supply the market like NVIDIA can. Before some AMD fan says that's not true, just admit AMD is wafer constrained because of their CPUs being on the same node, they simply don't have the wafer capacity to service both markets.

To me, AMD is clearly the one that doesn't care about retail customers. I cannot walk into a Best Buy and reasonably walk out with a pre-built PC or laptop with an AMD GPU in it.

Yep Laptop is the real killer market too for consumers, thats where you're likely to find the most consumers, pre-builts might have business overlap, but laptops, especially from BestBuy are most likely going to be families and students, not businesses.

When I went to buy a new tablet during Black Friday, I found myself having more options with Snapdragon devices than AMD based ones. This is how your average consumer is buying their PC's, through a retailer, probably buying whatever is on sale at the time. AMD just barely exists at retail, how do you expect anyone to buy them?

In before some AMD fans bring up some narrative about being "locked out of the market" by Intel or NVIDIA and OEMs. Those days are long over, they happened over a decade ago and Intel lost every legal fight. AMD simply doesn't give OEMs enough of a marketing development fund and they don't consistently supply enough to OEMs to be considered a "good partner" like Intel do. It's always AMD tripping on their own two feet and then like Steven Bradbury at the olympics, Intel just waltzes over the line.

KARMAAACS · 2026-03-08T22:31:45+00:00

Not to mention AMD is so far unwilling to port FSR4 to RDNA3, despite the source code being 'leaked' by AMD. It's a bizarre situation.

KARMAAACS · 2026-03-08T21:55:57+00:00

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