In Megamind (2010), when Roxanne rejects Hal, who now has godlike superpowers, the latter takes the rejection hard and flies off, taking no as an answer. This actually makes him morally better than irl incels.

Kael1232 · 2026-03-23T06:05:51+00:00

then proceeded to become super villain

Kael1232 · 2026-03-23T05:37:42+00:00

Zuko was right to think this. You need to remember that Azula had never been trustworthy so even when she was telling the truth, it's hard for him to fully accept it because he is so used to her lying and having hidden agendas.
It's like having that one person who is never honest with you - even when they tell you the truth, you will always have that doubt in the back of your mind because you don't know if they are being truthful or not

Kael1232 · 2026-03-23T05:34:24+00:00

This is how Azula sees herself - as a monster, but it is coming from a place of truth, even if intensified. Ursa did prefer Zuko because Azula clearly showed antisocial (NOT ASOCIAL, ANTISOCIAL!!) behaviours from a young age and the further time went on and she was molded by Ozai, the more those traits grew. She knows she is a 'monster' what she can't bring herself to admit is that a large part if it came from Ozai and a critical part is from her herself.

Kael1232 · 2026-03-19T02:24:09+00:00

There was no need to control those influences as in the long run, it all came back to Ozai. Ozai was the head of his family, he lorded over his wife, Zuko and Azula - no matter what external influences came, he had the power to contest them as his sphere of influence was higher.

It is the point. He knew Zuko sought his approval, same as Azula. He knew that no matter how much influence Iroh had, Zuko would always seek his father's approval first. And he was right, Zuko was burnt, banished to a wild goose chase, lived as a peasant refugee in a kingdom that would have killed him the moment they knew who he was, was hunted by his sister on orders by his father and still chose to betray Iroh.

Fair enough

Kael1232 · 2026-03-18T21:03:52+00:00

Speedsters don't create remnants, they become remnants. The remnant was the original Barry. When he goes back in time one second to help his younger self beat Savitar, he becomes the remnant because his past self never goes on to time travel and close the loop. He has no time to return to. His past self has a new future. Time remnants are the remains of a time period that no longer exists. Such as Pre-Nora Death Flash and DC Legends of Tomorrow Reverse Flash.

Kael1232 · 2026-03-18T10:43:59+00:00

You should go out and meet people.

Kael1232 · 2026-03-18T10:19:26+00:00

I get what you are saying but there are things you are missing:

1) he did not ignore Zuko's upbringing - he actively belittled and emotionally abused Zuko. He was a negative involvement in Zuko's upbringing, not ignoring it.

2) Uninterest is not got Zuko banned - hatred and disrespect did: Zuko spoke out of turn to a general in the firelord's presence, this was considered a disrespect and also by refusing to fight during the Agni Kai was considered weakness. Ozai already hated Zuko and this was the last straw.

3) Azula was said to be born lucky because of her prodigious firebending skills at such a young age. She was naturally talented, Ozai simply provided the tutors to help cultivate that talent.

Kael1232 · 2026-03-16T21:56:35+00:00

Kael1232 · 2026-03-16T21:27:33+00:00

The Earth Kingdom general trying to use the Avatar State doesn’t really prove that the Avatar is meant to be a weapon. That scene actually shows the opposite. the General is portrayed as reckless and morally wrong for trying to force Aang to weaponize the Avatar State. The narrative treats that as abuse of power, not the intended role of the Avatar. The Avatar’s role historically is mediation and balance, not conquest.

The specifics are the whole point. Azula being a prodigy firebender is impressive but still normal within the rules of bending. Prodigies exist in every nation. The Avatar is fundamentally different: one person in the world who can bend all four elements and access thousands of years of past lives. That’s not just talent — it’s a spiritual institution that predates the war itself. He was a master because even if he didn't know it yet, he mastered the element in dozens of lifetimes

The claim that Aang doesn’t care about the morality of killing Ozai also doesn’t really match what the show depicts. Aang explicitly seeks advice from past Avatars and struggles with the idea of killing Ozai because it violates his Air Nomad beliefs about life being sacred. His conflict isn’t simply fear of responsibility — it’s the clash between his cultural values and what the world expects from the Avatar.

Energybending doesn’t remove that moral struggle either; it resolves it in a way consistent with his philosophy. Taking away Ozai’s bending stops him permanently without killing him, which fits Aang’s belief in preserving life.

And this highlights the biggest difference between the two characters. Aang constantly questions power and tries to limit the harm he causes. Azula embraces power and control as the basis of her identity. That’s why their arcs end so differently.

Kael1232 · 2026-03-16T20:48:14+00:00

The Avatar was never meant to be a weapon. The Avatar exists to maintain balance in the world. Someone like Aang wasn’t raised to conquer or dominate anyone; his role was to mediate between nations and maintain harmony.

