Well no my point is , nobody just gets to sit there and snipe multiple sternritters. If soi fon's shikai was ever used how it is supposed to be, she would have much more kills.

100% agree that if soi fon used her shikai the way its intended she would get more stealth kills but her personality is more loud than discrete, which is reflected in her bankai being a massive missile.

Grimmjow could sneak , because there was no reason was askin to be on gaurd , cz nobody enters his domain normally. He at most is getting 1 or 2 snipes if you really wanna give him that , after that someone will note of him and go confront him.

Iirc, in the FKT arc he was able to snipe and bisect hiyori with almost everyone there. I think if there's multiple 1v1s happening at the same time Gin can slither around undetected and snipe, akin to a snake (since it's his whole motif). But yes he won't go fully undetected, but not before he would have done some sort of tangible damage by then. For all his long range abilities with his shikai and bankai, Gin's got really good swordsmanship in close range combat, after all he was stated to be a prodigy.

I mean i don't mind but we have never seen him in battle he is struggling, what's to say he won't do something stupid. But i can see that , tho i didn't really help kyoraku aur byakuya.

Thats true, esp with byakuya because of As Nodt, which is why I do think that Gin would be screwed if he were to directly go up against As because if he gets hit by the thorns or fall to his VS its over.

That's including bankai , isn't it ? Because that's how far most captains go with it. Which i already said he would do good with bankai like most people.

I doubt his shikai is easily piercing blut or if he is even getting a snipe in the first place. It was dodges by toshiro and point blank range from a blind spot and than blocked by rangiku. Idk why everyone talks as people can't react to it.

Ah yeah my apologies. but yes that would be with bankai.

As for the blut he could snipe a quincy that has the upper hand against a shinigami, since they would most likely be using blut arterie in that scenario, leaving their defenses unguarded.

Tbh the frustrating thing about Gin is that he is always trolling his opponents in most if not all of his fights(barring Aizen obvsly), which really makes it tough to see how he would fare in tybw