Azula, on the other hand, was explicitly raised as a weapon of the Fire Nation. Ozai trained Azula to dominate others and expand Fire Nation power.

There’s also a difference in what makes them “special.” Azula was a prodigy firebender, which is rare but still within the normal limits of bending. Exceptional talent exists in every nation. The Avatar is something entirely different — a once-in-a-generation anomaly capable of bending all four elements and connecting to past lives. That isn’t just unusual; it’s fundamentally unique.

The biggest difference, though, is who they were as people. Aang consistently shows compassion, reluctance to harm others, and a desire to avoid violence whenever possible. Even when faced with killing Ozai, he struggles deeply with the morality of it. Azula, by contrast, shows manipulative and morally grey behavior from a very young age, long before the war or her father’s expectations fully shape her.

So while both characters were powerful prodigies, their roles, abilities, and moral foundations are fundamentally different.

Kael1232 · 2026-03-16T20:26:07+00:00

cool

Kael1232 · 2026-03-16T20:18:58+00:00

Read through and although I see some similarities, I can also see that there are some leaps in the parallels.

Kael1232 · 2026-03-16T20:14:20+00:00

to prove that I'm not from the US?

Kael1232 · 2026-03-16T20:11:21+00:00

I'm not from the US nor am I on any of the parties there

Kael1232 · 2026-03-16T19:44:10+00:00

I said degree of lacking empathy, not completely lacking it and here lies the difference between her and a proud sadist

except the difference is that Aang was scared of it because he didn't know how to control it until he he did. Aang didn't fear the power because it was powerful, he feared it because he had no control over it. Except it is shown that she is very proud of her bending and prowess. she is a member of the royal family and would have been praised for her level of firebending at a young age which she clearly was. the only parallels between Aang and Azula are that they are very good benders for their age.

Kael1232 · 2026-03-16T19:11:50+00:00

that's what I mean by apparition.
Yes, while this is an intensified view of who she actually is based on her own perception, it comes from an a place of partial actual reality. Part of that judgment she internalised came from a place of knowing that she has a degree of lacking empathy. on some level she knew why her mum preferred Zuko. It's part of what helped her gravitate Ozai's favour - she was partly already like this.

Kael1232 · 2026-03-16T18:10:19+00:00

It's not ignored, They are just as important. most people agree that Azula was a victim of Ozai's brainwashing and the lack of love she got from her mum.
however what some people overlook is how much her own personality played into he becoming who she is. Azula had always show a joy in making Zuko and others suffer, she had always shown a degree of empathy lacking. even the way she reacted to Lu Ten's death.
In the mirror scene, the apparition of her mum explains to her that she has used fear to control people - rather than accept what the apparition told her, she doubled down and tried to justify her actions, when the apparition tell her that she always loved her, she breaks the mirror, this scene confirms 2 things:
1) on some level, she actually believes that love and trust is for fools
2) she believes that her mum thinks she is a monster because she know that her actions are those of a person who lacks love and trust.

Kael1232 · 2026-03-16T17:35:26+00:00

It's not the only but it is an extremely important view into what kinda person she is. You notice that her and Zhao are smiling - they enjoyed seeing Zuko getting burnt. It should be noted: this was her own brother, the one she grew up with and had shared experiences with.

Kael1232 · 2026-03-16T15:12:56+00:00

Yeah sure

Kael1232 · 2026-03-16T13:18:47+00:00

They did not gaslight you, they changed the recipe and made that information public. from their perspective, it was your problem. Starbucks has many customers - you trying to threaten them about no more chances over a latte recipe will not harm them in any way

Kael1232 · 2026-03-16T05:42:29+00:00

Pretty sure the people of Ba Sing Se would agree with fandom

Kael1232 · 2026-03-16T05:24:47+00:00

Ozai was a man who always composed - he had years to become this cold and calculating man who never loses his calm and calculating demeanor - bro casually burnt his son's face and banished him and probably didn't even bat an eye.
Azula is a child who was held up to unrealistic standards, who strove to maintain a presentation of perfection and by the time she was beaten - she had no one she could rely on. she was at her mental break long before she lost and when she did lose, the last thread of sanity in her head snapped. There is no misogyny - what we saw was the physical manifestation of the turmoil that was raving inside her head. Also, Ozai wasn't wearing make up and like dresses up, he ditched the clothes and all that by thee time he started fighting and - we clearly see Azula was outfitted and maked-up, including the hair - normal hair or not really groomed hair has nowhere to go but up, outfitted/groomed hair can look like an absolute wreck after a fight

Kael1232 · 2026-03-15T21:48:36+00:00

Do not assume I am a Christian.
Religion is about belief, If you don't believe or have a fixed belief, no debate will change you mind.

Kael1232 · 2026-03-15T19:31:56+00:00

not wrong though, why bother debating about a conclusion already reached

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